Sounds like curiosity and an interest in where the journey will take them.
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I believe it's more so the preference to see items and the like. Willing to travel to them, and even take what would have been the delivery fee (eg. R180 @ KK) and give it to the person as a tip/thank-you instead.
Friend does apologize if it was inappropriate posting here, and only did so after reading the thread through, most notably the various trip reports and other postings of people who have requested info (a couple of which who returned reporting success).
Nah it's not inappropriate.
But... tell the friend to register and post here himself.
I mean, maybe a kind soul on this forum will volunteer. But it will be easier for people to trust this friend of yours if he posts here.
One other benefit that he may get from someone that lives in KZN that he can trust, is knowledge about how to safely use psychedelics. It is worth knowing about.
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1. Recreational use.
2. Further recreational usage and mind exploration before I get too over the hill (old). But 'why now?' is the better question. Answer: It seems time, and has been on the list for so long. In addition, it's been an up and down year, and although the worst is over and things are getting back on track mostly due to sheer willpower, it would be nice to perhaps gain a slightly different perspective on my thoughts, and maybe see the things on my mind in a different light, not expecting any miracle break through solutions to all my problems to magically reveal themselves. Perhaps a bit of a nostalgia trip and reflection of my life thus far, and a look at who/where I am now. Who knows what to expect.
Assuming success in finding what is sought. Will go into it with no expectations, but just a positive mindset and a prepared environment.
Very interesting and informative, thanks for sharing. I did check with the KZN Salvia seller, and can confirm it's just the plants available, no extract/s. Unfortunately not able to grow, nor have the time for it to be done for vacation break. But good to knowYour journey sound very relatable so I'll bite. First off I'm cursed with bad genes or something but getting high or tripping has always been a mission, as such I have spent a small fortune over the years on cannabis and mushrooms over the years and your mileage may vary. I have tried a certain online vendor's merchandise without success but perhaps you'll have a better experience but be warned it's going to be expensive but worth it. Unfortunately if you're like me after your first good trip you're going to realize you are going to need a crap load of shrooms because you just want to share how beautiful the experience is with everyone and the only way to achieve that is by growing your own. I've been doing varying doses and strains almost biweekly now for the last couple of months but come harvest time I would hopefully have enough to go real deep and face some issues over December.
As for the other items on your list Salvia actually grows quite easily in KZN and there is a grower selling plants from that area. As for Acid/LSD/DMT been on my bucket list since forever but impossible to get so far. KZN also has a magic mushroom growing in the wild so that might be another option, if you check on Shroomery on very old posts they list areas where it grows, might be worth it to go forage for some. Hope you come right.
Interesting about the shrooms, maybe I should make time to go foraging (only joking) 
Of course, that's why they call it the devil's lettuce
Your journey sound very relatable so I'll bite. First off I'm cursed with bad genes or something but getting high or tripping has always been a mission, as such I have spent a small fortune over the years on cannabis and mushrooms over the years and your mileage may vary. I have tried a certain online vendor's merchandise without success but perhaps you'll have a better experience but be warned it's going to be expensive but worth it. Unfortunately if you're like me after your first good trip you're going to realize you are going to need a crap load of shrooms because you just want to share how beautiful the experience is with everyone and the only way to achieve that is by growing your own. I've been doing varying doses and strains almost biweekly now for the last couple of months but come harvest time I would hopefully have enough to go real deep and face some issues over December.
As for the other items on your list Salvia actually grows quite easily in KZN and there is a grower selling plants from that area. As for Acid/LSD/DMT been on my bucket list since forever but impossible to get so far. KZN also has a magic mushroom growing in the wild so that might be another option, if you check on Shroomery on very old posts they list areas where it grows, might be worth it to go forage for some. Hope you come right.
How much do you need for a decent trip? Or, what does 2g of cubes do to you?
Very interesting. I've been wondering if I'm resistant to shrooms. I tripped on 2g with a friend in Joburg, and while I tripped, and I did see visuals, I didn't see as much as my friends did. I've always wondered about that.
I've always wanted to have a next level shroom experience. Maybe with my next grow, I'll be able to. I found with the 2g that I tripped on in Joburg (they were Texans I think, not that it matters), I went into dreamland. It was like I was sleeping.
Last year, I grew shrooms, and I took a syrian rue shrooms followed by 5-6g of shrooms. Now, I don't think these were as strong as the 2g I took earlier, so don't read too much into that. 4g of these same shrooms was less potent than the 2g I had in Joburg. So, whatever I did, I didn't do it right. Anyway, with 5-6g of weak shrooms backed up by syrian rue, I saw the most visuals that I ever have. But I still didn't have what I'd call a next level experience.
