The Syrian Conflict Thread

[Unhappy438]

So to summarise, no entries since last year October, just after Russia entered the war. Whilst previously they were hitting the area daily.

With this in mind and other information, it becomes abundantly clear Russia or Assad is responsible for the attack on the hospital, much like all those in the past.

 

[Noah]

So to summarise, no entries since last year October, just after Russia entered the war. Whilst previously they were hitting the area daily.

With this in mind and other information, it becomes abundantly clear Russia or Assad is responsible for the attack on the hospital, much like all those in the past.

No it's not lmao

 

[crackersa]

Nice video skipping nerd.

I've noticed you like to throw personal insults.

 

[Nanfeishen]

Crikey one would swear the rebel/alqaeda/isis held areas are full of innocents, hospitals, rescue workers and monitors all being mercilessly pummeled by government forces, while not fighting back at all.

 

[Unhappy438]

Crikey one would swear the rebel/alqaeda/isis held areas are full of innocents, hospitals, rescue workers and monitors all being mercilessly pummeled by government forces, while not fighting back at all.

So you're saying because there are terrorists in the region bombing hospitals is ok?

 

[Dave]

So to summarise, no entries since last year October, just after Russia entered the war. Whilst previously they were hitting the area daily.

How do you come to that conclusion? I presume you've somehow misused the table as I've gone back and double checked, there are entries for Syrian airstrikes on virtually every day in November and December 2015 and for January to April 2016.

You might want to go back and have another look, the blue table is scrollable and most recent airstrikes at the top...

The full list is in the pop-up box that appears, you need to scroll down to see all the dates.

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[Nanfeishen]

So you're saying because there are terrorists in the region bombing hospitals is ok?

An unofficial MSF supported place gets hit, who is really responsible ?

Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) does not provide GPS coordinates of health facilities it supports in Syria to either Damascus or Moscow over fears of “deliberate” attacks, the medical charity said, blaming a recent strike on “probably” Syrian or Russian forces.

“We gave to the Russian ambassadors in Paris [and] in Geneva coordinates for three hospitals located in very intense conflict zones, but not for all of them,

http://www.globalresearch.ca/doctor...-coordinates-from-damascus-and-moscow/5508982

MSF didn’t give Syrian regime, Russia GPS data of clinic hit by strikes fatal to 25
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...ata-clinic-hit-strikes-fatal-25/#.VyXSKU93NAl

Easy to make accusations of "deliberateness" if certain info is withheld on purpose under spurious claims.

Easier to scream atrocities by government forces to gain support.

Politics and war its just a frigging blame game.

 

[Unhappy438]

How do you come to that conclusion? I presume you've somehow misused the table as I've gone back and double checked, there are entries for Syrian airstrikes on virtually every day in November and December 2015 and for January to April 2016.

You might want to go back and have another look, the blue table is scrollable and most recent airstrikes at the top...

The full list is in the pop-up box that appears, you need to scroll down to see all the dates.

Where does it talk about Aleppo there?

An unofficial MSF supported place gets hit, who is really responsible ?

The person that bombs it, or are we victim blaming? Are you suggesting the Russians and Assad dont have a clue what they are bombing? So they are essentially carpet bombing? Probably sounds about right actually.

 

[Nanfeishen]

So they are essentially carpet bombing?

It happens, its war, its known as collateral damage and if the Medical facilites do not want to reveal their location, then they have no right to cry foul.

 

[Unhappy438]

It happens, its war, its known as collateral damage and if the Medical facilites do not want to reveal their location, then they have no right to cry foul.

Its telling that they don't wish to do so because of targeting.

 

[Noah]

Its telling that they don't wish to do so because of targeting.

Then ultimately suffer the consequences and stop bitching when they do get bombed.

 

[Dave]

Where does it talk about Aleppo there?

The Americans and coalition were bombing in Syria every day this year, your conclusion that because Alleppo isn't mentioned in the last x months means it's impossible for the Americans (or other coalition jet) to have bombed Aleppo last week is fallacious.

Let's give an easier analogy, I drive from Durban to Johannesburg every day for 6 months, for the first two months I stop in Ladysmith each journey, after that I don't stop in Ladysmith on any journey for the next 4 months, by your reasoning that means it is physically impossible for me to ever stop in Ladysmith ever again in the future?

 

[Alan]

Let's give an easier analogy, I drive from Durban to Johannesburg every day for 6 months, for the first two months I stop in Ladysmith each journey, after that I don't stop in Ladysmith on any journey for the next 4 months, by your reasoning that means it is physically impossible for me to ever stop in Ladysmith ever again in the future?

If you have been to Ladysmith you will realise that is spot on.

 

[Dave]

If you have been to Ladysmith you will realise that is spot on.

That's why I chose it .

 

[Unhappy438]

The Americans and coalition were bombing in Syria every day this year, your conclusion that because Alleppo isn't mentioned in the last x months means it's impossible for the Americans (or other coalition jet) to have bombed Aleppo last week is fallacious.

Let's give an easier analogy, I drive from Durban to Johannesburg every day for 6 months, for the first two months I stop in Ladysmith each journey, after that I don't stop in Ladysmith on any journey for the next 4 months, by your reasoning that means it is physically impossible for me to ever stop in Ladysmith ever again in the future?

So the Americans dont record a single entry about Aleppo since pretty much the exact same time Russia enters the war. Which pretty much confirms they have a deal in which they dont operate in the same areas as Russia. Despite all that they then just happen to go bomb in Aleppo the day a hospital is hit and in an area where there are forces they support. That's terribly convenient for both Russia and Assad.

 

[Dave]

So the Americans dont record a single entry about Aleppo since pretty much the exact same time Russia enters the war. Which pretty much confirms they have a deal in which they dont operate in the same areas as Russia. Despite all that they then just happen to go bomb in Aleppo the day a hospital is hit and in an area where there are forces they support. That's terribly convenient for both Russia and Assad.

It might be convenient, it might be inconvenient, but your hypothesis has no factual basis, that's all I'm saying.

 

[Unhappy438]

but your hypothesis has no factual basis, that's all I'm saying.

Of course it does, its based on 3 facts actually.

 

[Xarog]

Of course it does, its based on 3 facts actually.

It's based on what you consider likely, not what has been shown to actually be the case.

 

[Dave]

Of course it does, its based on 3 facts actually.

I think only you see your facts.

I think most others see it as clutching at straws, you do realise a fact is something that can be verified? Not just a hunch or supposition of what someone considers possible...

 

[Unhappy438]

I think only you see your facts.

I think most others see it as clutching at straws, you do realise a fact is something that can be verified? Not just a hunch or supposition of what someone considers possible...

The facts are all verifiable, you tell me which one isn't? So whilst you can disagree with my interpretation of the facts, you cant claim my hypothesis isn't based on facts.

It's based on what you consider likely, not what has been shown to actually be the case.

Yes that is true of my hypothesis but not true of the facts i have used for my hypothesis.