The weight loss thread

BouncyNinja said:
My biggest “win” I felt almost immediately was lower to almost no inflammation pain

The downside… having to manage being full of **** , constipation is a struggle, but a combo of black coffee and carrots for breakfast does the trick
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I do well with that, it's easier eating an apple etc for breakfast since the food noise is not shouting about the kid's Coco pops and toast with jam and butter and left overs and nuts and that open packet of niknaks.
 
kolaval said:
I do well with that, it's easier eating an apple etc for breakfast since the food noise is not shouting about the kid's Coco pops and toast with jam and butter and left overs and nuts and that open packet of niknaks.
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Mine is 2 raw carrots, and a black coffee. During the day i have a tub of dry wors / biltong depending on the week( protein? ) and snack on small ( 4cm) pieces as and when i feel nibbly. Evenings chicken breast + veg or Steak + veg for dinner. Stark contrast to before, where i used to ONLY eat dinner, this was a bad habit developed from childhood. My biggest thing now, is i feel hungry, i feel when i have had enough, sensations i never had before
 
kolaval said:
Right, then you're arguing the injections are unhealthy.

I would counter with; the dosage is controlled.

Secondly, you have no concrete stats to prove that muscle mass lost, going from obesity to not overweight, is a significant issue. (Remember, we're talking millions upon millions of dosages of semaglutide, tirzepatide etc having been prescribed in the past ten years).

The health damage of obesity far exceeds any possible muscle loss issues.

Are you a personal trainer or fitness influencer?
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Methinks he is a gymbunny...
 
BouncyNinja said:
if you’ve cracked weight loss with a paragraph of macros and a motivational quote… why are billion-dollar pharmaceutical companies wasting time on GLP-1 research?
Forget Mounjaro you should be a billionaire by now.

Eskom failing?
Economy collapsing?
Obesity epidemic?
No problem we just needed your KG × grams formula.

Honestly, the entire global medical community must feel silly right now.
Decades of peer-reviewed research, endocrinology, metabolic studies, neurohormonal pathways… when all along the secret was:

‘Eat veggies. Don’t be a dog.’

Please, publish this diet ASAP.
Nobel Prize committees love this kind of breakthrough.
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Willpower to change?
Most people are like my mom, looking for a quick fix (fad in other words), telling themselves that they do not have the ability/willpower to affect change in their own behaviour.
And companies are playing to that to line their own pockets.
Sure there are edge cases (either side), but for 80% of the population the above guidance is good enough

This thread seems to have become a 'look at how I beat the system/casino/life' with a simple injection/hack

Go speak to a dietian / nutritionist, and it will come back to how much nutrients/macros you need based on weight. Those I mentioned above are the general gist of that. but yeah, keyboard warrior me! Let's compare body weight scale readings and talk again :)
 
gotaway said:
Willpower to change?
Most people are like my mom, looking for a quick fix (fad in other words), telling themselves that they do not have the ability/willpower to affect change in their own behaviour.
And companies are playing to that to line their own pockets.
Sure there are edge cases (either side), but for 80% of the population the above guidance is good enough

This thread seems to have become a 'look at how I beat the system/casino/life' with a simple injection/hack

Go speak to a dietian / nutritionist, and it will come back to how much nutrients/macros you need based on weight. Those I mentioned above are the general gist of that. but yeah, keyboard warrior me! Let's compare body weight scale readings and talk again :)
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Dietician? Done.
Nutritionist? Done.

If those were the miracle cure, I wouldn’t still be in this thread explaining basic biology. For most of my life I’ve battled with weight not because of a motivational deficit, but because of a biological one. If pure willpower overrode metabolic signaling, endocrinologists would be moonlighting as baristas by now.
Your macro summary is cute, but biology isn’t a Google Sheets tab.
Two people can eat identical calories and end up with completely different outcomes thanks to:
• GLP-1 signalling
• leptin resistance
• insulin response
• resting metabolic rate
• gut–brain feedback loops
• genetics
All the stuff you casually bundled under “willpower.” Telling someone to just “change behavior” is the metabolic equivalent of telling a guy with a snapped femur to “walk it off.”
Inspirational poster energy. Zero scientific grounding.


