The Syrian Conflict Thread

Unhappy438 said:
Believe whatever you want, you're going to anyway. So there is little point, why even respond to any news articles i post.
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That doesn't explain why you responded as if I slighted you, Unhappy. That is what I am trying to get to the bottom of. So you can either explain where you're coming from or get on your high horse and ride off into the sunset, but if the latter then I think this dance is going to be repeated needlessly yet again in the near future.
 
Xarog said:
That doesn't explain why you responded as if I slighted you, Unhappy. That is what I am trying to get to the bottom of. So you can either explain where you're coming from or get on your high horse and ride off into the sunset, but if the latter then I think this dance is going to be repeated needlessly yet again in the near future.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. You're the one that replied to my question with questions, then got touchy when i did the same back. Perhaps you're the one who is on that horse? As i said though, i dont actually care, believe what you want. Cheers
 
Unhappy438 said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. You're the one that replied to my question with questions, then got touchy when i did the same back. Perhaps you're the one who is on that horse? As i said though, i dont actually care, believe what you want. Cheers
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This is what I'm talking about:
Xarog said:
You seem to be taking things amiss.
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I said it nice and boldly right at the start.

I do not know why you conflate questioning the legitimacy of something with outright rejection of that same thing as if it must be wrong. I'm not going to respond to your reaction when doing so would force me to take a position I do not actually hold. Nonetheless, I am trying to get to the bottom of what is causing it.

Is it clear now?
 
Unhappy438 said:
Assault on Palmyra

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Even Ban ki Moon was happy. Seems he liked the idea that the Syrian Government would now be able to protect the site.

Nations chief Ban Ki-moon today welcomed the removal of Islamic State jihadists from Syria's ancient Palmyra, calling for the site to be protected for future generations.

In a news conference in Jordan, Ban said he was "encouraged" that the UNESCO world heritage site is out of extremist hands and that the Syrian government "is now able to preserve and protect this human common cultural asset".


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
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How Russian special forces are shaping the fight in Syria

The troops that recently recaptured Palmyra, Syria, from the Islamic State included Syrian, Iranian and Hezbollah forces. And on Monday, Russian officials said there was another group that contributed to the victory: Russia’s elite special forces, also known as Spetsnaz.

Russian troops are nothing new to the Syrian ground war. Since their arrival in September, the Russians have used naval infantry to secure a key port in Tartus and the perimeter of an airfield in Latakia. But Russian special forces operating on the front — aside from a small number of artillery and tank units — have remained mostly out of the public eye.

With the seizure of Palmyra, though, that is no longer the case. Russian officials announced Monday that Palmyra was “liberated with participation of Spetsnaz and military advisers.” The Islamic State took Palmyra in May and shortly after partially destroyed a number of the city’s historic sites.

Russian special forces have come to the forefront of Russia’s Syria narrative because the battle for Palmyra plays directly into the anti-Islamic State rhetoric that Russia used as a pretense to initially intervene, said Chris Kozak, a research analyst at the Institute of the Study of War.
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When thinking about the mess that the USA left behind in Iraq I have to pay compliments to Russia for defeating in Syria the USA, UK, EU, Turkey's & Saudi Arabia
 
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Reuters are suspecting the Russian draw down isn't that much of a draw down.

Since Moscow began to scale back in Syria, Russia has sent two landing ships, which are typically used to transport troops and armor - the Caesar Kunikov and the Saratov - to the Mediterranean along with the Yauza, an auxiliary cargo vessel.

The Saratov looked loaded when it passed the strait on Thursday going south toward Syria. Its load line was visibly lower than on March 14 when it was photographed going the other way, toward Russia.

At the same time, two warships - the Alexander Otrakovsky and the Minsk - and the Dvinitsa-50, an auxiliary vessel, were photographed by Turkish bloggers passing the Bosphorus en route back to Russia.

At least two of the returning ships, the Alexander Otrakovsky and the Dvinitsa-50, looked unloaded on their way back.

Photographs show that the Otrakovsky, a large landing ship, sat higher in the water on its return to Russia compared to March 2 when it crossed the strait in the other direction. It was not clear if it carried troops or equipment.

The load line of the Dvinitsa-50 was also high above the water when it was photographed in the Bosphorus on March 20 on its way back to Russia.

It seems unlikely that Russian troops or equipment were on board any of the returning ships. None of them looked like they had heavy cargo onboard.

The Minsk has already headed back toward Syria. On Tuesday, it was photographed passing the Bosphorus. Its bow sat deep in the water; its cargo could not be discerned.
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Full article at:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-supplies-idUSKCN0WW0DJ
 
Dave123 said:
Reuters are suspecting the Russian draw down isn't that much of a draw down.
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They're probably right, however it doesn't matter, just like the time Russia entered the fray the announcement of the draw down and subsequent footage of it surprised everyone and has Russia controlling the narrative once again (well still).

Whatever their true intentions they've been executing this whole thing masterfully on all fronts, it's no mean feat to outmaneuver the mighty USA politically, militarily and on the propaganda front. I reckon whether you love them or hate them if you're being fair you'd acknowledge their current involvement in Syria has been well played.

(oh and I mean the proverbial "you" not you specifically)
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
I reckon whether you love them or hate them if you're being fair you'd acknowledge their current involvement in Syria has been well played.

(oh and I mean the proverbial "you" not you specifically)
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I wouldn't argue, the Russians are in Syria at the request of the recognised government (unlike the situation in Ukraine) and are acting within international law in Syria.
 
Russian Nuclear Ballistic Missile "Iskander" Spotted In Syria

According to the Russian military website military-informant.com an Iskander SS-26 Stone short-range ballistic missile complex which has a range of 400 km and is nuclear-capable, was spotted on March 27 near the Hmeymim airbase used by Russia for its airborne attacks.

The launch complex was subsequently spotted in the background of a Russian armed forces video clip published on March 27, and shown below
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-30/russian-nuclear-ballistic-missile-iskander-spotted-syria

http://military-informant.com/army/...ogo-raktenogo-kompleksa-iskander-v-sirii.html
 
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With ENG subtitles

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The peace deal with other factions sure seems to have given government forces a great opportunity to focus:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35957942
Syrian forces and their allies have retaken the central town of al-Qaryatain from so-called Islamic State (IS), dealing a further strategic blow to the militant group, state media say.
It comes days after IS was pushed out of the nearby ancient city of Palmyra.
IS captured al-Qaryatain in August, and abducted hundreds of residents, including dozens of Christians. Many were later freed.
A monitoring group said there were still pockets of fighting in the town.
The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Sunday there were still IS fighters in the eastern parts of the town, but that they were withdrawing.
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