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Alex on Autos first drive of the 2022 BRZ
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Here's The One Thing That Makes The 2022 Subaru BRZ Better Than The Toyota GR 86
Sometimes, too much of the same thing is really good, actually.
Verdict
Subaru would like you to think the modifications it made to the BRZ’s dynamics were done to promote “stability” and “precision.” (Those are words the company used in its own presentation materials, I assure you.) I’m paraphrasing, but I imagine Toyota would probably like you to think the changes it made were done in the interest of visceral feedback and livelier antics.
I don’t think one pair of ideals is inherently more righteous than the other. Even granting the slight ways each car embodies those virtues, the gap is marginal. These are both wonderful little sports cars, and we’re lucky to have them at a time when everything’s getting big, expensive and spiritless.
If you experienced the original Toyobarus, you’ll appreciate the new engine for its increased responsiveness and usability low in the range; you’ll also probably be happier with the punched-up interior and its more modern, techy amenities. And if you never drove either of those cars, well — don’t make the same mistake twice if you can help it.
Here's The One Thing That Makes The 2022 Subaru BRZ Better Than The Toyota GR 86 - Jalopnik
Nothing. No, really.
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TFLnow insert of the 2022 GR 86
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2022 Subaru BRZ pricing and specs announced - Drive.com.au
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Is the 2022 Toyota GR 86 Automatic a BETTER sports car than a Mazda Miata? - Raiti's Rides
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savagegeese review of the 2022 GR86
that power at the wheels is impressive. They once again underquoting their power. i still prefer the looks of the outgoing car but as a package im a huge fan of this one.
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The New 2022 Subaru BRZ Is Way Better Than the Original - Doug DeMuro
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Wow, check out Pandem Rocket Bunny’s GR 86 bodykit
Want a new Toyota sports car with a little more attitude? Step right this way…
Like the sound of the new, 2.4-litre flat-four engined Toyota GR 86 but reckon its looks are a little on the safe side? Have we got just the thing for you. Check out this new Pandem Rocket Bunny widebody kit. Bonkers.
It’s the work of Tops Racing Arts Kyoto (otherwise known as TRA Kyoto) and its founder Kei Miura. Look at that wild front bumper with extra intakes and the riveted arches.
There’s a new diffuser round the back too, as well as a wraparound rear wing that offers some real presence. By the looks of this demonstrator the interior has also been stripped and fitted with a proper roll cage.
Want a new Toyota sports car with a little more attitude? Step right this way…
Like the sound of the new, 2.4-litre flat-four engined Toyota GR 86 but reckon its looks are a little on the safe side? Have we got just the thing for you. Check out this new Pandem Rocket Bunny widebody kit. Bonkers.
It’s the work of Tops Racing Arts Kyoto (otherwise known as TRA Kyoto) and its founder Kei Miura. Look at that wild front bumper with extra intakes and the riveted arches.
There’s a new diffuser round the back too, as well as a wraparound rear wing that offers some real presence. By the looks of this demonstrator the interior has also been stripped and fitted with a proper roll cage.
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It's Cheaper To Import A BRZ From Canada Than To Buy One In The U.S.
Once again, Canada's car market proves cooler than America's for budding enthusiasts
Earlier this month, Subaru released pricing information for the 2022 BRZ in Canada. Its base and Sport-tech trims mirror the U.S.’s Premium and Limited configurations for features, but Canadian enthusiasts are charged considerably less for their daily drifters. So much less, in fact, that it’s cheaper to import a BRZ than to buy one in the U.S.
Here in the U.S., a base BRZ starts at $27,995 before destination and delivery. A Canadian base model costs CAD $29,495 — just $23,427 at current exchange rates. Even accounting for destination, delivery, and other fees, the Canadian BRZ costs only $25,094 in Freedom Bucks.
Cars in Canada often go for slightly different converted rates than their American counterparts. Sometimes it’s due to marginal equipment differences, other times it’s due to the cost of transport. A $4,500 difference, however, is considerable — especially on such a budget-minded car.
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Once again, Canada's car market proves cooler than America's for budding enthusiasts
Earlier this month, Subaru released pricing information for the 2022 BRZ in Canada. Its base and Sport-tech trims mirror the U.S.’s Premium and Limited configurations for features, but Canadian enthusiasts are charged considerably less for their daily drifters. So much less, in fact, that it’s cheaper to import a BRZ than to buy one in the U.S.
