The Toyota Supra Thread

In my opinion, this thing should have been called the Toyota Z or Toyota opera. Any name but the Supra name. This is not a supra.
  1. I hate the design cue. The F1 inspired nose has been over used and looks crap. Does not even look close to a supra. None of the supra design styles has been carried over. Even the roof line looks like it was borrowed from the gtr 35. Rear is same as z4
  2. Why in heavens name with all there in house technology do they take a bmw z4 and rebadge it as one of the most loved super cars.
  3. Then Toyota uses a bmw engine. Not cool. The 2jz GTE was an cast iron block, simple and strong. Could easily make 800 hp on stock engine. Change out the turbo and conrods and easy 1000 hp. That’s why it the engine is used by most tuners. See how many supra engines run sub 7 second quarter miles. Bmw engines are expensive when things go wrong. Also well documented engine issues.
  4. https://jalopnik.com/bmw-engines-are-gigantic-pieces-of-****-1784684330
Toyota has disgraced the supra heritage with this POS. When Nissan made the 35. It was a Nissan made by Nissan from scratch based on the r32 r33 and r34. Toyota seemed to taken a short cut.

Good luck to maintain that bmw supra as it is just another bmw with bmw prices. Supra lost all its JDM street cred by going german.

wonder with the next Jap vs German day which side the Toyota z4 will join?
 
New Toyota Supra Leaks Early (Video)

The highly anticipated Toyota Supra has leaked early, ahead of its official reveal at the 2019 Detroit Motor Show next week. Here's a first look.

Ahead of its imminent global reveal, Toyota tweeted out a video showcasing the all-new Supra. While we don't have official specifications as yet, we do know that it shares more than a few components with the soon-to-be-launched BMW Z4.

According to Toyota Supra chief engineer, Tetsuya Tada, inline 6 cylinder engines are a non-negotiable attribute. The BMW-sourced motor should produce around 284 kW and 500 Nm, giving the new Supra enough shove to see it run to 100 kph in around 4.4 seconds. For those craving precise handling, there will be 50/50 weight distribution, a rigid body and adaptive dampers. Some rumours suggest that more engines including 4 cylinders will follow.

We'll have more details when the Toyota Supra launches early next week.

https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/new-toyota-supra-leaks-early-video/45968/

 
Even the Ford inline 6 made more power than this.
 
Leaky’ Supra teased again ahead of Monday’s full reveal

Toyota’s reincarnated Supra is quite possibly the most ‘teased’ car in history, so no reason why it can't be teased once more, just ahead of its actual reveal, which takes place on Monday.

That’s exactly what Toyota has done with the latest preview image, which shows part of the new sports car’s tail end, including its big, bulgy spoiler.

In fact, Toyota promises that this is the last ‘teaser’, although that statement is followed by a cheeky little asterisk, stating that’s “subject to change”.

Which it probably will, knowing them.

But doesn’t the world already know what the new Supra looks like, in any case?

After all, it is also one of the most ‘leaked’ cars in modern history too.

Among the clearest views so far is a pair of official-looking images that appeared on the SupraMkV website - click here for more - showing us the front and rear styling in all its glory.

The full technical details will only be officially revealed next week, but we do know for sure that the Supra shares its rear-wheel-drive chassis with the BMW Z4, as well as its engines, which includes 2-litre four-cylinder and 3-litre straight-six turbopetrols. Both will be mated to BMW’s ZF-sourced eight-speed automatic gearbox.

According to an apparent leaked document that surfaced last year, the 2-litre Supra will be tuned to 195kW, while the 3-litre will be good for 250kW.

Watch this space for all the official info late Monday afternoon.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/late...d-again-ahead-of-mondays-full-reveal-18781010

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The 2020 Toyota Supra Leaked Again, Claimed to Start At $49,990

We’re going to see the new Toyota Supra launched at the Detroit Auto Show on Monday, but ahead of the official launch SupraMkV.com is saying they have a source providing pricing of the new car, as well as the three launch trims, and a few new official photographs.

Take this leak with a grain of salt, as it still hasn’t been confirmed, but Jalopnik has reached out to Toyota and we will update this post with more information as it becomes available.

