The Witcher 3 Official thread

wizardofid said:
Really ?

Game engine and in game is one and the same thing.The big difference between the two, is shaders used to get the cinematic effects, full screen shaders will be different as well as the amount of specular and other textures maps used to fit cinematic effects.

What it can do what you generally can't do in game is control rendering of objects to some extent, but because you have complete control of the camera angles used, you can effectively delete and objects that will not be rendered again, or reduce to LOD of an object up to 3 levels. LOD adds a lot more polygons to an object, but doesn't render all the LOD levels at once, LOD levels works based on distance and if the object is being rendered or not.

Secondly in engine can use smaller levels, as it's camera controlled, meaning that you have more headroom to play with additional shaders as well as effects.

There are still companies that render cinematic's in a 3D editor as it often provides more headroom and can be rendered 1 frame at a time, however now days it's just as easy to render cinematic's with the use of the game engine. But other than that in game, in engine is one and the same thing.

Game play footage refers to, camera footage directly from the players perspective and does not contain any scripted actions, as where in game or in engine footage refers to different camera angle's and scripted actions.As a result people confuse the two, and imply the rendering engine is completely different. It's not, in game and in engine is still one and the same render. Changing out shaders or tweaking shaders for cinematic effects doesn't change the engine render, it just changes how a scene, level ect is rendered.
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Well without getting technical about it, it is simple, what you see in the Star Wars:Battlefront trailer and what you will see when you eventually play the game is not going to look like that, no freaking way. So i feel putting things like "Game Engine Footage" in there to wow everyone with the graphics is a dodgy practice and borderline false advertising.
 
diabolus said:
Well without getting technical about it, it is simple, what you see in the Star Wars:Battlefront trailer and what you will see when you eventually play the game is not going to look like that, no freaking way. So i feel putting things like "Game Engine Footage" in there to wow everyone with the graphics is a dodgy practice and borderline false advertising.
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That's just another symptom of consolitus. They use PCs for gameplay videos and game convention demos, and then dramatically drop the quality so it will actually run on a console.
 
.QQ. said:
That read like a youtube comment
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And exactly how much should I care that you feel that your intelligence had to take a knock to the appropriate level to grasp the alien concept of what game developers do, like my self ? Unless you can provide sufficient evidence that in game and in engine is completely two different rendering platforms, I still wouldn't care.


In fact I feel your intelligence could have taken a considerable bigger knock than what you anticipated to the point of vegetative state with a childish reply like that, as appose to, "dude, could you kindly take the proper english course and formulate better constructed sentences". I do apologize in advance for the drooling mess, I left you in while took the time to write a proper retort in the most constructive way your little agile mind could cope with at the time.

Does this stimulate the trolling center of your little agile mind ?Perhaps my lingo is not adequate enough, and shall make use of tomorrow to really read youtube comments and make like I give a shyte, Eh?
 
.QQ. said:
That's just another symptom of consolitus. They use PCs for gameplay videos and game convention demos, and then dramatically drop the quality so it will actually run on a console.
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I don't care about the performance on consoles. I just hate it so much that the PC version needs to be nerfed so that the gap isn't too big. I remember not too long ago a dev took to Reddit anonymously and said that it's made rather unambiguous to the publisher that MS and Sony would be very unhappy if there was an uncomfortable disparity between PC and console.
 
wizardofid said:
game developers do, like my self ?
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If you're a game developer I'll eat my hat. Your post was filled with so many technical errors I don't even know where to begin.

4/10 for trolling effort, otherwise it's all bs.

Bryn said:
I don't care about the performance on consoles. I just hate it so much that the PC version needs to be nerfed so that the gap isn't too big. I remember not too long ago a dev took to Reddit anonymously and said that it's made rather unambiguous to the publisher that MS and Sony would be very unhappy if there was an uncomfortable disparity between PC and console.
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I'm 100% in agreement with this.
 
wizardofid said:
And exactly how much should I care that you feel that your intelligence had to take a knock to the appropriate level to grasp the alien concept of what game developers do, like my self ? Unless you can provide sufficient evidence that in game and in engine is completely two different rendering platforms, I still wouldn't care.


In fact I feel your intelligence could have taken a considerable bigger knock than what you anticipated to the point of vegetative state with a childish reply like that, as appose to, "dude, could you kindly take the proper english course and formulate better constructed sentences". I do apologize in advance for the drooling mess, I left you in while took the time to write a proper retort in the most constructive way your little agile mind could cope with at the time.

Does this stimulate the trolling center of your little agile mind ?Perhaps my lingo is not adequate enough, and shall make use of tomorrow to really read youtube comments and make like I give a shyte, Eh?
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I don't think anything posted quoting you was meant as an attack...

Anyhoo, no one that I've seen so far has argued that the engines are seperate. I would go on a limb and say that is common knowledge... what is being argued is what tools and engine has, versus what is ultimately put into a playable game. Crytek had similar demos, that Witch demo is another. Yes, sure the engine is capable.... there would just be about 4 people that could afford the rig to play it on.

