Tongaat Mall Building Collapse and Inquiry

Mall contractor under fire for 'shoddy' work

Durban - The Tongaat mall that collapsed on Tuesday - trapping some 50 workers - is linked to a high-flying and controversial family already under fire in an official report for their companies’ “shoddy” building standards.

The mall, which is still being built, collapsed at around 16:00 on Tuesday. A three-storey section, the size of half a soccer field, pancaked while supports were being removed, according to eyewitnesses.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Mall-contractor-under-fire-for-shoddy-work-20131120
 
They did what was required of them. They can't be expected to police the area every single day. This isn't the fault of the municipality - seems they identified problems and did what they could to stop it, and were under the impression after the court proceedings that construction would halt. The contractors were breaking the law - the municipality can't be held accountable for that...

Stop blaming capitalism! Its the governments fault!

Juuuust kidding :D (I really am kidding) :D
 
They did what was required of them. They can't be expected to police the area every single day. This isn't the fault of the municipality - seems they identified problems and did what they could to stop it, and were under the impression after the court proceedings that construction would halt. The contractors were breaking the law - the municipality can't be held accountable for that...

Gonna change your position in light of the information that came out? :)
 
Gonna change your position in light of the information that came out? :)

No. The awarding of a dodgy contract and enforcement of court orders are two different things. Should the contract have been awarded? Probably not. Does the municipality have an obligation to around the clock monitoring to enforce court orders? No. It's up to the contractor to abide by the court order.

It's like saying that any crime committed by someone who is subject to a restraining order is the fault of police. It's simply not feasible to expect this level of enforcement...
 
No. The awarding of a dodgy contract and enforcement of court orders are two different things. Should the contract have been awarded? Probably not. Does the municipality have an obligation to around the clock monitoring to enforce court orders? No. It's up to the contractor to abide by the court order.

It's like saying that any crime committed by someone who is subject to a restraining order is the fault of police. It's simply not feasible to expect this level of enforcement...

Err, they awarded contracts to a contractor who's a convicted criminal, and who is known for his poor quality of work. Just 2 weeks back they used their majority to push through an extension for this charlatan's company.

http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global[_id]=109035
 
Heads are gonna roll. Which contractor / construction company is responsible for the building of the roof?

Apparently the company is notorious for shoddy workmanship and corruption, but the city insisted on using them. The ANC used their majority in the council to extend their dealing with the company, too. :rolleyes:

I doubt that Jay Singh's head will roll seeing that the ANC were happy to take both his cash and his shoddy work.
If any charge is ever made against him the NPA will ensure that it is withdrawn.
 
I doubt that Jay Singh's head will roll seeing that the ANC were happy to take both his cash and his shoddy work.
If any charge is ever made against him the NPA will ensure that it is withdrawn.

"not enough evidence"
 
Mall collapse to be probed

A culpable homicide case will be opened after the collapse of a mall construction site in Tongaat, north of Durban, KwaZulu-Natal police said on Wednesday.

"We must now determine, through the investigation, whether there was negligence and who was responsible," Lieutenant Mandy Govender said.

A woman was killed when a football pitch-sized portion of the construction site collapsed on Tuesday afternoon.

The labour department had taken over the scene and was in charge of the entire operation. Police would remain on the scene, Govender said.

Three people remained unaccounted for, and it was possible that more people were trapped in the debris, she said earlier on Wednesday.

Netcare 911 spokesman Chris Botha said that in addition to the single confirmed death, 29 people were hospitalised with various injuries.

He said the search and rescue operation had been called off so the labour department could move some of the rubble with heavy machinery.

Labour department spokesman Page Boikanyo said a delegation led by acting director general Sam Morotoba would visit the scene on Wednesday.

The department's deputy director general of inspection and enforcement services, Thobile Lamati, and Compensation Fund commissioner Shadrack Mkhonto would also visit the site.

Earlier, eThekwini deputy mayor Nomvuzo Shabalala said construction at the mall should not have been taking place.

"We took them [the contractors] to court a month ago. We thought they had stopped," she said.

The municipality had approached the court because the contractors had not followed processes. The municipality would hold a press conference at noon about the collapse.

The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) said it was concerned about accidents in the construction industry. The union demanded a transparent investigation and that proper corrective action be taken, spokesman PB Ngcobo said in a statement.

"The employer must answer to all allegations that they proceeded to build without approved plans. They must also answer as to why they defied the court order, as alleged by the eThekwini municipality."

The investigation needed to uncover how prevalent such actions were within the construction industry.

"Construction workers are of the belief that there is collaboration between the inspectors and the employers to hide the occurrence of accidents in the industry and what happened in oThongathi is just a tip of the iceberg."

NUM was worried that government authorities, such as the labour department's inspectorate, were not doing enough to prevent such accidents.

