This Semenya thing

[Syndyre]

I don't think there's an athletics coach in the world that would say to a very promising 18yr athlete "You can't go to the World Champs because, despite the fact that you've got a vagina, there are people that think that you might not be a woman."

Maybe not but they could've handled it as a medical/scientific matter and not had a tantrum.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I it true what i hear from the african people in the office that the african comunity will treat her worse than the whites because they traditionaly see this as a curse?

No idea... All I know is that in tiny, narrow-minded, ignorant poor community, regardless of the culture, she will be looked down on. Either because she's "different" or because, in their eyes, she failed them.

 

[Mila]

This is truely sad for Casta.

 

[smokey]

It is. The problem is when people will start treating her as though she's a monster just because she's different. And really, how different is she to what she was four months ago? She's still the same person. But that's not what others will see, is it?

Firstly, her dreams of being a professional athlete are pretty much shot. Secondly, with this news becoming public, whatever small community she lives in will look down at her. Thirdly, I have no doubts that Inkwenkwe will, in some way, hold her to blame for "tricking" him or whatever. Fourthly, her life is being made a mockery by the media and government and sports organisations alike. Can you imagine how difficult this time must be for her? Especially since her little world of beliefs and normalcy has been shattered.

I genuinely worry for this girl's future. And by all means, I believe she is a girl. She grew up believing it, living as one and acting as one. She is her mother's daughter and she should hold her head up high. But other people won't see it as that.

I believe what she needs is her friends and family to support her... If she doesn't have that, then... :/ I really wish her the best...

Andy Warhol had a saying for this...

 

[manleystilgram]

Firstly, her dreams of being a professional athlete are pretty much shot.

Not neccessarily.

These results are, as yet, unconfirmed.

If they're true, it has yet to be proved that this gives her an unfair advantage. See here:

Of particular interest is the 1996 Olympics, where 8 women were identified as "genetic males", but all 8 were allowed to compete. These 8 would have presented with the same results as Caster Semenya supposedly has - no uterus, no ovaries, and (possibly) internal testes. All 8 were cleared to compete.

So, the issue not quite as clear cut as it may seem. And that is one of the question marks around the Australian report - the source is adamant that Semenya will be banned from future competition, but this is clearly not a guarantee. It may happen, but it may not.

One option that I have seen mentioned is that she doesn't compete for two year, has the internal testes removed and undergoes hormone therapy - and then is allowed to compete again.

But, at this stage, everything is conjecture.

Secondly, with this news becoming public, whatever small community she lives in will look down at her.

I don't think so. Did you see the reception when she got home? No matter how her internal organs are arranged, this woman is a hero in her community.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

What's ironic is that the very people who Juliass criticised for not being at the airport to welcome her home, are the very ones who are now actually behind her when things aren't going her way. But where is that spineless twat now to blow his mouth?

 

[Mila]

What's ironic is that the very people who Juliass criticised for not being at the airport to welcome her home, are the very ones who are now actually behind her when things aren't going her way. But where is that spineless twat now to blow his mouth?

+10000!!!

 

[manleystilgram]

What's ironic is that the very people who Juliass criticised for not being at the airport to welcome her home, are the very ones who are now actually behind her when things aren't going her way. But where is that spineless twat now to blow his mouth?

Err, not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Are you suggesting that the people that were at the airport are no longer behind her? Or that there has been some change in support from the majority of us that weren't at the airport?

I think that most people have always supported her, even if they didn't go to the airport. I don't think that that has changed.

 

[Pitbull]

Err, not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Are you suggesting that the people that were at the airport are no longer behind her? Or that there has been some change in support from the majority of us that weren't at the airport?

I think that most people have always supported her, even if they didn't go to the airport. I don't think that that has changed.

I think he was pointing at the perception that was created by mr Juliass......

All of a sudden it's the white people that now feel so sorry for the situation this poor girl is in. But they hwere never behind her, I mean why where they not at the airport

:erm:

 

[Syndyre]

All of a sudden it's the white people that now feel so sorry for the situation this poor girl is in. But they hwere never behind her, I mean why where they not at the airport

:erm:

What were they thinking, working to pay those taxes to fund everything, how selfish! :erm:

 

[davemc]

ROFL, the more you pay, the more guilty you are.

Like so: So you're the buggers that funded that event that caused this fiasco, SHAME on you!

 

[Albereth]

Mostly I agree with you, except for this point:



Don't forget that Semenya is externally a woman, she's always thought of herself as a woman, as have her friends, family etc. You can't exclude someone from the World Champs based on the expectation of an adverse verdict - that's assuming she's "guilty".

But yes, the IAAF and especially ASA, have let Semenya down. It is very disappointing for her.

Why not? The IAAF have their rules and if you want to compete then you abide by their rules. Simple.

And the IAAF had reason to doubt that Caster was 100% legit, even if she saw things differently, based on prior events.

 

[Albereth]

It is. The problem is when people will start treating her as though she's a monster just because she's different. And really, how different is she to what she was four months ago? She's still the same person. But that's not what others will see, is it?

Firstly, her dreams of being a professional athlete are pretty much shot. Secondly, with this news becoming public, whatever small community she lives in will look down at her. Thirdly, I have no doubts that Inkwenkwe will, in some way, hold her to blame for "tricking" him or whatever. Fourthly, her life is being made a mockery by the media and government and sports organisations alike. Can you imagine how difficult this time must be for her? Especially since her little world of beliefs and normalcy has been shattered.

I genuinely worry for this girl's future. And by all means, I believe she is a girl. She grew up believing it, living as one and acting as one. She is her mother's daughter and she should hold her head up high. But other people won't see it as that.

I believe what she needs is her friends and family to support her... If she doesn't have that, then... :/ I really wish her the best...

I see it the way you do.

 

[Albereth]

Err, not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Are you suggesting that the people that were at the airport are no longer behind her? Or that there has been some change in support from the majority of us that weren't at the airport?

I think that most people have always supported her, even if they didn't go to the airport. I don't think that that has changed.

He didn't say that - but they are rather quiet or are continuing to play the race card.

 

[RetroBok]

I'm glad it turned out this way, not because my original thoughts were correct but because two news stories the last few weeks have broken internationally, showing SA in it's true light.

Can some one say Banana Republic run by Guerillas?

I feel sorry for the girl, but life has it's potholes and if the municipality (read: ANC w@nkers) you live in and support is useless at filling them then tough ****!