Here in the U.S., a base BRZ starts at $27,995 before destination and delivery. A Canadian base model costs CAD $29,495 — just $23,427 at current exchange rates. Even accounting for destination, delivery, and other fees, the Canadian BRZ costs only $25,094 in Freedom Bucks.
Cars in Canada often go for slightly different converted rates than their American counterparts. Sometimes it’s due to marginal equipment differences, other times it’s due to the cost of transport. A $4,500 difference, however, is considerable — especially on such a budget-minded car.
It's Cheaper To Import A BRZ From Canada Than To Buy One In The U.S. - Jalopnik
Earlier this month, Subaru released pricing information for the 2022 BRZ in Canada. Its base and Sport-tech trims mirror the U.S.’s Premium and Limited configurations for features, but Canadian enthusiasts are charged considerably less for their daily drifters. So much less, in fact, that it’s...
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The Making of the 2022 Subaru BRZ
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savagegeese review of the 2022 BRZ
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MotorWeek first drive of the 2022 BRZ
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Toyota GR 86 buyers offered Subaru BRZ test drives in Japan
New sports coupé hits its home market at less than £20,000, and buyers can also try its Subaru sibling
The long-awaited Toyota GR 86 has launched in its Japanese home market, and prospective customers are being offered back-to-back test drives with its near-identical Subaru BRZ sibling.
As with the previous-generation BRZ and Toyota GT86, the new sports coupés have been developed in tandem by the Japanese manufacturers and share their engine, overall design, cabin layout and fundamental elements of their chassis. But Toyota maintains that it has "focused on delivering the unique driving feel of a GR [Gazoo Racing] vehicle" and wants buyers to see the difference.
With orders now open at Toyota dealerships in Japan, the firm has invited fans to a dedicated event at the Fuji Speedway to compare the characteristics of the two cars. A range of activities are planned to highlight the disparities between the cars, before in-store presentations begin in December.
Subaru isn't bringing the BRZ to Europe, so GR 86 buyers in the UK won't be afforded the same opportunity to compare the two cars back to back.
www.autocar.co.uk
New sports coupé hits its home market at less than £20,000, and buyers can also try its Subaru sibling
The long-awaited Toyota GR 86 has launched in its Japanese home market, and prospective customers are being offered back-to-back test drives with its near-identical Subaru BRZ sibling.
As with the previous-generation BRZ and Toyota GT86, the new sports coupés have been developed in tandem by the Japanese manufacturers and share their engine, overall design, cabin layout and fundamental elements of their chassis. But Toyota maintains that it has "focused on delivering the unique driving feel of a GR [Gazoo Racing] vehicle" and wants buyers to see the difference.
With orders now open at Toyota dealerships in Japan, the firm has invited fans to a dedicated event at the Fuji Speedway to compare the characteristics of the two cars. A range of activities are planned to highlight the disparities between the cars, before in-store presentations begin in December.
Subaru isn't bringing the BRZ to Europe, so GR 86 buyers in the UK won't be afforded the same opportunity to compare the two cars back to back.
Toyota GR 86 buyers offered Subaru BRZ test drives in Japan | Autocar
New sports coupé hits its home market at less than £20,000, and buyers can also try its Subaru sibling
www.autocar.co.uk
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The 2022 Toyota GR 86 Brings Back The Barebones RC Trim
The Japan-only super-base model gets a few upgrades over the previous generation
The 2013 Toyota GT 86 RC was one of the cooler Toyotas in recent memory. It was a completely stripped out first-generation car: No radio, no dash trim, no alloy wheels, no paint on the bumpers. All it had was a front engine, two driven wheels out back, and a six-speed connecting them — perfection.
For 2022, the updated GR 86 brings back that stripped-out RC trim. This time, it carries a few upgrades over the old race-team-ready model, but keeps its place as the entry-level modern hachiroku.
The 2022 GR 86 RC has a few immediately noticeable differences. Gone are the standard 17" wheels from the export base models, replaced with 16" steel wheels wearing narrower 205/55R16 tires. Also gone are the exhaust tips — the exhaust simply ends somewhere below the bumper.
Less obvious are some other changes. The RC has no trunk lid carpeting, but good luck noticing without any trunk lights. There’s no engine cover, and some amount of sound deadening appears to be removed from the floor. The car’s pumped-in engine audio has been deleted, as have most of the speakers that would play it — only two remain on the RC.
