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Supra legacy thread & for the anticipation of the all new A90 Supra/

How the Supra became Toyota’s sports car of destiny

Toyota’s much anticipated new Supra will go on sale locally by mid-2019 and for many South Africans, the opportunity to own – or even see – a Supra should prove treasured.

The iconic Toyota sports car has a mythical status and for much of its lifecycle, through four generations, it has been mostly absent from the local market.

Legend in its own right

Despite this, the Supra legend features strongly in the memory of South African petrolheads and much of the credit for that is due to a particularly orange Supra. The one which captured imaginations in the "Fast & Furious" movie franchise.

The introduction of fifth-generation Supra to South Africa will finally give Toyota a moderate output sportscar in the local market. And in anticipation of that, we’ll help you understand how Supra went from a bigger, wider Celica with a larger engine, to one of the most respected sportscars of the 1990s.

The original (A40 series)

There is some debate as to whether Toyota’s 2000GT qualifies for the status as Supra 1.0, but in the correct series organogram, the first Supra was quite an unassuming coupé. A more powerful version of the Celica liftback.

It launched in 1978 and the conservative design and powertrain configuration was obviously influenced by a decade of successive fuel crisis moments during the 1970s.

Curiously, the largest engines offered were not the most powerful. First-generation Supra features three in-line six engines, ranging from 2- to 2.8-litres.

Strangely, the 2-litre was good for 92kW and Supra’s 2.8, made a bit less power, at 87kW. They might not have been massively powerful cars but these original Supras anchored the heritage, with those driver’s car principles of rear-wheel drive and an in-line six-cylinder engine as non-negotiables.

Poppin-up (A60 series)

Wedge-shaped in profile and featuring pop-up headlights the styling was perfectly representative of everything we remember from early 1980s car design. Second-generation Supra used no less than five engine options during its product cycle from 1981-1986.

The most powerful version was a 133kW 2.8-litre, introduced for towards the end of A50’s product lifecycle. Combining Toyota reliability with Lotus-tuned suspension, this was a great day-to-day commuter which could effortlessly transform into a driver’s car when required.

The Supra goes alone (A70 series)

This was the Supra which carried the nameplate from the radical 1980s to consolidating early 1990s. Japan’s economy was booming and with abundant resources and a desire for motorsport recognition, engineers were given ample budgets to make the third-generation Supra a true performance car.

Whereas the Supra name had thus far denoted a more powerful Celica, the A70 series saw a distinct separation between the model lines. It also heralded the first application of turbocharging, which enabled Supra to start rivalling European and American coupés for pace. Power gradually increased until final versions boosted an impressive 206kW – which was the maximum allotted power output for a Japanese car.

Toyota kept the best Supras for its domestic market customers, with the 206kW capable modes being 1992 JZA engined cars, powered by a paralleled turbocharged 2.5-litre inline six.

The movie icon (A80 series)

The car which initially saddened Supra fans when it launched, due to the bubble shape and absence of pop-up headlights, but quickly became a legend.
If you believe that Japanese performance car dominance peaked in the late 1990s, A80 Supra is all the evidence required to substantiate that notion.

This was a Supra which was built to rival the Porsche 911 and with a 206kW 3-litre engine and enormous rear wing, it certainly had the means to.
What defined the fourth-generation Supra most of all was what was hidden beneath that power dome bonnet.

The 2JZ Toyota engine code has become fabled for its ability to run incredible tuning kits on standard factory supplied internals. Power ratings of 500kW were easily achievable due to the inherent strength of the 2JZ’s structure.

Unlike most other movie cars, the A80 street racing Supra’s dramatic role in the Fast&Furious was based more on fact than the imagination of a scriptwriter.

https://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Gui...became-toyotas-sports-car-of-destiny-20181002

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Toyota Confirms Manual Gearbox Developed For Right-Hand Drive Supra

Toyota has confirmed the development of a manual transmission for the forthcoming Supra. While this is great news for hard-core enthusiasts, there is a drawback that will leave some devastated, especially those in the US of A.

According to assistant chief engineer Masayuki Kai, who had a word with Car Advice during a recent test of a Supra prototype, the team has developed a manual gearbox for the latest iteration of Toyota’s iconic sports car. Kai also stated that while the matter hasn’t been finalised, the stick shift developed is exclusively for right-hand drive cars.

“We have developed it, yes, there is hardware ready. Right-hand drive? Yes, of course. It needs to be sold in Japan, which is a right-hand drive market,” the boss engineer said. Furthermore, it is most likely to happen that other right-hand drive markets such as South Africa and the UK will subsequently be graced with the “DIY” transmission, and this comes after it was said that chances of the Supra getting a stick shift were slim.