GLP-1 agonists aren’t “hacks.”
They correct the physiological pathways that make normal hunger and satiety possible instead of turning every day into a cage match with your hypothalamus.
So no, it’s not a shortcut. It’s using the correct medical tool for an actual medical condition.
 
gotaway said:
This thread seems to have become a 'look at how I beat the system/casino/life' with a simple injection/hack
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More like

"Do you shave instead of being natural ? If yes, then you are basically same as us who take weight loss injections"
 
BBSA said:
I think it’s being pushed far too easily while the real issue, fixing diet and lifestyle, gets ignored. If you sort out what you eat and how you live, you benefit for the rest of your life. A jab might lower appetite, but it doesn’t fix the inflammation, the cravings, or the long-term health problems caused by a bad diet.

My worry is that once medication becomes the easy option, most people won’t bother changing their habits at all. Society has normalised over-medication to the point where saying “let’s fix the root cause first” is treated like a controversial statement. I just don’t think relying on a weekly injection without changing anything else is real health, it’s a shortcut that keeps people dependent instead of genuinely improving their lives.
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Perhaps have this argument with Serena Williams.

I doubt you can say the woman who was the no.1 tennis player for years doesn't know about exercise and healthy eating. But yet she resorted to these evil injections and the results were amazing.
 
people on the injection has the stock shortage on the 7.5/10ml doses resolved it self or still a problem in south africa?
 
Thrasil said:
people on the injection has the stock shortage on the 7.5/10ml doses resolved it self or still a problem in south africa?
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soome have 7.5 , some dont, what most folks are doing is getting a 10mg, and counting clicks, DM me if you need the chart
 
BBSA said:
Why do you care, just go to your pill pusher and be happy. Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones who only have to comsume 5 pills a day in your old age.
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I implore you to reread my post. LOL.
 
There is no one size fits all solution. Everyone has a unique biological profile.

My personal experience with health / weight over the past couple of years:

At 1.76m my weight used to be steady in the range of 78-82kg. Quit smoking in 2012 and it settled around 84-87kg. Blood pressure was somewhat high, but not too worrying.

In 2017 I got a bad case of the flu and did not slow down or rest, but steamrolled through. Flu virus got in my blood and attacked the heart muscle - a nice case of viral myocarditis which led to heart failure.

Heart function tanked to 29% and beats per minute went through the roof along with my blood pressure, and lungs would fill with fluid when lying down - fun times.

After a year of recovery, my heart function is restored to 48% which is almost is the normal range, but the tachycardia and high blood pressure are here to stay. To keep my heart beating slow, steady and rhythmically, I am permanently on blockers (beta/calcium). Similarly, I am on a statin to protect my heart (total cholestrol has always been below 5).

By end 2018 I weighed 101kg. Since then, I have tried various ways to get rid of the extra kgs with very limited success. Banting and intermittent fasting proving to be the most effective. A side effect of the blockers are that my heart rate cannot increase normally during exercise, and cannot supply my body with the oxygen it needs during strenuous activity. While I do try to walk as much as possible, it does not give nearly the same results as cardio resistance training would as part of a weight loss program.

In 2023 my GP mentioned Saxenda and how it could help me achieve a healthier weight. Recommended dosage starts at 0.6mg per day during the first week and increases by 0.6mg every week until a dosage of 2.4 - 3.0mg is reached. I stayed on a dosage of 0.6mg for the duration of my use (much better on the wallet if you are happy with the results).

Weight dropped from 103kg to 94kg over a period of 5 months. Not bad considering exercise is basically off the table. My weight stabilized at 94-96 for 2 years, but recently I went up to 98kg again. Being over 50 now also does not help much. I have recently obtained a prescription for Saxenda again in the hope of losing some weight again.

Sometimes having to drink 5 pills everyday for the rest of your life cannot be replaced with willpower and lifestyle choices alone. Liraglutides are aides that I will happily use if it results in a healthier body.
 
muisnes said:
There is no one size fits all solution. Everyone has a unique biological profile.

My personal experience with health / weight over the past couple of years:

At 1.76m my weight used to be steady in the range of 78-82kg. Quit smoking in 2012 and it settled around 84-87kg. Blood pressure was somewhat high, but not too worrying.

In 2017 I got a bad case of the flu and did not slow down or rest, but steamrolled through. Flu virus got in my blood and attacked the heart muscle - a nice case of viral myocarditis which led to heart failure.

