The true Eskom electricity export figures

zambussi said:
You know there's an easy way to resolve this problem.

Take all the unemployed, put them on bicycles that are fixed on a treadmill (make sure to cement them in place so they don't get stolen) and let them cycle to generate power. They should do this in Zim, then they would have something to export again other than Zimbabweans.........................
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The problem with the unemployed is that they don't really want to be employed. Offer one with a "no job, six kids" sign a session in your garden - result is that sign at the traffic light is his job, and he gets more money much easier that way.
They should rather put up a wind farm outside parliament as that is it's most consistently (also high availability) by product. It actually outperforms it's intended product.
 
dionb said:
and he gets more money much easier that way.
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Do not give these people anything! (Not you - I reckon you don't).
But some people do - be it from a misguided sense of charity, or racial guilt - I do not know. But they are a nuisance, they endanger themselves and others, and they lead to crime. We become so used to seeing them, that we do not "see" the smash and grabber until too late.
Ditto for "robot vendors".
 
pkid said:
Eskom. At least my phone line/ADSL works...
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At least while Telkom has backup capacity.... Or until a happy camper from you nearby informal settlement needs copper to sell to feed his thirsty generator:D
 
Quite correct, broadly speaking. Mine has not been nationalised/contributed yet.... though. (sigh of relief).
Off the subject - did you see the South African google map?? Classic.
If not, pm and I'll send it.
 
Eskom sells spare capacity

Eskom sells mainly spare capacity (when it has it), all it's contract with neighboring countries allow it to cut the supply if there is no extra power to sell. But no where in the article does it show how much Eskom imports from these neighbouring countries which is more than the figure that it exports (Eskom is a net import of electricity).

PS. SA does have spare capacity at night or early hours of the morning when demand is down, maybe you people need to spend the wee hours of the morning working instead of lazying around in bed :p.
 
When we have spare at night, the demand at our neighbours will also be very low, will they NEED our surplus product at that time ? Being not as industrialised as S.A. (maybe asleep from around 23:00) ...... ???
 
They mentioned they sold electricity to Zim, I was under the impression is was given to them for free? What did they sell? Us down the river?
 
Read on news24 that Zim's consumption for Nov'06 is still unpaid for. Seems Eskom now asking for shares in Zim Elec Supply Authority as "payment" ?!!!!?
Now aint that like paying a restaurant for a meal with your ....... a day later ??

*sorry*
 
Slooth said:
They mentioned they sold electricity to Zim, I was under the impression is was given to them for free? What did they sell? Us down the river?
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I wonder in which currency - and at what exchange rate.
Probably paid us in 1999 rated Zim$
 
The advance payment method was just started this month apparently. Something like 1500 mW they pay in advance for.
 
Orin - what other nice snippets of inside infomation do you have? Information is power! (eeerrmmm .... cant use the word "power" )
 
abjater said:
Orin - what other nice snippets of inside infomation do you have? Information is power! (eeerrmmm .... cant use the word "power" )
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I wouldn't exactly call that inside info. In any event, I don't understand electrical power systems so I wouldn't know a juicy piece of info if I heard it.
 
Gambit317z said:
Eskom sells mainly spare capacity (when it has it), all it's contract with neighboring countries allow it to cut the supply if there is no extra power to sell. But no where in the article does it show how much Eskom imports from these neighbouring countries which is more than the figure that it exports (Eskom is a net import of electricity).

PS. SA does have spare capacity at night or early hours of the morning when demand is down, maybe you people need to spend the wee hours of the morning working instead of lazying around in bed :p.
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I'm already working 18 hours/day, of which I'm losing around 3 hours to power cuts and anything up to 3 hours of work on each computer on the bench when the power fails. I don't have any more hours to work!! I do need to sleep! Since most of my customer-base work normal hours it does not help to try and sleep in the day and work at night - I've tried that, would you believe? All I ended up doing was fielding phone calls all day and working all night. I'm sorry but I need my sleep - might work for some though, depending on their business.
 
It was mention 2 days ago that besides the current increase of 14% there will be subsequent increases for the price of electricity. But government can hand over huge sums of cash to bail out SAA, and I can think of 3 instances I can recall(Coleman Andrews, and 2 episodes within recent years). Personally I don't understand why a government owned national carrier is needed. There are numerous airline services that are available.

To sum up, why doesn't government provide the cash its already taken from me with my taxes and spend on short term(costly) fixes, as opposed to increase the price of electricity and income taxes?
 
Gambit317z said:
Eskom sells mainly spare capacity (when it has it), all it's contract with neighboring countries allow it to cut the supply if there is no extra power to sell. But no where in the article does it show how much Eskom imports from these neighbouring countries which is more than the figure that it exports (Eskom is a net import of electricity).
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Finally, an informed post..

..pulling the plug on the neighboring countries has a far bigger impact on the South African economy than some of these foolish, uniformed and incompetent forumers realize or are aware of....
 
the graduate said:
Finally, an informed post..

..pulling the plug on the neighboring countries has a far bigger impact on the South African economy than some of these foolish, uniformed and incompetent forumers realize or are aware of....
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So inform us.
 
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