In addition to the luxury of choosing between a manual and automatic transmission, Toyota’s latest-generation Supra will also be offered in two engine variants. There will be a relatively small four-cylinder engine that’s expected to produce around 260 hp (193 kW). While this should pack enough punch for some, there will be a bigger engine with a significant addition in power.

Those who aren’t particularly impressed by the sound of a 260 hp Supra should be happy to hear that the Japanese sports car will also feature a BMW-derived 3.0-litre six-cylinder turbocharged engine that’s good for around 335 hp (250 kW). While an eight-speed automatic transmission will come as standard, a manual gearbox paired with this powerplant would be run of the mill.

https://www.zero2turbo.com/2018/10/...box-developed-for-right-hand-drive-supra.html
 
2019 Toyota Supra confirmed for Detroit motor show reveal

The covers will at last come off Toyota's returning sports car at the Detroit motor show in January 2019

The returning Toyota Supra will be revealed at the Detroit motor show in January, the company has confirmed.

Deliveries of the new sports car will begin soon after, Toyota added in a short release, with the first cars due to be seen in the first half of next year.

The Supra name will be back on a Toyota sports car for first time since 2002, development of this all-new model having taken place alongside the new BMW Z4. Development started in 2012 as one of a series of projects between Toyota and BMW.

Power comes from a BMW-sourced 3.0-litre straight-six engine with around 340bhp and 350lb ft. Drive is send to the rear wheels through an eight-speed Zf automatic transmission.

The Supra, which also features a BMW M Active limited-slip differential, weighs around 1500kg and has a 50:50 weight distribution, its body constructed of a blend of steel and aluminium.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2019-toyota-supra-pictures-performance-on-sale-date

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LibeRebil review of the A60 Supra


Calvins car.
Cant recall if I posted this here, a cruise we did last year. The A60 is his and the A70 mine.

Still think the A70 is the most iconic out of the lot, the sleek lines and wide arches, the pop-up lights, oh oh and electronic lumbar support (in an 80's car!) Cruise control, Turbo power, Electronic Suspension (DID I MENTION IN THE 80's!).
One thing, if the A90 does not come in the targa top option, it will be a bitter disappointment!
 
Finally! Toyota Supra to be revealed in January

Quite possibly the world’s most ‘teased’ car ever, the all-new Toyota Supra is finally set to be uncovered in full, but fans will have to wait another two months to see the new sports car.

Toyota has confirmed that the Supra will make its world debut at the Detroit Motor Show in January, ahead of production commencing in the first half of the year.

The Supra has already been shown to the world in disguised prototype form and many of its technical secrets have been leaked along the way.

Besides the obvious stuff, like the fact that it will share its chassis with BMW’s new Z4 Roadster, it has also emerged that the Toyota coupe will have Bavarian engines beneath its long bonnet.

A leaked document lists BMW’s 250kW 3-litre six-cylinder and 195kW 2-litre four-pot turbopetrols as the sole engine options, both mated to ZF’s eight-speed automatic gearbox.

Best you bolster your savings too if this reincarnated Supra is on your wish list.

In an interview with AutoRai.nl earlier this year, Gerald Killmann of Toyota Europe’s R&D division warned that the new sports car will “not be a cheap car”.

“There will be a clear difference between the GT86 and Supra,” Killmann stated. "The GT86 remains the affordable sports car, the Supra becomes the performance model.”

Toyota South Africa previously confirmed that the Supra was likely to go on sale in South Africa during the first half of 2019.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/late...yota-supra-to-be-revealed-in-january-17714043

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Besides the obvious stuff, like the fact that it will share its chassis with BMW’s new Z4 Roadster, it has also emerged that the Toyota coupe will have Bavarian engines beneath its long bonnet.

A leaked document lists BMW’s 250kW 3-litre six-cylinder and 195kW 2-litre four-pot turbopetrols as the sole engine options, both mated to ZF’s eight-speed automatic gearbox.

Damn, I'd like it to actually be a Japanese car :crying: Especially the engine, so that it would be reliable.
 
New 2019 Toyota Supra: leaked image shows production front end

Forum post of Toyota's new sports car on transporter shows front-end design ahead of Detroit motor show reveal

Toyota has finally confirmed the production Supra will be unveiled at January's Detroit motor show, but an image of the car's front end has already leaked out on an enthusiast forum.

The image, published on a forum dedicated to the new car, shows the Porsche Cayman rival uncovered on a car transporter. It's not clear if the original source is a Toyota employee or somebody contracted to transport the model.

Appearing to be the final production car intended to be revealed to the world next month, it shows the revived Supra's front-end design will stay broadly in line with the previous concept and prototypes. Deliveries of the new sports car will begin soon after the Detroit reveal, Toyota has confirmed, with the first cars due to be seen in the first half of next year.

