The Toyota Supra Thread

Z4 interior a little nicer.
Curious if Toyota will still get the discounts making this cheaper than the Z4.

Doubt think a R800k Toyota will sell. No matter how fancy
 
Toyota Supra

The 2020 Supra goes on sale in summer of 2019 and will be available in two grades - 3.0 and 3.0 Premium, as well as a Launch Edition which will be based on the 3.0 Premium grade. Driving enthusiasts can look forward to an exhilarating blend of power, precision and agility thanks to a rear-wheel drive design that honors Toyota sports car heritage with its low center of gravity and optimal weight balance. There is a strong connection to Toyota's 1967 2000 GT and 1993-2002 Supra in both design and mechanical configuration.

Yet, the 2020 Toyota Supra is a fully forward-looking sports car, brimming with a cutting-edge powertrain, chassis and multimedia technology. Like the pinnacle of the previous Supra series, the 2020 model will be powered by a turbocharged inline six-cylinder engine. The new Supra's 3.0-liter twin-scroll turbo six will produce 335 hp and 365 lb-ft of torque and will be teamed with a quick-shifting 8-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters. Toyota projects 0-60 mph acceleration in 4.1 seconds, which makes this the quickest toyota-branded production vehicle to date.

By defining specific performance and handling targets early in development, Toyota GAZOO Racing in Japan, with much input from Toyota Motor North America and Toyota Motor Europe, imbued the Toyota Supra with its own driving characteristics. While posting the kind of performance numbers that excite enthusiasts, the 2020 Supra will reward drivers of all skill levels with a thrilling sports car feel, even in everyday driving.

Toyota President and Master Driver Akio Toyoda tested the Supra on the Nürburgring and other racing venues to give his personal feedback as a Master Driver to ensure this new model would exceed the expectations of Toyota Supra fans across the globe.

Supra devotees have waited a long time for the next-generation model. They'll find the 2020 Supra worth the wait.

https://www.netcarshow.com/toyota/2020-supra/

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The wait is over! New Toyota Supra finally (officially) revealed

Yes, the wait is finally over. After what seemed like an absolute age, peppered with teasers and the inevitable leak or three, the new A90-generation Toyota Supra has finally been (officially) revealed.

The fifth-generation, two-seater Supra that debuted at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit is powered by a turbocharged inline six-cylinder engine from BMW (and shared with the Z4 roadster alongside which the new Supra was developed).

The 3,0-litre twin-scroll unit in question produces 250 kW and 500 N.m and is linked to an eight-speed automatic transmission (with paddle shifters) from ZF. The Japanese automaker claims a zero to 100 km/h time of 4,3 seconds for this flagship rear-wheel-drive coupé, while top speed is electronically limited to 250 km/h.

Some markets, however, will also receive a 2,0-litre, four-cylinder turbocharged engine (likewise from BMW), offered in two states of tune: 145 kW/320 N.m and 190 kW/400 N.m.

Toyota says the new Supra boasts a 50:50 weight distribution while “optimising front-to-rear aerodynamic balance”. It features a wheelbase of 2 470 mm and a kerb weight of 1 520 kg (for the 3,0-litre model). Interestingly, the new model will feature just two driving modes: normal and sport.

The Supra boasts an active differential that uses an electric motor and multi-plate clutches to control lateral torque. The flagship version of the new model will ship standard on 19-inch forged alloy wheels, with the rear wheels and Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres wider than on the front (255/35 R19 fore and 275/35 R19 aft).

Adaptive variable suspension will also come standard on this derivative, “instantly” adjusting damping force in response to driver input and road conditions.

Toyota claims the Supra cockpit “deftly blends traditional GT elements with ultra-modern functionality”. A high-definition colour display forms the instrument panel, projecting a large-diameter, three-dimensional dial that seems to float over it.

The centre console takes on an asymmetrical shape, with a padded pillar serving as a right leg bolster. The passenger’s side of the console, meanwhile, is open for what the firm describes as “a roomy feel”, yet also features kneepads for bolstering in corners.

The sport seats feature integrated head restraints and employ a narrow main section combined with the shoulder bolsters. In the United States, the base model will feature a 6,5-inch display, while the flagship gains an 8,8-inch touchscreen arrangement.

