The Unrest in Egypt Thread 2013

F1 Fan said:
I havent read much on this, but why are the people against him again? Other than the fact tht he has appointed fellow muslims in his cabinet(Shouldnt happen, appointments should be made on merit).
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Shariah law.

They wanted democracy, they wanted the dictator gone. He was bad he was the reason they were struggling. Now they want a new president and i agree they need a new one, shariah law is horrible and unacceptable.

Iran are not wrong that in a democracy you need to respect the process. Shariah law is the driving force behind them wanting him gone and good, let the military take over and sort things out. These dumb asses who want to force religion on their people must leave.

Alan i wasn't laughing at the people i was laughing because people think democracy is easy and you will get the right president and people in power. I am in full support of this morsi ******* resigning and i am happy the people are ensuring they don't get stuck with shariah law.
 
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Egyptian Press Predicts Morsi's Ouster or Resignation

Egyptian newspapers predicted Wednesday would be the day of President Mohamed Morsi's departure despite the Islamist leader's refusal to step down as an army deadline loomed.

"Today: Ouster or Resignation," read the front-page headline of the state-owned mass circulation daily Al-Ahram.

"The End," declared the independent daily Al-Watan, in headlines echoed by most other government-owned or independent papers.

In a speech televised early Wednesday, Morsi vowed to stay on as Egypt's first democratically elected president and said the only alternative to his legitimacy was bloodshed.

His defiant remarks came hours before the expiry of a deadline set by the army calling on Morsi to find a solution to the crisis or face an imposed army roadmap.

"Egypt will be back within hours," read the independent daily Al-Masry al-Youm, while Al-Shorouk talked of "the disintegration of the Brotherhood state" in reference to the powerful Islamist movement from which Morsi hails.

Egypt is divided between Morsi's Islamist supporters and a broad-based opposition which took to the streets in their millions on Sunday calling on him to go.

Since coming to power a year ago, Morsi has battled with the judiciary, the media and the police.

On Tuesday, he was further isolated after his foreign minister led a string of cabinet resignations. The spokesmen for the presidency and the cabinet also resigned.

Morsi's speech sparked deadly violence in Cairo in which 16 people were killed and at least 200 wounded, as fears mounted of more unrest.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 03 Jul 2013 09:59
 
EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton called for "restraint" and political dialogue in Egypt on Wednesday while offering condolences for those killed as fresh violence rocked the capital.

"Confrontation cannot be a solution," Ashton said in a statement. "The solution to the present impasse can only be political on the basis of a substantial and inclusive dialogue."

Welcoming the peaceful conduct of most protests so far, Ashton said continuing sexual abuse of female protesters was "deeply troubling".

"I urge all sides to show restraint and reiterate my call to respect the principle of peaceful protest and non-violence," she said, offering "deepest condolences" to the families of those killed in the protests.

Egypt's President Mohamed Morsi vowed on Tuesday he would not quit despite mass protests demanding his resignation and an army ultimatum.

Hours after his speech, the government reported that unidentified gunman had killed 16 people and wounded about 200 more after opening fire on a rally of his supporters in Cairo.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 03 Jul 2013 08:46
 
Tanks massing on or near the golan heights, not sure if that is coordinated with israel but i am sure it is.

Basically morsi must step down or the army will take over and remove him. They will not kill their own people, they refused when muburak demanded it but they knew killing people won't change anything. They will die for the cause.

Morsi needs to go, well he will go actually and army will be in control. The 22 million who dislike morsi might see reason and stop protesting for the moment, the problem is going to be the pro morsi okes who are more radical i think because they support shariah law. Not sure how the army will contain them but the anti morsi people will be fine when the army forces him out and takes over. At least the army is protecting israel should the conflict turn violent which it will when morsi is forced to leave.