The new Supra will launch in base, premium, and special Launch Edition, according to the forum.

Base 3.0 six cylinder: $49,990
Premium 3.0 six cylinder: $53,990
Launch edition 3.0 six cylinder: $55,250

The Launch Edition is the pre-order car, and among other things has some aesthetic changes and may come with some accessories off car, but at its core is the 3.0L Premium.​
If these numbers are real, it’s even a little less than what we were expecting – which can only be a good thing.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-toyota-supra-leaked-again-will-start-at-49-9-1831707870

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If You Needed Any More Confirmation, Here’s the New Toyota Supra on the Cover of Car and Driver

We’ve received this image of an advance copy of the upcoming Car and Driver issue, and guess what? It has the best view yet of Toyota’s new Supra ahead of the planned launch tomorrow.

Because of the realities of printed media and the time it takes for a magazine to be laid out, printed, and shipped to newsstands, Toyota obviously had to have given C/D access to these images much earlier than the rest of the automotive world. Because magazines exist in a different universe, this is the February 2019 issue, so why not use an image of a car that has been teased unofficially a hundred times already.

You can see the full thing right here, tomorrow night, complete with all the details you can handle, as soon as the cover is officially pulled off of the car here in Detroit.

https://jalopnik.com/if-you-needed-any-more-confirmation-here-s-the-new-sup-1831717478

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New 2019 Toyota Supra: official images and details revealed

Toyota pits ‘pure sports car’ against Porsche 718 Cayman after 17-year absence

The new Toyota GR Supra – a model that returns after a 17-year break – is a sports car “in the purest form”, according to the Japanese manufacturer, with a singular focus on driver pleasure.

The fifth-generation Supra retains the front-engined, rear-wheel-drive, two-seat layout of previous versions. The Porsche 718 Cayman rival has been honed by Toyota’s Gazoo Racing performance division and was developed alongside the BMW Z4, with which it shares a 3.0-litre straight-six turbocharged engine, producing 335bhp and 362lb ft, and an eight-speed automatic gearbox.

The BMW-developed inline six-cylinder used in the GR Supra features a twin-scroll turbocharger, with direct fuel injection and variable valve control. It has been tuned, says Toyota, to offer ‘segment-leading’ torque performance from very low revs. The maximum 362lb ft of torque is available between 1600-4500rpm.

That gives the GR Supra 52lb ft more torque than the 310lb ft the Porsche 718 Cayman S produces between 2100-4500rpm and, at a claimed 4.3sec, the Toyota is 0.3sec quicker from 0-62mph. The 335bhp developed by the GR Supra’s engine is 10bhp down on the 718 Cayman S.

The Supra offers Normal and Sport drive modes, launch control and a special ‘track’ setting that reduces the influence of the Vehicle Stability Control system. In Europe, it will be sold exclusively with an active differential.

The car is based around a ‘condensed extreme’ concept, the long bonnet and bubble roof reflecting the famed Toyota 2000GT of the 1960s and front and rear styling that nods to the fourth-generation Supra. It also features prominent curved rear wings, which Toyota claims approach the limits of what can be manufactured at high volume.

Toyota says the dimensions were set around achieving a “golden ratio” between the wheelbase length and the tread width of 1.55. The new Supra has a wheelbase of 2470mm – compared with 2570mm for the GT86 – with a tread width of 1594mm at the front and 1589mm at the rear. Overall width is 1854mm.

The Supra sits on double-joint MacPherson struts at the front and a five-link system at the rear. It has 19in alloy wheels with Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres – slightly wider at the rear than the front – and four-pot Brembo brake calipers.

Toyota Gazoo Racing’s development team was key to refining the car’s handling, which was honed both on public roads and race tracks including the Nürburgring. Toyota says the Supra has higher structural integrity than the Lexus LFA supercar, a lower centre of gravity than the cheaper Toyota GT86 and 50:50 front/rear weight distribution. Achieving the latter involved pushing the engine as far back as possible beneath the bonnet.

The car’s styling features a large central grille with air intakes and six-lens LED headlights, which lead into the long, low bonnet that, along with the double-bubble roof, has been designed to minimise drag.

