Tilera 100 core processor

But will it run windows or linux or OSX, something we all use. Not some dev kit like Nvidia's GPu's.
 
Given where they were positioning it in the article, my guess is this is for custom built systems and not for General purpose computing like running Windows or Linux...
 
where do i get one? i guess i'll need a new mobo to support the thing... :D
 
I have to disagree... they mentioned cloud computing. The backbone of cloud going into the future will be linux/windows based services... With the new virtualized hardware services available in both os's its a huge market that these guys can tap into given the performance and price is right...
 
kaaskop said:
But will it run windows or linux or OSX, something we all use. Not some dev kit like Nvidia's GPu's.
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Linux only.

http://www.tilera.com/products/software.php
MDE Components

Runtime Environments
Standard SMP Linux 2.6
Zero Overhead Linux (ZOL) enabling real time application to run on Linux
Bare Metal Environment (BME) for low level applications and complete hardware control
Hybrid environment to run a mix of all available environments

Software Stack
Standard Linux, C, and C++ user space libraries
Standard runtime environment using SMP Linux 2.6
Hypervisor for hardware abstraction and virtualization
High speed packet processing and load balancing drivers

Development Tools
State of the art ANSI C/C++ compiler
Robust Eclipse Integrated Development Environment (IDE)
Standard command line tools for GDB, Gprof, and oprofile
Complete system simulator and hardware development platform
Graphical multicore application debugging and profiling
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zamicro said:
Is this x86 compatible?
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No.

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/64way-chip-gains-Linux-IDE-dev-cards-design-wins/
The Tile64 is based on a proprietary VLIW (very long instruction word) architecture, on which a MIPS-like RISC architecture is implemented in microcode. A hypervisor enables each core to run its own instance of Linux, or alternatively the whole chip can run Tilera's 64-way SMP (symmetrical multiprocessing) Linux implementation. An "iMesh" switching interconnect, developed by Tilera's founder, MIT professor and serial entrepreneur Dr. Anant Agarwal, is said to eliminate the centralized bus intersection that limited scalability in previous multicore designs. (See our previous coverage for an in-depth look at the Tile64.)
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reddevilandy10 said:
How much does this baby cost? :D
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64 Core version
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/new...raises-multicore-bar-with-new-64-core-CPU.ars
The initial entries in the TILE64 line are now shipping on PCIe daughterboards for development and production purposes. The processor is also available in lots of 10,000 for $435, and further entries to the TILE family are planned to include different core counts.
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FrancTheTank said:
Thats pretty neat, but NVidia's CUDA enabled processors still kicks some ass in terms of development, availability and affordability
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The new NVidia Fermi GT300 chips coming soon have awesome CUDA enhancements, like full C++ support and all-memory access.

With the GT200 chips you can run almost 30 000 concurrent threads, and they are almost doubled with the GT300. One of the Tesla rigs sport a 1 TFlops speed, but I may have seen a figure of 3 TFlops for the GT300 (may be wrong).One of the worlds biggest cloud computing networks, I think for SETI or something, has 400 000 pc's and boasts a 600 TFlops effective speed.

The first NVidia OpenCL driver is now also available, which will allow you to run the same code on any GPCPUGPU multi-processor system. Though for the moment CUDA is still the most mature and best supported framework to use.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are not fully-featured cores? Pretty much like the CUDA stuff.

Call me when you have 100 full featured cores. :)
 
Intel already have an 80 core research chip. They have developed a process whereby they can simply add more cores to the wafer by just plugging them in. If they want a 1000 cores they just connect more. However these chips are supposed to be another year or two away. This means more competition and hopefully more processing power. Hopefully the operating systems can keep pace with this sort of development as there is no point in running an operating system that only takes advantage of 2 cores and not all of them.
 
Gmac270 said:
Intel already have an 80 core research chip. They have developed a process whereby they can simply add more cores to the wafer by just plugging them in. If they want a 1000 cores they just connect more. However these chips are supposed to be another year or two away. This means more competition and hopefully more processing power. Hopefully the operating systems can keep pace with this sort of development as there is no point in running an operating system that only takes advantage of 2 cores and not all of them.
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Intel has something over Nvidia, it's called x86. Intel (and AMD) both had a license to make processors with x86, and OS like Windows and Mac both use x86 (linux doesn't). So even if Nvidia make a processor that's 1000 times faster, people can't use it with current OS (mac and pc).
 
Then the OS will change. If you recall, MS Windows wasn't always for x86. Unfortunately, market share determines what wins these days. It's not like the better technology ever wins.
 
scotty777 said:
Intel has something over Nvidia, it's called x86. Intel (and AMD) both had a license to make processors with x86, and OS like Windows and Mac both use x86 (linux doesn't). So even if Nvidia make a processor that's 1000 times faster, people can't use it with current OS (mac and pc).
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Linux does run on x86, how else do you think people can buy PC hardware and install Linux instead of Windows?

MS still cant even make a decent ARM based OS, so I seriously doubt they are going to have any support for this anytime soon.
 
Mouse said:
Linux does run on x86, how else do you think people can buy PC hardware and install Linux instead of Windows?

MS still cant even make a decent ARM based OS, so I seriously doubt they are going to have any support for this anytime soon.
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sorry, my experience with Linux is very limited...

and well, M$ is very limited, they are looking more for market share and profit then actually making for a happy consumer.

If Microsoft made a massive jump to make a OS that isn't x86 (maybe use something that is more open to hardware vendors) then a massive influx of competitive computers will come in and development will start moving at a decent pace. But alas, Intel has M$ by the balls (no hardware, no software, and if M$ pulls a zap, then Intel has a number of OS vendors), this means intel will make sure x86 will remain in the pipelines for a very long time.

As for the better technology doesn't always win? well, yes, that's a fact... it's the technology that is best suited for the time, and the technology that is most funded... Best eg: Bluray vs HD-Dvd... HDdvd had more features, and was better, but with every PS3 having Bluray, and sony really pushing it, bluray became standard (this was a victory for sony who learned form the VHS and Beta max days, Beta max was the more advanced tech, but it lost)
 
Beta vs VHS, DVI vs LVDS, 8-track vs cassette, RISC vs CISC, TN vs non-TN... unfortunately it's the consumer that calls the market and leads where the big money can be made, but sometimes it's also the propagator of the good technology that puts a premium price on the product that eventually kills it.

MS did support a non-x86 architecture back in the 90s in the NT OS, but then they changed and focused solely on x86. Pity.

Besides, I don't think we should be discussing this Tilera processor range as if it is meant for desktop use. The PC is not the only computing device out there.
 
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