The Supra name will be back on a Toyota sports car for first time since 2002, development of this model having taken place alongside the new BMW Z4. Development started in 2012 as one of a series of projects between Toyota and BMW.

Power comes from a BMW-sourced 3.0-litre straight-six engine with around 340bhp and 350lb ft. Drive is sent to the rear wheels through an eight-speed ZF automatic transmission.

The Supra, which also features a BMW M Active limited-slip differential, weighs around 1500kg and has a 50:50 weight distribution, its body constructed of a blend of steel and aluminium.

The model's lengthy gestation period has led to a series of leaks and drip-feed of information in the build-up to its hotly anticipated launch.

Previous images that surfaced on a parts catalogue site published to the SupraMkV.com forums show three different wheel sizes for three different specs, as well as the availability of turbocharged four-cylinder and six-cylinder engines.

Full styling of the car is not revealed in the images, but key elements such as the front lights, bumper, dashboard with digital instrument display, rear bumper and splitter are shown separately, giving more hints as to what the car will look like. It will also feature the distinctive, script-like Supra logo seen on the previous-generation car.

Chief engineer for the project, Tetsuya Tada, previously told Autocar at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, where the car made its dynamic debut, some of the tech specs of the new model.

“I can’t disclose specific figures, but the output of this engine is on a par with that which we have with the F-Series from Lexus,” Tada said. The RC-F and GS-F make 389lb ft. He continued: “But you can imagine from seeing it that the car is light and compact – its wheelbase is even shorter than the GT86’s. It’s around 200-300kg lighter than the F-Series [which weighs around 1700-1800kg].”

The Supra's expected 1500kg makes it 250kg heavier than the GT86 and 14kg lighter than the fourth-generation Supra, which went out of production in 2002. This would also make the car 14kg lighter than a PDK-equipped Porsche 911 Carrera S, with which the Supra's expected 0-62mph time of 3.8sec would make it most comparable.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2019-toyota-supra-pictures-performance-on-sale-date

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Toyota GB launches limited edition Supra wrapping paper

Toyota GB is helping to raise funds for Crisis UK’s Christmas charity appeal with a limited edition seasonal wrapping paper inspired by its all-new Supra sports car.

The paper, produced in a limited run of just 500 rolls, has the same camouflage body wrap design that has adorned the Supra prototype since its first appearance at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in the summer. The dazzle pattern features the red, white and black colours of Toyota Gazoo Racing and a subtle A90 reference that enthusiasts will recognise as the new car’s chassis code.

The price is £5.00 for four sheets of paper (each sheet is 695x1000mm). All proceeds will go to Crisis UK, the national charity for homeless people, to support its Crisis at Christmas programme. Please note that this offer is only available in the UK.

The all-new Toyota Supra is one of the most keenly anticipated new model introductions for 2019, marking the return of the most famous name from Toyota’s sports car heritage. It has already provoked great excitement among motorists keen to experience a car that is focused purely on driving pleasure. Their appetite has been whetted by the car’s scene-stealing appearances in prototype form this year at the Geneva Motor Show and Goodwood Festival of Speed, and by glowing reviews from the first journalists to drive it.

Order reservations for the new Toyota Supra are being taken now through Toyota’s national consumer website, or through local Toyota retailer web pages, using the My Toyota app.

https://blog.toyota.co.uk/toyota-gb...ion-supra-wrapping-paper#.XBdx1tV3e8Q.twitter


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Hear the new Toyota Supra’s (BMW-sourced) engine in action

Toyota’s lengthy teaser campaign for its new Supra continues. The latest bit of information? A short video revealing exactly what the upcoming sportscar’s (BMW-sourced) inline six-cylinder engine sounds like (hear it in the clip below).

Posted to YouTube by the Japanese automaker’s European arm, the 30-second clip gives us a taste of the soundtrack served up by the turbocharged 3,0-litre six-cylinder unit under full throttle.

This very engine, of course, is already employed by the new BMW Z4 M40i roadster (with which the Supra shares its underpinnings) as well as the M340i sedan.

When we drove a Supra prototype in Spain in September 2018, we learned from Toyota that its version of this powerplant would make “more than” 224 kW and around 450 N.m (the Z4 M40i, meanwhile, makes 250 kW and 500 N.m).

The new Supra is scheduled to finally be fully revealed at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit on 14 January 2019. Expect it to arrive in South Africa in the second quarter of the year.

https://www.carmag.co.za/news/hear-the-new-toyota-supras-bmw-sourced-engine-in-action/

 
2019 Toyota Supra: This Might Finally Be It?

It’s hard to fathom that somehow, the new Toyota Supra still isn’t out. And by that I mean not only is it not on sale, it hasn’t even “officially” been “revealed” yet. This, after years of rumors, renders, spy shots, concepts and even camouflaged prototype cars that we ourselves have driven! But the latest batch of photos could reveal the real thing at last. Is anyone surprised anymore, and do you still care?