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The Japan-only super-base model gets a few upgrades over the previous generation
The 2013 Toyota GT 86 RC was one of the cooler Toyotas in recent memory. It was a completely stripped out first-generation car: No radio, no dash trim, no alloy wheels, no paint on the bumpers. All it had was a front engine, two driven wheels out back, and a six-speed connecting them — perfection.
For 2022, the updated GR 86 brings back that stripped-out RC trim. This time, it carries a few upgrades over the old race-team-ready model, but keeps its place as the entry-level modern hachiroku.
The 2022 GR 86 RC has a few immediately noticeable differences. Gone are the standard 17" wheels from the export base models, replaced with 16" steel wheels wearing narrower 205/55R16 tires. Also gone are the exhaust tips — the exhaust simply ends somewhere below the bumper.
Less obvious are some other changes. The RC has no trunk lid carpeting, but good luck noticing without any trunk lights. There’s no engine cover, and some amount of sound deadening appears to be removed from the floor. The car’s pumped-in engine audio has been deleted, as have most of the speakers that would play it — only two remain on the RC.
The 2022 Toyota GR 86 Brings Back The Barebones RC Trim - Jalopnik
The 2013 Toyota GT 86 RC was one of the cooler Toyotas in recent memory. It was a completely stripped out first-generation car: No radio, no dash trim, no alloy wheels, no paint on the bumpers. All it had was a front engine, two driven wheels out back, and a six-speed connecting them — perfection.
jalopnik.com
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Base-spec Toyota GR 86 gets steel wheels and screen-free dash
Consumers looking for a pure blank canvas sportscar experience in the Japanese market can have this in the base-spec Toyota GR 86 in RC guise. In order to make the compact sportscar more accessible, the manufacturer has gone back to base roots and stripped out as many comfort features as possible.
For just ¥2 799 000 (approximately R375 000) you can have a Toyota GR 86 experience with 16-inch steel wheels as well as the removal of the spare wheel, rear foglamp, boot lighting and padding around the engine bay, floor and muffler.
Keeping things as simple as possible in the cabin, the Toyota GR 86 has also had its touchscreen infotainment system removed, with a black plastic panel replacing it on the dashboard. Other than these exclusions, this RC trim retains its leather-upholstered seats, air conditioning system, leather-wrapped multifunction steering wheel and digital instrument display.
Toyota South Africa has confirmed that the Toyota GR 86 will be available in the South African market but the launch date and pricing will only be revealed next year. It is unlikely that this base RC trim will be sold here with it.
www.carmag.co.za
Consumers looking for a pure blank canvas sportscar experience in the Japanese market can have this in the base-spec Toyota GR 86 in RC guise. In order to make the compact sportscar more accessible, the manufacturer has gone back to base roots and stripped out as many comfort features as possible.
For just ¥2 799 000 (approximately R375 000) you can have a Toyota GR 86 experience with 16-inch steel wheels as well as the removal of the spare wheel, rear foglamp, boot lighting and padding around the engine bay, floor and muffler.
Keeping things as simple as possible in the cabin, the Toyota GR 86 has also had its touchscreen infotainment system removed, with a black plastic panel replacing it on the dashboard. Other than these exclusions, this RC trim retains its leather-upholstered seats, air conditioning system, leather-wrapped multifunction steering wheel and digital instrument display.
Toyota South Africa has confirmed that the Toyota GR 86 will be available in the South African market but the launch date and pricing will only be revealed next year. It is unlikely that this base RC trim will be sold here with it.
Base-spec Toyota GR 86 gets steel wheels and screen-free dash
Consumers looking for a pure blank canvas sportscar experience in the Japanese market can have this in the base-spec Toyota GR 86 in RC guise. In order to make the compact sportscar more accessible, the manufacturer has gone back to base roots and stripped out as many comfort features as possible.
www.carmag.co.za
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Autocar first drive of the GR86
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The Toyota GR86 might go electric in the future…
… but Toyota is only in the very early stages of future-proofing its lightweight sports car
The Toyota GR86 is here. And with a naturally aspirated petrol engine hooked up to a manual gearbox, it’s delightfully – and very starkly – old-school. Especially as the performance car world becomes increasingly electrified.
So were the team not tempted to swing their sports car in that direction, especially given Toyota’s sturdy reputation for selling hybrids?
“A hybrid system would make it heavier and we decided in the initial development stages we wanted an engine only,” Chief Engineer Yasunori Suezawa tells us.
“We are investigating future options. Our intent is to keep providing this type of vehicle and that’s the reason we’ve gone into an investigation of different options. However, we’ve just started this, so we’re not at a stage where we can mention hybrid or EV et cetera. That’s all I can say at the moment.”