Inside, Toyota says the Supra cockpit has been inspired by single-seater racing cars, with a low dashboard to maximise forward views and the main controls tightly grouped together. Reflecting its development alongside the Z4, the interior of the Supra makes extensive use of BMW switchgear.

There is a three-spoke leather-covered steering wheel, racing-influenced Alcantara-covered seats and an 8.8in digital driver instrument display, along with an 8.8in central multimedia display that can be operated via touchscreen or a rotary controller. The boot measures 290 litres, compared with 281 litres for the Z4.

The GR Supra will launch with two trim levels, called Active and Premium. Higher-spec Premium models gain black leather upholstery, a 12-speaker JBL sound system, a head-up display and a wireless smartphone charger.

Built alongside the Z4 in Graz, Austria, first deliveries of the GR Supra are due by late summer, with a limit of 900 cars in Europe in the first year, on an expected price tag of around £50,000.

The first 90 European customers who pre-order will be offered a limited A90 Edition – reflecting the chassis code seen on the development car – that will come with a Storm Grey matt paint finish, black alloy wheels and a rear leather interior.

While the Supra will be a comparatively low-volume product, its importance to Toyota as a halo model is demonstrated by the fact that Akio Toyoda, the company’s president, tested the car on the Nürburgring before giving it his final approval.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...ta-supra-official-images-and-details-revealed

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The 2020 Toyota Supra Is Finally Here With 335 HP, Does Zero to 60 in 4.1 Seconds

No more leaks. No more teasers. No more camouflage. At long last the all-new 2020 Toyota Supra is here to revive a storied nameplate, and even if it’s a BMW underneath now it’s still packing turbocharged inline-six power, rear-wheel drive and aggressive looks.

You probably know the back story by now, but I’ll touch on that in a bit anyway. In the meantime here’s what’s important: 335 horsepower, 365 lb-ft of torque, eight-speed paddle shift automatic only, and an impressive estimated zero to 60 mph time of 4.1 seconds. Top speed is limited to 155 mph, and weight comes in at 3,397 pounds.

Regardless of any kind of specs, for many enthusiasts everywhere, this has been a long time coming.

The most famous Supra, the MKIV or A80, was discontinued in America in 1998 and everywhere in 2002 amid tightening emissions standards, Japan’s recession and a globally declining sports car market. Its return has been the stuff of car magazine (and later, car blog) rumors almost ever since, including whispers of a hybrid or even mid-engine successor.

In 2012 Toyota announced a sports car joint venture with BMW, and years of spy shots and more rumors followed until the 2019 BMW Z4 was finally unveiled last summer. Since then its rollout has been almost excruciating—one spy shot and leak and exhaust clip and pricing tidbit and misplaced tweet after another. Just give us the damn car already, every fan seemed to scream. We even drove a prototype back in September, still wearing camouflage.

The Supra and Z4 share nearly all components, including a 3.0-liter twin-turbo inline six BMW engine (the code is B58, for all you nerds), a BMW platform and an eight-speed automatic gearbox. A four-cylinder Z4 is coming soon and the same motor is anticipated for the Supra as well.

But as much as we enjoy a good BMW convertible, it’s been the Supra that’s commanded the lion’s share of attention—and rightfully so. Over the past 20 years it’s evolved from being just the Toyota brand’s last flagship sport coupe to a tuner legend, with modders and drag racers everywhere frequently building up its 2JZ-GTE inline six to four-digit horsepower levels. The original Supra was a potent grand tourer—albeit a heavy one—but it really came into its own when people started messing with it.

This new Supra is a different animal. For one, it’s a two-seater like the Z4 is, unlike every Supra that’s come before it. It has iDrive because it’s a BMW! It’s smaller and lighter than its predecessor, and this time around it was benchmarked against the Porsche Cayman and Boxster. It seems to be more of a purer sports car than last time, although we’re positive the tuners will have fun with it just as they did the smaller Subaru BRZ and Toyota GT86.

The question is this: Will it drive too much like a BMW to stand on its own, or will the experience be good enough that its German car guts won’t matter? We’ll find out when we drive it soon.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-toyota-supra-is-finally-here-with-335-hp-does-1831719119

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