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Reading this, and many other articles on this section made me think...... http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2615

Do you think Zuma will become president or did the Scorpions do just enough to put him behind bars before the General Elections....
And if so, who will most likely take his place? And will he/he do a good enough job? And if Zuma does become president, will he do well for this place?

Is the ANC doing a good enough job since 1994?
Will our electricity crisis be solved? Will the foreign investors come back?

On the side, will our once, non-existent crime issue be solved? Will we have a solution to the spreading of AIDS? Will our Rand ever be as strong as it used to?

What do you think this country will be like in 2-3 years time or even after the World Cup (Will we be able to even host it?)

Is SA just another failed African state?

Right now, I'm really really angry...How did this country break down in just 3 months? How did our leaders screw it up so bad...
Do they even know the damage AA and BEE causing this country or do they just care about the next time they get a big fat check:mad:

Are you optimistic? Pessamistic?
 
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Realist - - > This country is going down, fast. It will inevitably follow the same route as most other African countries.
 
Why don't you guys really start panicking that the country's going to implode fast. Decide that you're going to move tomorrow and sell me your house on the cheap. Many of you doomsday prophets did that after '94. Best thing was idiots selling 4000 sq. metre homes in Houghton for R 400 000. HAHA
 
Future? What future? In Africa there is no tomorrow. There is only today.

If South Africans don't do something today, it will never get done.
 
Going the same route as all the other failed states in Africa. Might happen at a slower pace but it's going in the same direction unless we get some good leadership and the outlook isn't good for that.

I have given up on SA totally.
 
true. I think our leadership is quite poor. Management is taking this country on a rollercoaster ride to HELL. They are skimming off every cent they can. !!
 
boramk said:
Do you think Zuma will become president or did the Scorpions do just enough to put him behind bars before the General Elections....
And if so, who will most likely take his place? And will he/he do a good enough job? And if Zuma does become president, will he do well for this place?
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I think the trial will go ahead despite all ANC efforts to derail it. If Zuma is convicted then Kgalema Motlanthe will most likely take his place. Will he do a good enough job? Certainly didn't do a very good job as Secretary-General of the ANC and is said to be weak and ineffectual. Seems to be quite honest & forthright though.
This rot is across the board. It's not confined to any level or any area of the country. Almost every project is conceived because it offers opportunities for certain people to make money.
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Although Motlanthe must be commended for speaking out candidly, during his 10-year tenure as organisational head of the ANC's operations he has allowed it to sink into a shambolic state.

If Zuma becomes president, I'm definitely out of here.
 
Hoping it won't go the same way as the rest of Africa but deep inside I know what's coming and it's not pretty
 
boramk said:
Right now, I'm really really angry...How did this country break down in just 3 months? How did our leaders screw it up so bad...
Do they even know the damage AA and BEE causing this country or do they just care about the next time they get a big fat check:mad:

Are you optimistic? Pessamistic?
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Realistic. This country is not going down in just three months, its a accumulation of multiple issues only becoming clearer now. The pit suddenly ran dry. Since Mandela left office the Circus script was written and enacted by the empowered clowns based on a sommthing called a democracy bases on a constitution that means nothing.

Like the rest of Africa once the resources is depleted by their greed and the main players chased away then the collapse is eminent and gains speed all the way. I thing enough was said to proof the facts on other threads so the details is irrelevant.

The only outstanding issue is to ask, honestly, WHY! and then look at Africa and some areas in the rest of the world and ask "What is the one single , most prevalent, common denominator or factor in it all. That is then very clear if you are honest about the issue and with yourself.

May I ask, What future? ...There is no future! Just look at Zim and all is clear. Do they have a future? or are they trying to find one here in SA? Men leave their families at large to escape the cesspool and by their action help to create the same here.
 
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In a 100 years Table Mountain will still be standing and I will be ashes.
That is the only certainty.