All this aside though, I am still really looking forward to next week Tuesday. I'm happy that I get to play, but sad that it's the end of Geralt's story. I like the dude.
 
diabolus said:
Well without getting technical about it, it is simple, what you see in the Star Wars:Battlefront trailer and what you will see when you eventually play the game is not going to look like that, no freaking way. So i feel putting things like "Game Engine Footage" in there to wow everyone with the graphics is a dodgy practice and borderline false advertising.
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Have you EVER bothered to read those little T's and C's at the end of a trailer.It's like never ever been an issue in 20 odd years of gaming, until now, when some pissy gamer throws his wireless controller out of the man cave, god forbid game trailers and in game and in engine cinematic's have been lying to us all these years.Seriously ? My god alert the game review websites, that you have uncovered a plot that deceives gamers.
 
.QQ. said:
If you're a game developer I'll eat my hat. Your post was filled with so many technical errors I don't even know where to begin.

4/10 for trolling effort, otherwise it's all bs.



I'm 100% in agreement with this.
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Well...now that you mention eating hats.In a few days there will be a DLC available on steam I spend the last two months working on. will gladly post a link once it's up.Then of course there is the official demo level created for gameguru on steam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii1pzfhcJZom which happens to be early access on steam, then of course there is this a content development thread https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/208210 with about 10307 views.

Considering I am doing this as a full time job and my engine collection and software collection is likely worth more than your car, you could call me an indie game developer.Now you mentioned some thing about eating hats ?
 
.QQ. said:
That's just another symptom of consolitus. They use PCs for gameplay videos and game convention demos, and then dramatically drop the quality so it will actually run on a console.
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Dying light for example, the ps4 version's textures were worse than 'Low Quality' on PC. Still, knowing my PC (which still struggles with Witcher 2's Ubersampling) I'm glad I'm getting the ps4 version

WHY ISN'T IT TUESDAY YET
 
wizardofid said:
Well...now that you mention eating hats.In a few days there will be a DLC available on steam I spend the last two months working on. will gladly post a link once it's up.Then of course there is the official demo level created for gameguru on steam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii1pzfhcJZom which happens to be early access on steam, then of course there is this a content development thread https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/208210 with about 10307 views.

Considering I am doing this as a full time job and my engine collection and software collection is likely worth more than your car, you could call me an indie game developer.Now you mentioned some thing about eating hats ?
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Oh...game guru......


Oculate said:
Dying light for example, the ps4 version's textures were worse than 'Low Quality' on PC. Still, knowing my PC (which still struggles with Witcher 2's Ubersampling) I'm glad I'm getting the ps4 version

WHY ISN'T IT TUESDAY YET
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Haha, I had no idea about dying light. Agreed about Tuesday!
 
.QQ. said:
You seem a bit emotional about it.
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Nope, no reason to be. ;) I deal with trolls like you all the time, I just happen to be a game developer, ironic that you now resort to further childish behavior, if you were worth your salt and share your expert knowledge on the subject of game engines and game rendering, all things associated with it.

But I would venture a guess that it is above your pay grade.Unless you have some thing else useful to add to the debate kindly do so, I have no problem giving you a crash course in game engines and level creation.You haven't provided contradicting evidence as yet, I am more than happy to discuss the matter as it's my bread and butter.

Back on topic finished my preload about an hour ago so looking forward to the 19th :p
 
wizardofid said:
Nope, no reason to be. ;) I deal with trolls like you all the time, I just happen to be a game developer, ironic that you now resort to further childish behavior, if you were worth your salt and share your expert knowledge on the subject of game engines and game rendering, all things associated with it.

But I would venture a guess that it is above your pay grade.Unless you have some thing else useful to add to the debate kindly do so, I have no problem giving you a crash course in game engines and level creation.You haven't provided contradicting evidence as yet, I am more than happy to discuss the matter as it's my bread and butter.

Back on topic finished my preload about an hour ago so looking forward to the 19th :p
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Perhaps you're just an irate person in general then, or somehow feel the need to beat your chest for justification at the slightest provocation. At any rate, whatever your Freudian motivation was, your interminable diatribe was rather entertaining. All this after I replied with a single sentence. Hell even PhreeMe tried to step in calm things down, but by that stage you were already furiously engaged with your ego masturbation and lashing out with personal attacks, poor diabolus even caught some scorn as you tugged away.

So no, I didn't "add to the debate" as it was the most textbook case of "So much talk, so little said" I've ever seen.

Best of luck with everything, John Carmack.
 
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.QQ. said:
Perhaps you're just an irate person in general then, or somehow feel the need to beat your chest for justification at the slightest provocation. At any rate, whatever your Freudian motivation was, your interminable diatribe was rather entertaining. All this after I replied with a single sentence. Hell even PhreeMe tried to step in calm things down, but by that stage you were already furiously engaged with your ego masturbation and lashing out with personal attacks, poor diabolus even caught some scorn as you tugged away.

So no, I didn't "add to the debate" as it was the most textbook case of "So much talk, so little said" I've ever seen.

Best of luck with everything, John Carmack.
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You not worth the effort bru.....go troll youtube comments
 
Hey you guys arguing here knock it off and feck off to a new thread, we don't need this schite here! Go jerk off somewhere else.
 
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