The new Toyota Supra is expected in South Africa in the second quarter of 2019 and will be assembled by Magna Steyr in Graz, Austria.

https://www.carmag.co.za/news/the-wait-is-over-new-toyota-supra-finally-officially-revealed/

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2020 Toyota Supra Finally Goes Official

After what feels like an eternity of teasers, the eagerly anticipated Toyota Supra has finally been officially revealed. We can share all the official details and confirm that it is coming to South Africa.

Fans of the Toyota Supra can finally breathe. After 17 years, the all-new Mk 5 Toyota Supra has been officially revealed at the 2019 Detroit Auto Show. Based on the outrageous FT-1 concept from 2016, this new Toyota Supra looks bold and aggressive, which should keep petrolheads happy.

For those who aren't aware, the 2020 Toyota Supra is a result of the Japanese brand and German brand BMW working together. The Germans created the new BMW Z4 and while there are mechanical similarities, the two cars are quite different in execution.

Under that curvy and striking body is a 3.0-litre twin-scroll turbocharged 6-cylinder motor. It produces 250 kW and 495 Nm. Power goes to the rear wheels via an 8-speed automatic transmission and Toyota claims that it's offering will hit 100 kph in just 4.1 seconds.

It's the under-the-skin details which have us interested. Toyota is claiming a 50/50 weight distribution, high structural rigidity, and a low center of gravity which should make for an entertaining drive. While the platform is shared with BMW, Toyota tuned the spring and shock absorber settings for the new double-joint spring strut front suspension and multi-link rear suspension. Toyota also set specific parameters for the Supra's stability control system performance. Adaptive Variable Suspension is standard and features 2 modes: Normal and Sport.

Toyota is marketing its new Supra as a premium Grand Tourer and there will be considerable premium features fitted like Keyless Smart Entry, dual automatic climate control, auto-dimming rearview mirrors, rear camera, rain sensor windshield wipers, garage door opener, power folding mirrors, and a leather-wrapped steering wheel will be standard. There will be high-end multimedia setup, satellite navigation, Apple CarPlay as well as a JBL audio system, but we're going to wait for official local confirmation to see what SA-spec Supras will receive in terms of tech.

The latest safety features will be fitted too and these range from forward collision warning, automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection, lane departure warning with steering assist, automatic high beam and road sign assist. Toyota claims there will be additional features such as adaptive full speed cruise control, blind spot monitor, rear cross traffic alert and rear-end collision warning.

The 5th generation Toyota Supra will come in various levels of trim and while it hasn't been officially confirmed, there are talks of 4-cylinder turbo motors too. We're hoping that the similarities between the new Supra and the new Z4 are just on paper, and the two are completely different animals to drive.

https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/2020-toyota-supra-finally-goes-official/45980/
 
Just saw Shmee's video. Love the car.. hopefully doesn't come in at Mustang prices but really gorgeous car.
 
Toyota's SA-bound Supra finally revealed in all its glory

And here it is… Following a series of leaks and a teaser campaign stretching back to the beginning of time, Toyota has finally revealed the all-new Supra in its official, showroom-ready form and local fans don’t have long to wait, with the reincarnated sports car set to hit South African streets around the middle of 2019.

The Toyota GR Supra is the Gazoo Racing division’s first global product and as you surely know by now, the two-seater shares its chassis and engines with the BMW Z4 - in fact, it’ll also roll off the same production line in Graz, Austria.

However, it appears that the engine options will differ by region. The European press material, for instance, only mentions the 3-litre straight six turbopetrol, good for 250kW and 500Nm and, with launch control activated, a (claimed) 0-100km/h time of just 4.3 seconds.

The Japanese website meanwhile also lists a 2-litre, four-cylinder motor, offered in two output levels - 190kW/400Nm and 145kW/320Nm - with respective 0-100km/h times of 5.2 and 6.5 seconds.

All versions power the back wheels through an eight-speed automatic gearbox - no mention of a manual shifter as yet, but there are surely many fans out there that are about to start petitioning for one.

The Z4, given its mechanical layout and low, wide stance, was quite possibly the best ‘donor car’ that Toyota could have hoped for to do true justice to the Supra’s heritage, but Toyota has also infused plenty of its own flavour into the design and feel of the car, although we can’t actually vouch for the later until we’ve driven it.

