The wealthiest telecoms executives

[technofool]

The amount of hatred (note not anger) that is building up towards these greedy pigs is increasing by the day...

You are right, this hatred and anger is probably contributing to the hijacking and violent crime in this country. That is one way of driving change but the average working man suffers the most because he doesn't have all that money to buy protection.

lol well im canceling my adsl today, thos guys wont get a penny from me. screw telkom mtn vodacom.

Well done guys, we need more righteous indignation. This rubbish will continue until the majority of people decide that it is unacceptable. One guy cancelling his contract is a very small start but we shouldn't have to give up our cell phones and internet connectivity just because of these selfish executives. I think change will come when we make their greedy attitudes and obscene opinions unacceptable.

I am talking about the rotten logic that says "While I was CEO this company made R200million profit so I want 10% of that." That argument is indefensible while other employees earn so little that they can barely keep alive. We need to demand that it is anti-social behaviour to be so unreasonably greedy while other people in your city or country are starving, sleeping in shacks and suffering. All I am saying is that we need to share the salaries more fairly.

Just try being anti-social to one of these greedy executives and see how quickly he loses his humour and pees all over his own shoes. If you sprayed graffiti on the white garden wall of his R20million estate, you will hear him screaming to the local Police and his bud the ward councillor and the local neighbourhood watch and the ADT patrols.

All that brouhaha for a tin of paint and an hour of the gardener's time to paint over the graffiti and yet he will let his striking workers suffer for a week with "no work, no pay" because he doesn't want to pay them an extra 1%. Not really the type of attitude you admire a person.

 

[MidnightWizard]

Balance

There is a difference between "ill gotten gains" and genuine entrepreneurship

There is NO point in hobbling the talented.

One needs to look at each case on its merits.

I can promise you -- there is NO end to what you can do with LARGE ammounts of money.

IF you think that you cannot spend a billion or so then you obviously have NO idea -- NO class -- and NO taste.

There is this quote -- falsely attributed to the great Abe Lincoln

These words are often attributed to Abraham Lincoln, but according to the book They Never Said it: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, & Misleading Attributions, they are not from Lincoln.

The quotes were published in 1942 by William J. H. Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister.
He released a pamphlet titled Lincoln On Limitations, which did include a Lincoln quote, but also added 10 statements written by Boetcker himself.

They were:

1. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
2. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
3. You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
4. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
5. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence.
6. You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
7. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
8. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
9. You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
10 You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves.

People who got the pamphlet thought the 10 statements were written by Lincoln and they have been distributed widely under Lincoln's name.
Source(s):
Boetcker

I heartily agree

Read Ayn Rands -- "Atlas Shrugged"


MW

 

[Lightscribe]

But I believe if these rich capitalist Gods have the influence to bring down communist governments, supporting to elect a presidential candidate.. what would stop them from buying biological weaponry and exterminating people who would like to rebel against the 'capitalist system'.

As long as we remain submissive/slaves we are safe from their wrath. ;D

The capitalists do not need to resort to weapons of mass destruction. Simply removing the investment capital will starve the nation. Zim as an example.

We have still to go through that. The National Democratic Revolution, by the ANC, then violent socialist revolution by SACP.

There is a difference between "ill gotten gains" and genuine entrepreneurship

There is this quote -- falsely attributed to the great Abe Lincoln

MW

All true.

 

[wikus]

WTH does one person do with 34.3 mil per month (in salary and benefits)?!?

That's just sick

 

[technofool]

@ MidnightWizard
I like the way you nail your colours to the mast. I will engage you because I see you are 2 posts away from that magical 1000 post mark.

It is amusing that you seem not to notice the irony of 'heartily agreeing' with a religious man who publishes a pamphlet titled 'Lincoln on Limitations' that contains only 1 Lincoln quote and 10 of his own trite platitudes. Does the dishonesty of the author not bother you?

I won't go into how simplistic those 10 points are but suffice it to say that our man of God has simplified them to the extent that they are now useless.

Point 3 is most relevant to our discussion. In our case the rich are hogging the wealth and refuse to share while the poor suffer. Already the richest 2% of the world control more wealth than all the other 98% of people put together. (World reference)

I'm not saying that we should destroy the wealthy but if they don't want to play nice with the other kids at the party maybe they should be sent to the corner and let some of the other kids have a go at playing with the toys. Share and share alike you selfish little brats.

There is NO point in hobbling the talented.

I don't care how talented an individual is, IF they pose a threat to our society we have a duty to hobble them enough to protect our society.
Greedy, corrupt civil servants and executives pose a threat to the rest of us and we should hold them to account.

 

[mooK]

We hold these truths to be self evident; that all men are created equal...

How has it come to pass that in our society executives have ascended to a point at which their worth exceeds that of a thousand men?

 

[DarkStreet]

There is a difference between "ill gotten gains" and genuine entrepreneurship

There is NO point in hobbling the talented.

One needs to look at each case on its merits.

I can promise you -- there is NO end to what you can do with LARGE ammounts of money.

IF you think that you cannot spend a billion or so then you obviously have NO idea -- NO class -- and NO taste.

There is this quote -- falsely attributed to the great Abe Lincoln



I heartily agree

Read Ayn Rands -- "Atlas Shrugged"


MW

So because some minister made some quotes a few years ago we should treat it as gospel?

I have respect for people who build an empire from the ground up, starting from nothing, Richard Branson is an example of this. I have no time for somebody who simply inherits a fortune or gets it handed on a silver platter, Donald Trump is an example of this. Why should they be respected? Most of the time they've not done a single thing to deserve it.

 

[Belgarath]

Look at these ... ANC henchmen. They became millionaires in a very short space of time. Former white men in political and business positions took decades to accumulate the kind of wealth that some black people claimed in half a decade.

What the ANC powers-that-be don't realize is that the prosperity of a nation relies on a strong middle class. Not the quick emergence of an upper class in the first place.

First a strong black middle class and then, from that will spring a rich upper class. They are doing it the wrong way around.

Years from now, one thing about the ANC will be said: They killed the goose that laid the golden eggs.