Heart function tanked to 29% and beats per minute went through the roof along with my blood pressure, and lungs would fill with fluid when lying down - fun times.

After a year of recovery, my heart function is restored to 48% which is almost is the normal range, but the tachycardia and high blood pressure are here to stay. To keep my heart beating slow, steady and rhythmically, I am permanently on blockers (beta/calcium). Similarly, I am on a statin to protect my heart (total cholestrol has always been below 5).

By end 2018 I weighed 101kg. Since then, I have tried various ways to get rid of the extra kgs with very limited success. Banting and intermittent fasting proving to be the most effective. A side effect of the blockers are that my heart rate cannot increase normally during exercise, and cannot supply my body with the oxygen it needs during strenuous activity. While I do try to walk as much as possible, it does not give nearly the same results as cardio resistance training would as part of a weight loss program.

In 2023 my GP mentioned Saxenda and how it could help me achieve a healthier weight. Recommended dosage starts at 0.6mg per day during the first week and increases by 0.6mg every week until a dosage of 2.4 - 3.0mg is reached. I stayed on a dosage of 0.6mg for the duration of my use (much better on the wallet if you are happy with the results).

Weight dropped from 103kg to 94kg over a period of 5 months. Not bad considering exercise is basically off the table. My weight stabilized at 94-96 for 2 years, but recently I went up to 98kg again. Being over 50 now also does not help much. I have recently obtained a prescription for Saxenda again in the hope of losing some weight again.

Sometimes having to drink 5 pills everyday for the rest of your life cannot be replaced with willpower and lifestyle choices alone. Liraglutides are aides that I will happily use if it results in a healthier body.
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but but but, we were given the magic, one size fits all formula... ;)
 
BBSA said:
I’m definitely not saying obesity isn’t a massive health issue, it absolutely is. Losing excess fat is one of the best things anyone can do for their health, but it is important to do it in a healthy way.

It’s also true that the GLP-1 meds can cause more lean mass loss than normal dieting, especially if someone isn’t eating enough protein or doing any resistance training. That’s not me being dramatic, even the clinical trials show a chunk of the weight lost is lean body mass.

Losing too much muscle as you get older can mess with strength, balance, metabolic rate, all of that, so it’s not something to just ignore.
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Although, one has to be alive to get older - which obesity is rather pesky about.

At the end of the day, a bit of weight training with these injections would seem to be a reasonable approach.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
More like

"Do you shave instead of being natural ? If yes, then you are basically same as us who take weight loss injections"
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No.
But before telling me it's unhealthy and I just need self control, whilst possibly sipping on creatine, BCAA stack, whey and or TRT would be dishonest.
Hence my asking him.

But from his response to your post it's obvious he's at the very least roided out
 
My weight loss journey for the year:
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Just slow and steady body recomposition by counting calories. Also 5 to 6 days a week weight lifting (push, pull, legs) and 10k steps a day.

I was sick towards end of August, beginning September which is why there's an upward curve there.

My heart rate decreasing throughout the year:
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You can clearly see the two months I was sick. The one in May was especially brutal.

My goal was to get to 85kg and I'm currently on 86.5kg so I'm busy aggressively cutting to get to 85kg before the end of the year. Then my plan for the first 6 months of next year is to lean bulk. Will see then if I will continue bulking for the rest of the year or cut again.
 
Solitude said:
My weight loss journey for the year:
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Just slow and steady body recomposition by counting calories. Also 5 to 6 days a week weight lifting (push, pull, legs) and 10k steps a day.

I was sick towards end of August, beginning September which is why there's an upward curve there.

My heart rate decreasing throughout the year:
View attachment 1869991

You can clearly see the two months I was sick. The one in May was especially brutal.

My goal was to get to 85kg and I'm currently on 86.5kg so I'm busy aggressively cutting to get to 85kg before the end of the year. Then my plan for the first 6 months of next year is to lean bulk. Will see then if I will continue bulking for the rest of the year or cut again.
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Same journey here. Slow and steady thats what allows for sustainable longterm lifestyle changes, well done!

The heart rate one is always cool to see as well!
 
Anyone here microdosing a GLP not for weight loss but for the health and cholesterol lowering benefits?
 
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