Civil war on the cards and this time it isn't due to western influence or can't be blame on them even though i would love to :D. I am not one of those hard core okes who will try find a way to blame the west. Tough times for egypt but the shariah law supporters must be stopped by the army because those are the more radical of the two sides.
 
killadoob said:
not sure if that is coordinated with israel but i am sure it is.
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LOL :D

Funny grammar aside, this situation is pretty amazing. Looks like Egypt is going to have a second revolution. Has something like this every happened before? (2 revolutions in quick succession I mean)
 
porchrat said:
LOL :D

Funny grammar aside, this situation is pretty amazing. Looks like Egypt is going to have a second revolution. Has something like this every happened before? (2 revolutions in quick succession I mean)
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Happens frequently sometimes even more than 2. The French revolution was basically 4 in quick succession
 
Damn! There goes my surprise for Head Office, was going on a 2nd honeymoon with a cruise down the Nile..... mmmh! perhaps I could send her alone.....:whistle:
 
Alan said:
Happens frequently sometimes even more than 2. The French revolution was basically 4 in quick succession
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Interesting. My knowledge of history is limited. I only took it in high school. Thank you for the information. I perhaps need to look up the details of the French revolution.
 
porchrat said:
Interesting. My knowledge of history is limited. I only took it in high school. Thank you for the information. I perhaps need to look up the details of the French revolution.
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You laugh at my grammar i laugh at your lack of history knowledge :p, i am just kidding porch. You really have made me feel less stupid by accepting i do try but i can't always get it right. Nice discussing something with you without us fighting.

Two revolutions have happened before, the trouble with egypt is it isn't a revolution supported by everyone. Many have the same issues but for the most part revolutions will have a large majority in support and minority against it. In egypt that is not the case. So many morsi protestors, so many anti morsi. There is no way to please both. You remove him the riots begin, you back him the riots begin. The army needs to find a man a popular man who will push for secular rule and it might help but the morsi fans want the harsh laws imposed by morsi for the entire population. There are many supporters of him as well.

Really cannot think of a way to keep both masses calm. One or the other are going to riot and get violent when the army takes over.
 
killadoob said:
You laugh at my grammar i laugh at your lack of history knowledge :p, i am just kidding porch. You really have made me feel less stupid by accepting i do try but i can't always get it right. Nice discussing something with you without us fighting.
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LOL feel free to laugh at my ignorance of history. Heck my post laughing at your bad grammar also happened to contain bad grammar. "every" instead of "ever". We all do it from time to time :p
 
porchrat said:
LOL feel free to laugh at my ignorance of history. Heck my post laughing at your bad grammar also happened to contain bad grammar. "every" instead of "ever". We all do it from time to time :p
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No dude i was only joking about that. I even said i was kidding. I know we are good and no longer fighting so it's chilled. History knowledge means nothing, i don't remember shyte about history most of the time, bad memory so i am often corrected or i check google if i am unsure.
 
The other point of interest, I saw somewhere that the population of Cairo is 34 million people, both sets of protestors would not even make up 5 % of the population, so we ask is the media turning this into a "big" event?
 
Mortymoose said:
The other point of interest, I saw somewhere that the population of Cairo is 34 million people, both sets of protestors would not even make up 5 % of the population, so we ask is the media turning this into a "big" event?
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Have you seen the protestors bro, hundreds and thousands of them, it is crazy there could be as many as a million perhaps more on both side(collectively) but that is unconfirmed, that number is just a figure i have come up with. You can only fit so many people into one place i guess. The place is just filled with bodies bro, check out rt.com they have some stunning pictures as do many networks of the protesters. It looks like a rave with aviici(dj) or however it's spell but 10x more people.

If the population is 35 million, then it is amazing they have a petition signed by 22 million Egyptian people. Wait sorry the population of Cairo, let me fix my mistake quick. Sorry 85 million live in egypt just had to google it i got confused with cairo but 1/4 of the population signed a petition, that is insane, i wonder if there has been a petition signed by that many people before?
 
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