The Zimbabwe Elections 2023 thread

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A thread to cover news on the build up to the Zim elections

Zimbabweans will vote on 23 August to elect councillors, members of parliament, and a president. If there is no outright winner in the presidential contest, a run-off will be held six weeks later, on 2 October.

Zimbabwe's electoral commission has approved 11 candidates.
This is sharply down on the 23 who contested the last election, in 2018, no doubt because each candidate now has to pay $20,000 (£16,000), up from $1,000 (£800).
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But the contest is likely to be between two candidates:
  • Incumbent Emmerson Mnangagwa, from the governing Zanu-PF party
  • Opposition leader Nelson Chamisa, from the Citizen's Coalition for Change (CCC)
Mr Mnangagwa, 80, has led Zimbabwe since the military forced Robert Mugabe to resign in 2017, and then won a disputed election a year later. He was a long-time ally of Mugabe before the pair fell out.
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www.bbc.com

Zimbabwe elections 2023: What you need to know

The BBC explores key issues in a vote that will test how far Zimbabwe has come since Robert Mugabe.
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SA's delegation as " independent observers" will have regular meetings with ZANU PF to map out the results.
 
6spdmanual said:
the time for change has come. It’s a perfect time for Zimbabweans to go home and vote for the change they need.
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Anecdote: I worked with a guy from Zimbabwe. Whenever there were elections he remained a die-hard Zanu-PF supporter because ''Mugabe liberated us''. He was in South Africa because he couldn't get a job back home after their economic collapse, but he continued to support the Zanu-PF.

It's the same sort of thing we see here, where people feel obligated to vote for the ANC because of the past.
 
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Harold_Crick said:
Anecdote: I worked with a guy from Zimbabwe. Whenever their were elections he remained a die-hard Zanu-PF supporter because ''Mugabe liberated us''. He was in South Africa because he couldn't get a job back home after their economic collapse, but he continued to support the Zanu-PF.

It's the same sort of thing we see here, where people feel obligated to vote for the ANC because of the past.
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Crazy right? Someone also said to me that Zimbabwe is “liberated” already. The only challenge they face is sanctions which is hampering the entire country’s economy. I couldn’t believe it.
 
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6spdmanual said:
Crazy right? Someone also said to me that Zimbabwe is “liberated” already. The only challenge the face is only sanctions which is hampering the entire country’s economy. I couldn’t believe it.
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Indeed. I understand the allegiance for the first few years, I even understood that here, but at some point, you have to realise it isn't working out anymore and that the party you once revered is only looking after themselves.
 
As a firm believer in people taking control of their own future, there needs to be a mass call for ALL eligible Zimbabweans based in SA to go home and vote for change.
 
The news said Zimbabwe government has invited 46 countries to observe the election, including US, UK, Russia and 17 continental and regional bodies. Do you think it will help with a fair and just election?
 
BTW, you guys know any forums Zimbabweans stayed? I wanna check their opinion about the election.
 
AmutovSaydalim said:
BTW, you guys know any forums Zimbabweans stayed? I wanna check their opinion about the election.
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There is the Zimbabwe sub on Reddit, and I found this -
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zimbabwe/comments/14u694a

Consensus seems to be Zanu-PF victory. Commentls include, the opposition leader being too weak, Zanu-PF loyalty, the outcome already being rigged and rural support to carry the Zanu-PF.

This comment I found interesting, and you can apply it to South Africa -

A small chance. At least you can see how this works. The majority of ZANU voters are rural and the majority of CCC voters are urban. A significant portion of the Zimbabwean population is rural. Therefore ZANU has always focused its campaigns in those areas. All ZANU hast to do is to accuse the opposition of being puppets of neo colonial governments and play their anticolonialism line. It would take a lot of people being fed up for the opposition to win. It's not impossible though.
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