The Supra’s striking design, which remains faithful to the dramatic FT-1 concept of 2014, shares nothing with the Beemer and is sure to turn heads with its double-bubble roof, muscular rear wings and massive, arching lip spoiler.

Yet the Supra was ultimately designed around dynamic ambitions and to that end boasts a perfect 50:50 front to rear weight distribution as well as structural rigidity that’s said to surpass even the Lexus LFA. Also aiding that cornering cause is an active differential, fitted to all European models, which can seamlessly adjust from zero to full, 100 percent lock, and the vehicle’s stability control system has a ‘track’ mode that minimises interference.

There are plenty of racing vibes in the cockpit, whose layout was influenced by single-seater race cars, although it does in fact accommodate two lucky occupants, who sit on race-style bucket seats with integrated headrests.

Other features include a 22.3cm digital instrument display with 3D-effect rev counter, head-up display and a 22.3cm infotainment system which can be operated via the touch-screen or a rotary controller - it’s basically iDrive with some Toyota flavour.

The boot, says Toyota, is suitable for two people’s weekend luggage, but it can also extend into the back of the cabin via a removable panel - do that, and you can also fit a golf bag, says Toyota. Not that we’d be thinking much of golf if we had the keys to this one.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/late...ra-finally-revealed-in-all-its-glory-18813060
 
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Nah man, that is 99% BMW.
Its a nice car by itself but why throw away the heritage.
 
Think it's quite funny how they haven't even bothered removing the BMW badges from the engine bay. But also quite sad, because every time you open the bonnet, you'll know you're just driving a Z4. RIP Supra :(
 
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The Lowest Four-Cylinder 2020 Toyota Supra Gets 194 HP, Less Than the 86

The 2020 Toyota Supra is out now and now we get to dissect all the strange things about it with certainty. For instance: The lowest-spec Supra has a four-cylinder with less power than the controversial Toyota 86.

As we know, under the skin the new Supra is basically a BMW, a BMW Z4 to be exact. So in addition to getting the BMW’s B58-code 3.0-liter straight six, Toyota will also put in the sister engine to that, the B48 four-cylinder.

It’s part of the same engine architecture that also includes the B38 three-cylinder, and the B48 is kind of like a B58 with two fewer cylinders.

Toyota just put up the full specs of the Supra for the Japanese market on its dedicated Supra site and one number on the right will stick out to car nerds everywhere. The lowest-spec Supra will come with 197 PS. That’s about 194 horsepower as we measure it converting from metric to standard. The more powerful four puts out 255 HP.

Still, the lower-powered one leaves a lot to be desired. Even going off of Japanese specs as listed on the car’s Japanese wiki, the Toyota 86 makes more power, at 207 PS, or 204 HP.

Be advised these aren’t for the U.S.-spec cars, and we don’t even know what the four-cylinder’s power will be here, but this is what other markets are getting. Our guess is America will only get the 255 HP one.

If you’re hoping that the Supra makes up for this with even less weight, I have bad news. That basest-of-base Supra comes in at a claimed 1,410 kilos, or 3,108 pounds. Even the heaviest 86 is a spry 2,800 lbs.

The wheelbase on the Supra is shorter as well (97 vs 101 in), though the full car is longer (172 vs 168 in). Toyota at least claims that the center of gravity is lower on the Supra than the 86. Below is as close to a comparo as I could get, though it’s a bit tricky.

All in all, it’s odd that the Supra, most famous for producing huge power figures with its old indestructible 2JZ, will be available with less raw performance than a car lambasted since 2012 for not having enough grunt. I’ve driven one of the Toyobaru Twins and I never found it lacking in power—it remains a Jalopnik staff favorite all around—but it’s still funny that the Supra is a byword for big boost, big numbers.

Where it’s really hard to parse things out is that not all that long ago Toyota was talking about a three-model sports car lineup. If the lowest-spec Supra is roughly on par with the 86, a car that’s been around since 2012, you start to wonder if the Supra is replacing that car in the lineup. And if it is, will Toyota be making two other new sports cars to fill out its desired three, or is it falling back on its plan? Why isn’t this four-cylinder Supra just called the Celica?

https://jalopnik.com/the-lowest-four-cylinder-2020-toyota-supra-gets-194-hp-1831734785

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Think it's quite funny how they haven't even bothered removing the BMW badges from the engine bay. But also quite sad, because every time you open the bonnet, you'll know you're just driving a Z4. RIP Supra :(
Yip, never thought I'd see the day when the engine from another car was put into a Supra. It's always been the other way around.