I think I've got my growing technique dialled in, so hopefully I'll end up with around 100g of dried shrooms. Even if they are weak, they will be enough for a few next level experiences.
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Always super interested to hear of people's experiences and journeys. I wouldn't say you are resistant if you could see visuals that one time, to me your problem is simply genetics of the plant. Most people don't seem to realize that in that one spore syringe there are a lot of potential genetics, you just need to grow it out and select the strongest and from that again the strongest etc. Eventually all your shrooms are going to be of even size and evenly potent which makes dosage a lot more accurate. You are correct that there isn't any difference between cubes, I feel the same but I find different species wildly varying and for instance on Blue Meanie is so much more intense for me than cubes.
As for dosage anything under 2 grams is a waste for me. From 2 to 3 grams I will sometimes see colours very bright, feel euphoria, just generally relax, on such a dose I just like sitting in the garden and do nothing. On Blue Meanies at 4 grams is intense, I can see patterns when I close my eyes, it feels like accessing hidden parts of your brain, I literally feel that I'm experiencing up to five experiences at the same time and everything is in sync. If I reach this stage I'm happy and for me the trip was a success. The next level which I have yet to fully experience is what most people experience on 5 grams sometimes called a hero's dose or ego death. I have only once reached this door, I opened it and it was beautiful unfortunately the next moment I was yanked out.
I've had some experiences outside of the above which don't fit it. My first experience experiencing anything was on 3 grams of Golden Teachers, very basic visuals but the first time my subconscious (multiple not single voice) spoke and basically said I took just too little and laughed at me and shut me out. On Blue Meanies I feel very narcissistic which is the only part I don't like but the intense experiences make it worthwhile. Very hard to explain.
I don't know anything about taking Syrian Rue, only that it's a MAOI.
Good luck on your journey.
Posting for a friend in KZN..
As a teenager I almost immediately, after the first few times experiencing alcohol and all it had to offer, decided to do a little research on substances to educate myself on their effects and consequences, but also to see what else was out there that may better suit me and my mind. Anyway.. I, like many others, found it pretty absurd that alcohol (with all the trouble it can bring with its abuse) is completely legal, yet cannabis is/was not. Soon after, I made it a mission and alone ventured around in an effort to find some bud (and not easily through a friend or something, as I guess I didn't hang in the right crowds being a well disciplined introverted strict-school-attending young lad). I eventually managed to source some flowers, and it was, and has been, well and good since then.
Now it is over a decade later, and I've entered my 30's. When looking back at the copious amounts of cannabis consumed, there are no regrets there, esp. considering that I always remained responsible and conservative with my use (not to say that I'm a light weight). But there is one potential regret..an itch that remains to be scratched.. and that is with psychedelics. I've always had this on the to-do list from day one, but due to the status and availability of such items, I have never ventured out to try and find them. I always thought that there'd be an occasion or opportunity where it would happen, but again since I'm not very out-going, that scenario has never occurred, and still to this day I've never come across something like that, be it salvia, shrooms, acid or other.
I'm aware that there are online facilities, but looking at the feasibility, it doesn't excite me much, factoring in the delivery fees as well. And it seems an expensive endeavor just to have one 'adventure'. I would prefer to give this a thorough testing, and expect that I would like to experience this for more than a single occasion, assuming it can be reasonably afforded. Also I'm not sure how tolerant I am, and feel it wouldn't be ideal to end up purchasing too little for a thorough experience, but purchasing more adds up fast.. so a small dilemma. Hence my message here to reach out..
And before your suggest it, yes I would love to grow but am not really able or keen to go that route.
The TL;DR is that I'm looking to socialize and make a friend or two in KZN, and would be happily willing to make that 'friendship' worthwhile from my end.Thanks for reading, Cheers
The best friend you will have is the internet. Do some digging around and you might have some luck
.There are several psychedelics that are much more accessible than you might think. Lots of people grow plants not knowing they contain schedule 1 drugs. Trichocereus, morning glories, some acacias...
Please be careful combining rue and shrooms. It may take you much further than you intended. I'd also be careful upping my dose a lot due to the belief of a natural tolerance. While it is possible that it is a natural tolerance, there are lots of things that could affect the strength of a trip. It may be that the shrooms that you received were just lower in psilocybin, perhaps you ate them on a full stomach, or the specific food you ate created a diminishing effect. Do you take any medication?
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Good pointThe best friend you will have is the internet. Do some digging around and you might have some luck
There are several psychedelics that are much more accessible than you might think. Lots of people grow plants not knowing they contain schedule 1 drugs. Trichocereus, morning glories, some acacias...
