The ZAR Exchange Rate Thread

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$ = R 7.731
£ = R 15.246
€ = R 12.211
Oil = $ 132.7
Gold = $ 932.35
Last update:
21 May 2008 23:30:00


Sharply weaker again...
 
$ = R 7.731
£ = R 15.246
€ = R 12.211
Oil = $ 132.7
Gold = $ 932.35
Last update:
21 May 2008 23:30:00


Sharply weaker again...

yeh, only because of the morons rampaging in the townships...
 
yeh, only because of the morons rampaging in the townships...

Apparently that did contribute but it is also to do with global negative sentiment again and the end of the positive outlook on the Rand...Crude oil price rising can't help either.
 
Well as to the Rand alone, yes 10c is not much!

But 10c regarding the Oil imports is equal to more than $1 increase in Brent Crude. :(
 
Don't expect those rates to recover anytime soon. Friends in Europe are reporting that the Xenophobia is all over the TVs in mad graphic detail. (SABS seems to be censoring the worst out). Getting much more attention over there than the Eskom thing.
 
Don't expect those rates to recover anytime soon. Friends in Europe are reporting that the Xenophobia is all over the TVs in mad graphic detail. (SABS seems to be censoring the worst out). Getting much more attention over there than the Eskom thing.

Seems that way - it's still all over Sky :o
 
The rand did not weaken as badly as might have been expected following the worse-than-expected US jobless data as investors shied away from buying dollars.

By 3.31pm the rand was bid at 7.8370 to the dollar from a previous close of 7.8201. It was bid at 12.2869 to the euro from a previous 12.1877 and at 15.3719 against sterling from 15.3030 before.

The euro was bid at $1.5676 from $1.5581 overnight, while gold was quoted at $890.30 a troy ounce from $878.05/oz overnight.

"The US unemployment data is negative for emerging markets, but the local currency market did not trade like it needed dollars," said a senior currency dealer.

He noted that there was a big short rand bias in place when the market broke the 7.82 level, but that there are good bids around the 7.80 mark.

"Over the shorter term very close stop losses will be in place," said the dealer.

He says that the volatility should persist next week, as it is getting expensive to be short rand.

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$ = R 7.87
£ = R 15.513
€ = R 12.346
Oil = $ 137.69
Gold = $ 902.35
Last update:
07 Jun 2008 09:30:00

Weakening again...Hasn't been this weak vs the pound for a while.

As for the Oil price...The less said about that the better! :o
 
Well a depreciation of nearly 50c and oil jumping 15 dollars in the months of June, this is easily an jump of more than 60c at the pumps. :(
 
How much does a liter gas and diesel cost in South Africa?

Too much. That question would need to be brought into the context of inflation and basic cost of living as well. You cant just use the Euro exchange rate as an indication of whether it is cheap or not, or even the relevant price to germany for instance.

Petrol (gas) - R9.83
Diesel - R10.86 IIRC
 
$ = R 7.976
£ = R 15.583
€ = R 12.357
Oil = $ 135.59
Gold = $ 873.8
Last update:
10 Jun 2008 17:30:00

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Too much. That question would need to be brought into the context of inflation and basic cost of living as well. You cant just use the Euro exchange rate as an indication of whether it is cheap or not, or even the relevant price to germany for instance.

Petrol (gas) - R9.83
Diesel - R10.86 IIRC

Sure.
I think so, that it is very much for you.

Your petrol price is as high as in the USA. (and Yanks are lamenting about it ... laughable, they just have to stop wasting oil)

In Germany a liter petrol costs 1,522 € and diesel 1,491 €.
My (single) way to job is 40km, so it's not cheap.

Then I have a diesel central heating. (and Germany is a bit colder than South Africa)
But global heating helps us saving heating cost. :D
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Temperaturreihe_Deutschland,_Jahr,_30-10.PNG
 
Sure.
I think so, that it is very much for you.

Your petrol price is as high as in the USA. (and Yanks are lamenting about it ... laughable, they just have to stop wasting oil)

In Germany a liter petrol costs 1,522 € and diesel 1,491 €.
My (single) way to job is 40km, so it's not cheap.

Then I have a diesel central heating. (and Germany is a bit colder than South Africa)
But global heating helps us saving heating cost. :D
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Temperaturreihe_Deutschland,_Jahr,_30-10.PNG

Whilst this is true, your entire transport infrastructure is better and doesnt rely as heavily on crude oil which is a plus. It might seem expensive, but at least you have the alternatives if necessary.

Germany's Euro move was one of the no brainers in the EU - it really helped to cement your economy in a somewhat turbulent time. I wish SA had the same luxury available to us.
 
Whilst this is true, your entire transport infrastructure is better and doesnt rely as heavily on crude oil which is a plus. It might seem expensive, but at least you have the alternatives if necessary.

Germany's Euro move was one of the no brainers in the EU - it really helped to cement your economy in a somewhat turbulent time. I wish SA had the same luxury available to us.

Hmm... yes.
Petrol/diesel is strongly taxed and ecological alternatives are strongly grant-aided to forward the changing.
People are wailing, but it's necessary.
(we do have just the half per capita oil consumption compared to the USA)


But we didn't believe that our economy is so much rock-solid in this turbulent time.
Until 2004 Germany was Europe's "problem child" and now we are Europe's draught horse.
EZB's policy of interest rates is strongly german charakterized.
From other EU-states there are voices to lower the prime rate.
But this is the false way - defeating the inflation (which is fueled by oil price explosion) is more important.
Currecy risks are nerly inconsiderably - 85% of the german exports goes to EU-states.
As a whole the EU and the euro is a boon.


I dont' know how it is in SA.
African Union - does it effect anything?

Apart from that it seems that SA is in a good development.
Solid national finances, good economy growth....
And in Johannesburg there are bigger buildings than in Berlin. :D
 
The African Union does nothing beneficial for us but squander tax payer's money. They are a bit of a joke to be honest.

SA was in an upward cycle but that is changing and the future isnt all rosy. Growth forecasts are being revised downwards on a regular basis and inflation is hurting us in a big way. But it is a short term issue and we will recover strongly in mid 2009 I reckon.
 
The African Union does nothing beneficial for us but squander tax payer's money. They are a bit of a joke to be honest.

Can SA resign from AU?


SA was in an upward cycle but that is changing and the future isnt all rosy. Growth forecasts are being revised downwards on a regular basis and inflation is hurting us in a big way. But it is a short term issue and we will recover strongly in mid 2009 I reckon.


Then it's all OK.
A "healthy" recession is better than the trying to stop it with an USA-like glut of money.
 
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