It's like Mazda releasing an RX-7 without a rotary, but something from Mercedes...
 
Nah man, that is 99% BMW.
Its a nice car by itself but why throw away the heritage.

Money, it is an all-important partnership. They did the same by partnering with Subaru and they worked with Yamaha on the LFA. No need to reinvent the wall, they tuned it and shaped it.

I agree with this article,

https://www.motortrend.com/news/why-toyota-supra-bmw-z4-partnership-makes-sense-the-lohdown/

WHY TOYOTA’S SUPRA-Z4 PARTNERSHIP WITH BMW MAKES SENSE - THE LOHDOWN

Arguably, Toyota needed the best straight six available, and BMW has a very good track record with theirs and regularly dominates the top on Wards.
 
Money, it is an all-important partnership. They did the same by partnering with Subaru and they worked with Yamaha on the LFA. No need to reinvent the wall, they tuned it and shaped it.

I agree with this article,

https://www.motortrend.com/news/why-toyota-supra-bmw-z4-partnership-makes-sense-the-lohdown/



Arguably, Toyota needed the best straight six available, and BMW has a very good track record with theirs and regularly dominates the top on Wards.
NO-ONE has a problem with crossovers/partnerships, I'm sure. The 86/BRZ, and other examples, all produced interesting and exciting cars. The issue Supra fanboys (and I'm one of them) have with this is that they haven't just come up with a concept from scratch and shared a platform with another car - they've literally ripped out the soul and taken the name of a legend and slapped it onto an entirely different brand. It'd be the same if Volkswagen suddenly decided to release a "Countach". Possibly a bad example, as VW own Lamborghini, but you catch my drift.

Is it a bad car? Would I refuse to drive it if someone gave me one? Absolutely not. But don't expect me to accept that this is a Toyota Supra - because it will never be anything more than a Z4 with a Japanese bodykit.
 
The 2020 Toyota Supra Emblem Is This Close to the Old One

I know–call me out for gratuitous 2020 Toyota Supra blogging here. But when I noticed that the new Supra’s emblem looks like the one from the famous MKIV of the ’90s, I just had to examine how similar the two are.

The 2020 Supra emblem typeface was made from scratch “and the new ‘S’ is based on a turn at Nurburgring.”
As you can see from the picture above, with the two emblems scaled similarly for easiest comparison, the answer is... I don’t know, medium similar?

Both the new fifth-generation and last Supra’s “Supra” are written in a kind of brush script-looking typeface, but the new one is much tidier.

As to what typeface is being used exactly, the font of the old emblem is a popular topic of debate on Supra forms. Most of the threads I found included at least one “not another font thread” comment. Heck, the Supra MKV forum was already comparing the old and new ones over the summer.

I did find one thread where somebody was making their own, using a combination of Brush Script MT and Script English with some Photoshopping to get the rest of the way. But it seems to be that the typeface was custom created by Toyota, and not something you can download off the rack anywhere.

That’s the case with the new logo. A Toyota spokesperson told me that the 2020 Supra emblem typeface was made from scratch “and the new ‘S’ is based on a turn at Nurburgring.” Hell yeah, I live for automotive information you can file under Mildly Interesting and if you do too you’re welcome.

The company’s rep did not immediately answer the inevitable follow-up question of “which turn;” I’m hoping a Nurburgring super fan out there somewhere will see this post and enlighten us in the comments.

So unfortunately I can’t give you a font to download for your Supra emblem tattoo stencil or whatever. But I can tell you that the old badge is Toyota part number 7544314180, and the new one is Toyota part number 51147497931! And now we know that the two badges are not exactly the same, even though they look extremely similar at a casual glance.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-toyota-supra-emblem-is-this-close-to-the-old-o-1831748538

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This car will fade as quickly as a kardashian. Will have a huge hype and like the 86 sell in small numbers and fade away. I will stick to the 90s supra or gtr versions.
 
So any guesses on the SA retail price? I'm going with R1.1 Million.
 
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