What are you imagining such an experience to be like? I've sometimes found the most profound personal experiences to be on the lower end (0.5-2g) of the dose range in which there's maybe some peripheral visual distortions but the intensity arises from my still being lucid enough to grok the dust being swept from my mind and its usually hidden places. At those lower doses I become more of a participant in the experience; or maybe a more receptive observer to what's been shown. The experience retains it's personal quality with insights that linger long after the trip has ended. These for me are nice at home.
Higher doses where reality starts bending I need to be in nature. Because here the trip is not so much about personal insights, but rather of a fierce and direct contact with reality that's all about the direct experience. I need to be in contact with that part of reality that allows the experience to flow, and nature does this for me. Being at home amongst discreet objects (the couch is here, the computer is there, what do I want to listen to?) feels like it constantly interrupts the experience.
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also Lowered my doses alot lately. One of the best things Ive done for the high is to stop drinking. If you haven't drank that day or for a few days I find the trip is far more pleasant. Also eating about an hour before and not again until its over helps. If you drink something like orange juice or cranberry it seems to speed it up a bit in my experience as well. Quicker in and out.
I take a gram and have an energy drink sometimes and it fits me just right, have a good peaceful ride and feel great afterwards.
The perfect experience definitely takes practice, its not just a dose. gotta find what works for you and put yourself in the place to have the best trip possible.
Hippy FLip weeeeee
I take a gram and have an energy drink sometimes and it fits me just right, have a good peaceful ride and feel great afterwards.
The perfect experience definitely takes practice, its not just a dose. gotta find what works for you and put yourself in the place to have the best trip possible.
Hippy FLip weeeeee
Happy to help if you're in Dirtbin
Tell your friend to join the forum. There are a few of us in KZN.
Thanks!
What are blue meanies? I have heard some people call Pan Cyans Blue meanies? I am growing pan cyans - apparently they can be twice as strong as Cubes. Some people say that, in addition to being stronger, they deliver the best trips, because they are so clear.
Yes, I think it is genetics, because I don't isolate the strongest clones. I also think for a while it was how I dried them. I dried them in my oven with the setting on low, but I think even that low heat was enough to destroy some of the psilocybin. So now I dry them on a rack with a fan but no oven. When they get dry enough, I put them into a sealed container with a dessicant.
Syrian rue is terrible stuff and I won't use it anymore. It makes me incredibly sick. What I use instead is an extract of B Caapi, the stuff they use in ayahuasca. It is fully legal so I bought it from eBay. I've been using it with microdosing - makes the microdose just a little stronger and longer lasting.
No, I don't take any medication. Whenever I grow a new batch of shrooms, I do what I call a calibration dose, to give me an idea of how potent it is. This is a safe dose, 2g to 2.5g, to give me an idea what to expect. None of my calibration doses have ever felt like the 2g that I had from a dealer in Joburg! So I think I suck at growing them, but its fun anyway.
As I said in a post above, I don't use syrian rue anymore - it is just too toxic. B caapi is much more tolerable. But yes I will be careful in mixing high doses of shrooms with b caapi extract.
Yes, I've had some profound experiences in the lower range too. But I want to have a full on trip where my perception of reality is entirely affected. Also, ego death.
A lot of people have reported very positive experiences from high doses - mystical experiences and such. I want to have one, at least once.
Do you grow syrian rue or b. caapi yourself? Or is there a local vendor? Been looking for cuttings/seeds (willing to trade if anyone has!).
If you've got experience with rue/b. caapi then you know about DMT. Vaporizing would be an effective way to have a breakthrough experience and may be "less intense", considering the short duration, than a long shroom breakthrough.
Edit: I see you ordered the b. caapi from ebay
I have thought about making my own ayahuasca. The problem is that while substances that contain MAOIs can be readily sold in the UK, substances that contain DMT are more restricted. There are reports of the police going after people for buying shredded bark containing DMT, on the grounds that this is "prepared".
So, I'll buy b caapi extract from eBay, but I won't buy anything that contains DMT. Maybe except a live plant lol! Any leaves or bark is just too risky. I don't want the police asking the vendor for a list of clients and then showing up at my door.
I have heard that people have had good mystical experiences combining b caapi and shrooms, so that is probably what I'll do next. Well, at some point in the future. I need to get the right dosage of course! Which means I need to know how potent my shrooms are.
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You are correct they are Pan Cyans, you also get a fake Cubensis strain called Blue Meanie. Psilocube azurescens is another one that gave me a total different experience. On the drying front I haven't seen such intense heat used, either get a cheap food dehydrator or use an empty shoebox and brown paper.
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I've generally found cannabis helps a lot to achieve lift-off. I don't generally smoke at the lower doses - kinda nice having a clear head for the experience. My two really out there trips were shrooms + weed.