The Tesla Model 3 Thread

Engineer Who Compared Tesla Model 3 Quality To 'A Kia In The '90s' Buys Another Model 3. Here's What He Found

Sandy Munro, the manufacturing expert who once said an early Tesla Model 3 had fit and finish issues similar to “a Kia in the ’90s” now has a new Model 3. Munro just gave his company’s new car a once-over, and while he didn’t liken it it to a Korean economy car from three decades ago, he wasn’t thrilled with the flaws he spotted.

As I mentioned in my technical breakdown of the Tesla Model Y, Tesla has learned a lot since the Model 3 came onto the scene a few years ago, building a more efficient unibody structure and cleaning up some lazy fit-and-finish problems. That’s the case with the new Model 3 as well, though some fitment issues remain, per Munro, owner of the automotive benchmarking company Munro & Associates.



 
In Epically Nerdy Interview, Elon Musk Discusses Build Quality Problems With Engineer Who Compared Model 3 To 'A Kia In The '90s'

Elon Musk is taking accountability for Tesla’s manufacturing failures. He recently sat down with one of Tesla’s biggest build-quality critics, manufacturing expert Sandy Munro, founder of the benchmarking consultancy Munro & Associates. Here’s what Musk had to say about large panel gaps and poorly designed body structures in what has to be one of the most epic technical interviews I’ve seen in a while.

What happens when you take a manufacturing expert with decades of automotive engineering experience and put him in a room with a science nerd like Elon Musk? Magic. That’s what.

Munro, a man who made headlines after absolutely eviscerating the build quality of an early Model 3 by comparing it to a 1990s Kia, finally met face-to-face with Musk while the camera was rolling. It sounds like it could be a contentious circumstance, but what does Musk say right out of the gate? “I thought your criticisms were accurate.”

I’m far from a Tesla or Elon Musk stan, but I have to appreciate that honesty.


 
Fancy your Tesla Model 3 with a limited-slip diff?

Unplugged Performance will now fit an LSD to both the Model 3 and Model Y

Remember Unplugged Performance? They’re the folk living almost next-door to Tesla in California and are aiming to offer a service akin to McLaren’s MSO division or Rolls-Royce’s in-house customisation programmes.

You can have a read of our 2018 Unplugged Model 3 review by clicking these blue words, but before you do that there’s one big piece of news we should tell you about.

As part of its upgrade offerings for the Model 3, Unplugged has now launched a limited-slip differential that replaces the standard Tesla open diff and should improve high-speed cornering.

This is very good news. The Model 3 Performance of course has Track Mode which activates an electronic torque vectoring system, but this LSD will provide a more efficient distribution of power without using the brakes or stability control and can also be fitted to lesser, RWD 3s.


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I drove these electric cars until they Died! Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus vs Model 3 Long Range Performance vs Polestar 2 - Carwow

 
Tesla Is No Longer Hiding The Secret Canadian Model 3 No One Should Ever Buy

Businesses flexing a bit of legal chicanery to reap the greatest benefit certainly isn’t a new phenomenon under capitalism, though what Tesla’s been doing with the Model 3 in Canada recently is an especially absurd example. The automaker has been selling an intentionally terrible version of its entry-level sedan in the Great White North for the past two years, though it’s tried to keep the car’s existence on the down low — until now.

Go to the Model 3 configurator on Tesla’s Canadian website and you will see a checkbox under the Standard Range Plus model labeled “Limit to 151 km range.” That’s the equivalent of about 93 miles, and when you select it, the car’s price goes down by about $7,000 CAD. For reference, the Model 3 Standard Range Plus can travel 262 miles on a charge.

This checkbox was not present on the Model 3 configurator until recently, according to Electrek. It indicates that perhaps Tesla is being forced to acknowledge the existence of this model on its website when it hasn’t for the past two years.

So why does Tesla sell a woefully short-range version of the Model 3? In an effort to encourage carmakers to build affordable EVs and stimulate sales, the Canadian government instituted a program in 2019 where vehicles priced under $45,000 CAD that cost no more than $55,000 CAD after options would qualify for a $5,000 CAD incentive. In Canada, the Model 3 family initially started at more than $45,000 CAD, so it wouldn’t have qualified.


