The Silver Surfer Thread (iBurst 2Mbps Modem)

r00igev@@r said:
Question: What is the difference in browsing the web or reading your email at 128 kb/s or 10 Mb/s?
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So iBurst does not its users to have full benifit of the services available legally on the internet. What's the difference in watching YouTube in HD or any other streaming service at 128kb/s or 10Mb/s

EDIT: I take it iBurst is not interested or looking at increasing their speed in the near future?
 
signates said:
So iBurst does not its users to have full benifit of the services available legally on the internet. What's the difference in watching YouTube in HD or any other streaming service at 128kb/s or 10Mb/s

EDIT: I take it iBurst is not interested or looking at increasing their speed in the near future?
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What are you on about with services available legally on the internet? Yes, there is a difference in watching Youtube HD, but I was referring to communications via email and browsing applications like Internet Banking.

iBurst is a wireless technology that use a spectrum allocation nationally of 5Mhz. Unless ICASA allocates more spectrum it is a physical impossiblity. You should be asking, is ICASA looking at increasing the speed in the near future?
 
r00igev@@r said:
What are you on about with services available legally on the internet? Yes, there is a difference in watching Youtube HD, but I was referring to communications via email and browsing applications like Internet Banking.

iBurst is a wireless technology that use a spectrum allocation nationally of 5Mhz. Unless ICASA allocates more spectrum it is a physical impossiblity. You should be asking, is ICASA looking at increasing the speed in the near future?
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So iBurst's target market is people who wish to browse the internet and check email. Its not for you if you have a massive steam download or you want to watch YouTube. Tough luck if you cant get ADSL as Telkom refuses to install.

Like I siad in a previouse post, cant wait for my contract to end and moving to B360 and getting uncapped 4Mbps wimax for R999.00 pm. I havnt had a problem with my iBurst connection but if the attitude regarding a speed upgrade question is anything to go by, then my decision has been made with regards to iBurst and will not even consider keeping it as backup but will use 3g as a backup to B360.
 
signates said:
So iBurst's target market is people who wish to browse the internet and check email. Its not for you if you have a massive steam download or you want to watch YouTube. Tough luck if you cant get ADSL as Telkom refuses to install.

Like I siad in a previouse post, cant wait for my contract to end and moving to B360 and getting uncapped 4Mbps wimax for R999.00 pm. I havnt had a problem with my iBurst connection but if the attitude regarding a speed upgrade question is anything to go by, then my decision has been made with regards to iBurst and will not even consider keeping it as backup but will use 3g as a backup to B360.
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As soon as ICASA provides spectrum allocation you can expect speeds of anything up to 10 Mb/s. There is no guarantee, however, about this allocation. I am merely pointing out that there are requirements out there for low speed applications (e.g. ATMs use only 64 kb/s!)

BTW: These YouTube videos play fine on iBurst:
Hitler is throttled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ436ipdjB0
Winston the pigeon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3xTHtgmTs
Eating Winston: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckovM-oLFpw
Free Internet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqnw0bTD64E
Loyal monkey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44CnkVxXdKA

and is it not a good idea to use the internet for browsing and checking email?
 
r00igev@@r said:
I am merely pointing out that there are requirements out there for low speed applications (e.g. ATMs use only 64 kb/s!)
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Question is, until when? I remember that a 56K modem was more than enough (and laughed at the 33K modem users)... then ISDN 128K was more than enough... and 1M was blistering and incredible (If I remember correctly, iBurst was the first to offer 1M speeds to consumers in south africa).

Speeds increase at rate of +50% per year on a global trend, meaning that in 5 years time we can expect cellphones to be rolling out speeds close to 100Mbps and Telkom Land lines close too 50Mbps (or not, knowing telkom)
Essentially, in 3 to 4 years time, 1M line will be the same as suggesting someone go and use a 56K modem today. Sure, 128K and 64K is "usable for all internet needs" NOW, but in 3 years time?

Not that I'm complaining about the speeds, I'm quite happy with my 0.97M iburst :P But in 3 years time, iBurst might struggle to explain to new and old customers how 1M is what you should get when there is close to 50M being offered for just a little extra R.
 
r00igev@@r said:
While we are on a roll, how much speed is required to maintain a VoIP connection?
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At least 64kbps up and 64kbps down, good national/international latency. Otherwise voice will be broken.
 
r00igev@@r said:
and is it not a good idea to use the internet for browsing and checking email?
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Its not the only reason to use the internet and every one knows that its not the most bandwidth intensive. The internet is much, much, much more than browsing and checking mail.
 
eltherza said:
Question is, until when? I remember that a 56K modem was more than enough (and laughed at the 33K modem users)... then ISDN 128K was more than enough... and 1M was blistering and incredible (If I remember correctly, iBurst was the first to offer 1M speeds to consumers in south africa).

Speeds increase at rate of +50% per year on a global trend, meaning that in 5 years time we can expect cellphones to be rolling out speeds close to 100Mbps and Telkom Land lines close too 50Mbps (or not, knowing telkom)
Essentially, in 3 to 4 years time, 1M line will be the same as suggesting someone go and use a 56K modem today. Sure, 128K and 64K is "usable for all internet needs" NOW, but in 3 years time?

Not that I'm complaining about the speeds, I'm quite happy with my 0.97M iburst :P But in 3 years time, iBurst might struggle to explain to new and old customers how 1M is what you should get when there is close to 50M being offered for just a little extra R.
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Yes, but the law of physics cannot be broken. 1 Mb/s over 5 Mhz is brilliant. However, ICASA isn't allocating anymore spectrum and spectrum is not an infinite resource!
 
r00igev@@r said:
Yes, but the law of physics cannot be broken. 1 Mb/s over 5 Mhz is brilliant. However, ICASA isn't allocating anymore spectrum and spectrum is not an infinite resource!
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Which is a very concerning thing long term for iBurst. Is it that ICASA can't allocate because there is not available, or is it that they wont allocate?
 
Hi Ronald,

Are you saying it is not possible to use a 2MB modem on iburst, or you do have enough bandwidth to allow "all" iburst users to run 2MB modems on iburst ?

Warren
 
What's about WiMAX then? I heard that it has fixed line quality...
 
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