This man is about to die...

Would you have tried to help?

  • Yes

    Votes: 72 73.5%
  • No

    Votes: 14 14.3%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 12 12.2%

  • Total voters
    98
I agree, this has nothing to do with natural selection. If somebody walked up and shot you in the head, is that natural selection? Because your brain skull wasn't strong enough to withstand a bullet?



were* :D ;)

Damn it :D I'll go beg for mine also :o
 
Depends who the person is, I can be a bastard sometimes. Some random stranger = yeah. Julias = beg first, then no.
 
A New York Post front-page picture of a man about to be killed by an oncoming subway train provoked fury on Tuesday from readers left wondering why nobody, particularly the photographer, tried to pull the victim to safety — and why the tabloid published the image.

Because they don't give a ***t.
It is merely a newspaper headline, not the loss of a human life.
 
ok I clicked unsure before I saw the image.

He was right there, it would have taken seconds to pull the guy up. Cowardly bastards.
 
The freelance photographer who took the pictures, R. Umar Abbasi, defended his actions in an interview. “I’m being unfairly beaten up in the press,” he said at his apartment in Greenwich Village on Tuesday, before leading a reporter to the 49th Street subway platform to re-enact what had happened.

Mr. Abbasi said he was wearing a 20-odd pound backpack of camera gear for an assignment, and was standing near the 47th Street entrance to the platform when he saw the man fall on the tracks. “Nobody helped,” he said. “People started running away.”

“I saw the lights in the distance,” signaling a subway’s approach, he said, so he started firing off flashes on the camera — 49 times in all, he said — as a means of warning the driver.

“I was not aiming to take a photograph of the man on the track,” he said, later adding that his arm was fully outstretched, the camera far from his face.

“If I had reached him in time, I would have pulled him up,” he said. At one point, the man said to have shoved Mr. Han came toward Mr. Abbasi, he said, so he backed up against a wall, still flashing his camera. He estimated the victim was on the tracks for 10 or 15 seconds before he was struck.

“The driver said he slowed down because he saw my flashes,” he said.

Mr. Abbasi said he brought police officers to The Post’s offices, where they examined the pictures for any images of the perpetrator, and he left the camera’s memory card with editors at The Post. He was not part of the decision to publish the pictures, he said.

“Every time I close my eyes, I see the image of death,” he said. “I don’t care about a photograph.”

Mr. Abbasi’s wife, Joan Sherman, said, “I understand people being heroes, but you also have to be realistic about what you’re capable of and your strength.”

The police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, when asked about the photographer’s actions, said: “I don’t know. I wasn’t there.”

“I don’t know how fast the train was coming in,” he added. News reports emerged saying Mr. Han had been drinking before the exchange, which occurred at about 12:30 p.m., after he argued with his wife. Mr. Han approached the man who pushed him, witnesses said, though it was unclear why. The man had been seen mumbling to himself. The encounter was a new wrinkle.
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Personally, I voted yes. But in the immediacy of a situation like this, I'd like to think I would be able to assess the risks VS the outcome and help if it is possible, which is very hard to gauge from a snapshot.
 
Erm... no. Then all deaths can be put down to natural selection. By waking up in the morning and stepping out of your house you should know that danger to yourself increases by a bajillion %....
But waking up and stepping out of your house aren't stupid acts. Arguing and fighting with a hobo are stupid acts.

I agree, this has nothing to do with natural selection. If somebody walked up and shot you in the head, is that natural selection? Because your brain skull wasn't strong enough to withstand a bullet?
I don't see how someone shooting you is the same as fighting with a hobo that ends up shoving you to your doom.

If you think this was Natural selection then I would suggest you go get your school fees back :o

Seriously?
Please tell me you were joking? :D
Maybe start my re-educationing by saying what you think natural selection is?
 
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But waking up and stepping out of your house aren't stupid acts. Arguing and fighting with a hobo are stupid acts.


I don't see how someone shooting you is the same as fighting with a hobo that ends up shoving you to your doom.


Maybe start my re-educationing by saying what you think natural selection is?

Yes, I clearly need to be re-educated on how natural selection works. According to your theory any means of death appart from old age is a nomination for a Darwin award /facepalm
 
Yes, I clearly need to be re-educated on how natural selection works. According to your theory any means of death appart from old age is a nomination for a Darwin award /facepalm

Except that that's not my theory at all. Again, please educate me as to what your understanding of natural selection is?
 
Except that that's not my theory at all. Again, please educate me as to what your understanding of natural selection is?

What a retarded question... Google it, I can google it if I didn't know and post it. Please stop drawing stupid conclusions about people as you have no idea of what my understanding of evolution and natural selection is.

It's however clear to us all that you don't grasp the concept as yet. Now go google it and educate yourself a little better on the subject. No way does stupidity come into a scuffle with a hobo, we don't even know what caused the scuffle.

Ffs, why do I even bother? No use arguing with you on this subject
 
I wasn't there so I am unsure how I would react.
I'm arguing that this is natural selection at work. How did he come to be stuck in front of a rapidly approaching train?
So... what is an example where natural selection is not at work?
 
What a retarded question... Google it, I can google it if I didn't know and post it. Please stop drawing stupid conclusions about people as you have no idea of what my understanding of evolution and natural selection is.

It's however clear to us all that you don't grasp the concept as yet. Now go google it and educate yourself a little better on the subject. No way does stupidity come into a scuffle with a hobo, we don't even know what caused the scuffle.

Ffs, why do I even bother? No use arguing with you on this subject

I'll ignore your banter. See? Not that hard. And you're not even a hobo. I think.

Well then I guess that's where we differ, as I think it's pretty stupid arguing and then fighting with a hobo for whatever reason. Reminds me of a guy that I saw get out of his car to beat up a hobo because he didn't like the way that he was begging to his female companion. It would have been super funny to me had the hobo pulled out a knife and, err, knifed him.
 
Personally, I voted yes. But in the immediacy of a situation like this, I'd like to think I would be able to assess the risks VS the outcome and help if it is possible, which is very hard to gauge from a snapshot.

Voted on the same premise.

Speeding train vs my porky gut.
Think the train's gonna win. But if there was enough time - [-]it'd certainly be[/-] I'd hope it'd doable.

/makes note to pack hero suit
 
i would probably have to say no. my reasoning being that the train is coming in fast and i'm never likely to step up to the end of the platform ever. have you felt the force of a train coming into the station when near the edge of the platform. that's why people are told to keep away from the edge of the platform. any small mishap can happen and it's all over. more so if it's a non stop train.

uh - no, i'd have to take a split second to think about mass, velocity, speed, force etc. sorry that train was a tad close and it would probably have only been seconds before it was right there.
 
I would like to think I would help the guy. The only reason I said maybe is that given the situation one might freeze, if that train is too close, too fast I might hesitate... which kinda make me hate myself a bit :(
 
I would have to say no. It's easy enough to say yes. And feel good about it. But reality is a very different story.

And I'm betting that many on here saying they would have attempted to save him wouldn't even try if the situation actually happened for real.
 
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