I try to avoid negativity. Once we as a Nation can conquer that small thing our paths will be better paved and level.
There is far more at stake than Zuma Paranoia and Corrupt and Lazy Politicians. The land will still be here, people will carry on and the next generation will build on that and I can assure you that in 50 years time Apartheid will be forgotten and read only in History Books or Online Encyclopaedias.
If you take WWI and WWII where countless millions of people lost their lives and terrible hardship was had by all, what do we/me/you remember from that? WWI was almost too long ago and that Generation is basically extinct. WWII is vaguely remembered by the few people that are still around like people like my father who was merely a 5 year old boy when the War broke out in 1939 and all he can tell me is that they had food to eat which they grew in the garden but very little else in the way of luxuries or basic things like sugar and salt which we take for granted. Money was so scarce that in many instances my fathers parents bartered for little bits and pieces. Yet they survived and so will South Africa.

I think South Africa has a very interesting History and one can only make predictions based on hindsight and our past rich in diversity will undoubtedly make for a reasonable future. :)
 
stefan9 said:
Going the same route as all the other failed states in Africa. Might happen at a slower pace but it's going in the same direction unless we get some good leadership and the outlook isn't good for that.

I have given up on SA totally.
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Unless we return to apartheid? Some (white) people are intent on seeing SA become a basket case, the neutral observer can't help but conclude that this probably stems from bitterness. Bitterness at having to share South Africa and all her wealth with the other 95% of the population. The bitterness of an end to job reservation, the bitterness at driving a road named after a "terrorist".
Like I've said before, those with doomsday theories should do themselves a favour and start packing those bags, we'd like to see them stay- even if its Orania!
 
Ozymandias said:
If Zuma is convicted then Kgalema Motlanthe will most likely take his place. Will he do a good enough job? Certainly didn't do a very good job as Secretary-General of the ANC and is said to be weak and ineffectual. Seems to be quite honest & forthright though
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kgalema_Motlanthe#Corruption
yay:mad:
you can NEVER google a South African politition without having "corrupt" or "scandal" under their names

Ozymandias said:
If Zuma becomes president, I'm definitely out of here.
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same here dude
 
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aadil said:
Why don't you guys really start panicking that the country's going to implode fast. Decide that you're going to move tomorrow and sell me your house on the cheap. Many of you doomsday prophets did that after '94. Best thing was idiots selling 4000 sq. metre homes in Houghton for R 400 000. HAHA
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Well what I can remember, in '94 R400 000 was a crapload of money.

hashbrown99 said:
Hoping it won't go the same way as the rest of Africa but deep inside I know what's coming and it's not pretty
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QFT

Now with this whole Zuma for president, black only meeting ..I'm starting to think we are truly *****d. I should have done my degree when I was younger then I could leave this country in hurry.
 
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Unless we return to apartheid? Some (white) people are intent on seeing SA become a basket case, the neutral observer can't help but conclude that this probably stems from bitterness. Bitterness at having to share South Africa and all her wealth with the other 95% of the population. The bitterness of an end to job reservation, the bitterness at driving a road named after a "terrorist".
Like I've said before, those with doomsday theories should do themselves a favour and start packing those bags, we'd like to see them stay- even if its Orania!
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I don't know why you think this way. Let me assure you that you want the economy to prosper as much as possibly in order to get those 40+ million people out from those shacks. There is no other way. There is also no
way an economy will grow if its being mismanaged, either through purposeful corruption or through neglect and incompetence. So far we've
seen the incompetence. Things are deteriorating but before they'll
get bad for the richer whites it will get a lot worse for the blacks.

I think you should go out and speak to some poor people first, those
who can't feed their kids because mielie pap has gone up, who
can't heat their houses/light them because paraffine and candles
are more expensive, who can't get to work because the taxi
faire is now higher because of a more expensive petrol price,
and finally all those people who won't get jobs because ESKOM
can't provide the power for foreign investment or those
foreign investors who are scared of by the BS eminanting
from the parliament or the high crime rate.

Throwing abstract bourgeois values around about bitterness IMHO
is criminal when so many people live in adject poverty - majority
of which are actually average decent people - it's only a small minority
which hijacks cars and breaks into houses.


If you call wanting these people to improve by first having jobs for their parents so that they can send their kids to school and university one
day - BITTERNESS I think you're smoking a pipe of the KKK or the
NSDAP.

I spoke to a black security guard today for example, the guy admitted things are deteriorating. His reasoning was "There's just too many poor people."
Which is true. There are too many poor people for our politicians to drive expensive 7-series sedans or mismanange national security assets (fuel reserves,
electricity, infrastructure).
 
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