Over on the always plugged-in Supra MKV Forum, several users reported signing up for updates on the car with Toyota Germany and then getting an email with these photos in response.

Are these official pics of the actual car at last? That’s hard to say, and several folks over there have expressed doubts. I have mine too, considering this would be the dumbest leak ever if it came direct from Toyota that way. But why would an official Toyota account put out a rendering at all? What’s the thought process there? (For whatever it’s worth, I signed up for the same email a few hours later and did not get these pics. I got more shots of the car in camo.)

The background does have the same stony gray setup as the official GR Supra Racing Concept photos that dropped a while back, so there’s that.
So no, we don’t know if these pics are legit or not. What we can say is this: The new Supra will almost certainly look like this car, because after eight billion other renderings and concepts and leaks and what have you, we know what it looks like by now. There’s no surprises here, and I don’t expect any when the car “officially” drops at the Detroit Auto Show in a couple weeks.

The way this thing has been drawn out, it makes the second-gen Acura NSX look like a total shock to the world.

https://jalopnik.com/2019-toyota-supra-this-might-finally-be-it-1831365128

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Hey Did You Know the Toyota Supra Is Back

The debut of the 2019 Toyota Supra is 12 days away, but that doesn’t mean Toyota is stopping its unnecessarily long and excitement-numbing campaign of Supra teasers. In a new one from Monday, Toyota Gazoo Racing shared a video of the Supra lapping Fuji Speedway that ended with the tagline “Supra Is Back.”

No ****, Toyota. We would have never guessed.

The Toyota Gazoo Racing video is even titled the “Supra Is Back Teaser,” which, again, duh. The 12,345 teasers and camouflaged test drives prior to this might have hinted at that, and we all learned Toyota was building a new Supra nearly a year ago. But at least the laps from Mt. Fuji in Japan sound nice and majestic, as a sole Supra’s headlights look to be the only ones lighting up the track.

Other than the questions of why we haven’t seen the new Supra yet, why Toyota insists on teasing it at a rate of what feels like three times per day, and why this whole thing has taken so long, the only thing we have left to wonder about this video is whether the car at Mt. Fuji is the road Supra or a race version. The race cars are also plagued by never-ending shadowy teasers, so, they’re basically the same thing as the production version.

(That last part was a joke. They’re not the same, and this is probably a race car, hence the upload from the Toyota race team.)

As the number of Toyota Supra teasers nears the number of crossovers on the American market, we’re somehow also nearing the date of the Supra’s debut—hopefully the real one, this time—at the Detroit Auto Show on Jan. 14. It’s hard to believe it’s the real thing, considering that the car’s fifth generation has been all about teasing us into oblivion, and past the point of calling it a “tease,” for longer than we want to remember. It’s like a big, over-the-top gender-reveal party, except with months of teasers about what the gender will be beforehand.

That sounds even worse, somehow.

But the reveal date is almost here, which means Toyota won’t be able to “tease” the new Supra much longer and our national nightmare will likely soon be over. With how this whole thing has gone, though, Toyota will probably still find a way to tease the Supra after it’s out.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-toyota-supra-teasers-have-resorted-to-telling-1831430328


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Am I the only one incredibly disappointed with this?!

The 2jz engine is still possibly one of the most iconic, strong, reliable engines EVER. Not to mention the potential it has with a few aftermarket parts.

Now Toyota comes with a BMW engine!? Sies man! Tsek!

The B58 BMW engine is not a bad by any means, but where is the innovation, the insanity? I was really hoping for a 2jz 2.0
 
Am I the only one incredibly disappointed with this?!

The 2jz engine is still possibly one of the most iconic, strong, reliable engines EVER. Not to mention the potential it has with a few aftermarket parts.

Now Toyota comes with a BMW engine!? Sies man! Tsek!

The B58 BMW engine is not a bad by any means, but where is the innovation, the insanity? I was really hoping for a 2jz 2.0
Just seems a bit meh. Like what they did with the 86/BRZ. Could've been two amazing standalone products, but instead we got a RWD Subaru and well, the 86.
 
Is it just me or does it look a little short? Like they had to squish all the FT-1 design features into a small footprint.

I think it needs a longer wheelbase.

Doesn't matter anyway, because I can't afford a R1.2 million Toyota.
 
I think if people slate this car because it doesnt have a 2jz... bla bla bla, is missing the point. Fact of the matter is, Toyota doesnt really do the every day hot hatch (at the moment)... but when they do decide to do a performance car, they do a damn good job.

Case and point,
GT86, no better sports coupe at that value with the balance and fun.
Gazoo Racing Yaris... no better performance supermini
Supra... we will have to wait and see?
 
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