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So i just got this mail yesterday:

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The Standard Mode + price just dropped 50k NOK (86k ZAR) overnight.

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Still clocking in at 448km range, it's not bad at ALL and a serious contender for most people...

The Long Range model is now 100k more expensive (170k ZAR) for 130km extra range.

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My friend in San Francisco has the Tesla model 3 (Long Range) which is more conventional than the "X".

For the first 18 months it was flawless, then there have been a series of niggling faults - juddering brakes, the boot (trunk) lid showing open when it was closed (and the car would not go), the 17" screen showing green lines across the display. This past week when he approaches the car, the doors open and re-lock themselves. He had to wait 48 hours for an on-line software change to be made. Not good. He ended up driving his wife's e-Hyundai

After it was towed in ($155 charge) to replace the trunk lid switch, the "lamp fail" indicator shows now and then. He said the rear lamp holder was really flimsy and embedded in here is the magnetic trunk reed switch

Complaints to Tesla fall on deaf ears.
 
My friend in San Francisco has the Tesla model 3 (Long Range) which is more conventional than the "X".

For the first 18 months it was flawless, then there have been a series of niggling faults - juddering brakes, the boot (trunk) lid showing open when it was closed (and the car would not go), the 17" screen showing green lines across the display. This past week when he approaches the car, the doors open and re-lock themselves. He had to wait 48 hours for an on-line software change to be made. Not good. He ended up driving his wife's e-Hyundai

After it was towed in ($155 charge) to replace the trunk lid switch, the "lamp fail" indicator shows now and then. He said the rear lamp holder was really flimsy and embedded in here is the magnetic trunk reed switch

Complaints to Tesla fall on deaf ears.
That is pretty shocking for a ''premium car''. You think that they would do better job what with the power of SM & how (bad) news spreads.

Not meaning to be that guy but you mentioned Model 3, the M3 has the 15" portrait screen, the Model S (& X) has the 17" landscape screen.
 
Another Video Shows A Driver Abusing Tesla Autopilot On Public Roads

A short clip posted on YouTube earlier this week shows a man seated in the rear of a moving Tesla Model 3, leaving no one in the driver’s seat. It appears to be another instance of abuse of the company’s Autopilot and Full-Self Driving features—features whose names do not correspond to the reality of their capabilities.

You can watch the clip, posted on Ingineerix on YouTube, below.

The man sitting in the back seat stares straight into the camera as the Tesla continues to roll down the street near Berkeley, California. And this man has gone the same thing on several previous occasions, SF Gate reports. In one report, the man was sitting in the backseat with his feet on the steering wheel.

It’s worth noting here that, while there are certain features built into Teslas equipped with Autopilot that are designed to deter a driver from leaving their seat, it is totally possible to trick the system into thinking there’s someone behind the wheel. Consumer Reports was easily able to do so, and while the system corrected lanes, it never sent out an alert that there was no physical person behind the steering wheel.



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Idiot Caught Not-Driving Tesla From Backseat Claims To Have Driven 40,000 Miles While Not In Driver's Seat - Jalopnik​

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One of the major problems with Tesla’s implementation of their semi-automated, Level 2 driver-assist system, confusingly called Autopilot or, in other variants, Full Self-Driving, is that it has inadequate systems in place to confirm there’s a human at the wheel, ready to take over in an instant, and, like all Level 2 systems, has no safe failover behaviour to get the car out of the way if no driver is detected or something else goes wrong.

While I’ve had many Tesla-lovers scream at me about how these things just aren’t problems, the existence of morons like this guy arrested for misusing his Tesla’s Autopilot are proof it is.

And this dipshit, oh boy, is an especially egregious example of the problem, as the not-driver, a 25 year-old noted Instagram tumour named Param Sharma, claims to have driven in a Tesla with no one in the driver’s seat for a total of 40,000 miles.

Now, just to clarify, I’m not saying the fault here all lies with Tesla, not by a long shot—Teslas do provide a bunch of warning messages and it’s very clearly stated that, no, dummy, you should not ignore what’s going on and not be ready to take over, because the system is not designed to work that way.

 
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