Once again, Toyota developed this car in tandem with the Subaru BRZ. And as the Toyota bZ4X and Subaru Solterra prove, it’s a relationship that’s led to a pair of electric SUVs as well as sports cars. Could the two worlds collide?
“The joint operation has given us increased volume total and a global vehicle that we really get synergy out of. It helps us fight the cost struggles of providing a sports car that’s affordable. It was tough, but we’re providing the car at a cost point we aimed for – so not a significant increase on the previous model.
“All I can say is that we want to keep providing the GR86, with several different options currently under discussion.”
www.topgear.com
… but Toyota is only in the very early stages of future-proofing its lightweight sports car
The Toyota GR86 is here. And with a naturally aspirated petrol engine hooked up to a manual gearbox, it’s delightfully – and very starkly – old-school. Especially as the performance car world becomes increasingly electrified.
So were the team not tempted to swing their sports car in that direction, especially given Toyota’s sturdy reputation for selling hybrids?
“A hybrid system would make it heavier and we decided in the initial development stages we wanted an engine only,” Chief Engineer Yasunori Suezawa tells us.
“We are investigating future options. Our intent is to keep providing this type of vehicle and that’s the reason we’ve gone into an investigation of different options. However, we’ve just started this, so we’re not at a stage where we can mention hybrid or EV et cetera. That’s all I can say at the moment.”
Once again, Toyota developed this car in tandem with the Subaru BRZ. And as the Toyota bZ4X and Subaru Solterra prove, it’s a relationship that’s led to a pair of electric SUVs as well as sports cars. Could the two worlds collide?
“The joint operation has given us increased volume total and a global vehicle that we really get synergy out of. It helps us fight the cost struggles of providing a sports car that’s affordable. It was tough, but we’re providing the car at a cost point we aimed for – so not a significant increase on the previous model.
“All I can say is that we want to keep providing the GR86, with several different options currently under discussion.”
The Toyota GR86 might go electric in the future…
… but Toyota is only in the very early stages of future-proofing its lightweight sports car
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Toyota GR86 review: the cheapest Gazoo performance car
Do you know how the BRZ compares?
In the UK – and indeed Europe – it’s a moot point, because we no longer get the choice. Only the GR86 will make it here. But Toyota is so confident at how divergent the cars’ characters now are, it’s been offering its Japanese customers back-to-back drives between the ’86 and gen2 BRZ at Fuji Speedway. Reports suggest the Subaru is more focused more on grip and lap-times than flamboyant rear-drive japery.
So if it’s Waku-Doki you want, the Toyota is the place to find it. And if the GR Yaris waiting list is getting you down, Gazoo’s cheaper alternative has the potential to put an even bigger smile on your face. We can't wait to try the finished product.
SPECS
2,387cc flat-four, RWD, 6spd manual (6spd auto optional)
231bhp @ 7,000rpm, 184lb ft @ 3,700rpm
0-62mph in 6.3secs (auto 6.9secs), 140mph (auto 134mph)
1,275kg
£30,000 approx.
www.topgear.com
Do you know how the BRZ compares?
In the UK – and indeed Europe – it’s a moot point, because we no longer get the choice. Only the GR86 will make it here. But Toyota is so confident at how divergent the cars’ characters now are, it’s been offering its Japanese customers back-to-back drives between the ’86 and gen2 BRZ at Fuji Speedway. Reports suggest the Subaru is more focused more on grip and lap-times than flamboyant rear-drive japery.
So if it’s Waku-Doki you want, the Toyota is the place to find it. And if the GR Yaris waiting list is getting you down, Gazoo’s cheaper alternative has the potential to put an even bigger smile on your face. We can't wait to try the finished product.
SPECS
2,387cc flat-four, RWD, 6spd manual (6spd auto optional)
231bhp @ 7,000rpm, 184lb ft @ 3,700rpm
0-62mph in 6.3secs (auto 6.9secs), 140mph (auto 134mph)
1,275kg
£30,000 approx.
Toyota GR86 review: the cheapest Gazoo performance car Reviews 2023 | Top Gear
Well this looks fun to drive… ‘Waku-Doki’, we think you mean. Not a new In The Night Garden character about to muscle in on the Tombliboos’ turf, rather the Japanese philosophy of ‘heart-pumping excitement’. We’re promised the Toyota GR86 is chock-a-block with it.