ANC KwaZulu-Natal spokesman Senzo Mkhize said construction companies flouting building regulations should be blacklisted.

"The ANC is appalled that this tragedy happened barely a month after the eThekwini municipality had ordered the construction to stop," he said.

"Had the company complied, surely this disaster could have been averted."

He extended the party's condolences to the family of the woman who was killed and wished the injured a speedy recovery.


Source : Sapa /mjs/js/th/ks
Date : 20 Nov 2013 11:27
 
Err, they awarded contracts to a contractor who's a convicted criminal, and who is known for his poor quality of work. Just 2 weeks back they used their majority to push through an extension for this charlatan's company.

http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global[_id]=109035

The fact that they took them to court indicates to me that this is far more complex than that. How the tender was awarded needs to be investigated and I believe, considering the court case, that it was not the municipality who pushed for it but rather someone else or another department with influence. The municipality did the right thing by taking them to court and they can't be expected to institute around-the-clock surveillance to enforce court orders, is all I'm saying.

I'm not implying that anyone is innocent in this process, but jumping to conclusions doesn't help either...
 
The fact that they took them to court indicates to me that this is far more complex than that. How the tender was awarded needs to be investigated and I believe, considering the court case, that it was not the municipality who pushed for it but rather someone else or another department with influence. The municipality did the right thing by taking them to court and they can't be expected to institute around-the-clock surveillance to enforce court orders, is all I'm saying.

I'm not implying that anyone is innocent in this process, but jumping to conclusions doesn't help either...

Well, sure I'd agree with that. But what we know is that he's a convicted criminal. Previous projects of his were poor quality, which should be criminally negligent. And he's an ANC benefactor. These aren't conclusions I'm jumping to, just what we know so far. Either way the ANC is implicated, whether through the municipality, another government department, or in their political capacity.
 
I'm not implying that anyone is innocent in this process, but jumping to conclusions doesn't help either...

Come on, we've seen the same scenario play our how many times now? ANC benefactor gets contract regardless of proper procedure.

Nothing different from Zuma & his Indian benefactors being treated like royalty & getting rich at our expense.
 
Come on, we've seen the same scenario play our how many times now? ANC benefactor gets contract regardless of proper procedure.

Nothing different from Zuma & his Indian benefactors being treated like royalty & getting rich at our expense.

You're reading too much into my replies. Gary initially said that it was partly an enforcement issue with the municipality. I merely replied that a municipality cannot be expected to conduct around the clock enforcement of all court orders. It is up to the contractor to abide by the ruling. At no point did I mention anything about this not being a corrupt deal to begin with - in fact I have already stated that the deal looks dodgy from the outset...
 
http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-afr...-plans-were-not-passed-1.1609546#.UoyOFMRmh8E

Controversial businessman Jay Singh confirmed on Tuesday night that the mall was being built by his company, Gralio.

According to Singh, it was not uncommon in the building industry for developments to begin before plans had been passed by the municipality.

He said: “Often you start building without plans being passed. But even if the plans had been passed this incident would still have happened because this was an engineering problem. It had nothing to do with the plans.”

Really ?
 
An engineering problem?! You put load on concrete slabs poured three days before. That's not an engineering problem - that's culpable homicide...
 
An engineering problem?! You put load on concrete slabs poured three days before. That's not an engineering problem - that's culpable homicide...

Well if you're Jay then its an engineering problem, because his engineer didn't spec out the right concrete that dries in 20 minutes, and costs 10c a metric ton.
 
So the problem appears to be the early removal of the support scaffolding - how is that an engineering problem rather than the developer trying to hurry up construction ?
 
Another ANC success story. All that matters is that the gravy train rolls on, doesn't matter how many are crushed beneath its wheels.
 
http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/tongaat-builders-ignored-orders-to-stop-1.1609839#.UoyltMRmh8E

Durban - The developers of the collapsed mall in oThongathi (Tongaat) had been given at least three warnings to stop building at the site, it was revealed on Wednesday.

It is not clear how many people may still be trapped under piles of twisted steel and slabs of concrete at the collapsed mall, where one body had been pulled out by Wednesday morning.

The slabs of concrete on two storeys, each the size of about half a football pitch, caved in on workers at the construction site late Tuesday afternoon.

Two women workers, who are sisters, had been in a bakkie on the top floor when it collapsed. One sister was thrown out, and her body was recovered.

The other miraculously survived, and is in hospital.

There is confusion about how many may be trapped as Gralio Construction failed to provide a list of names for the workers.



“All entrances are sealed with rubble. At this stage we believe there are about 20 people still trapped. Even the dogs are struggling because of the amount of collapsed structural tubing and steel.”

Holmes said he doubted if anyone would emerge alive.

The city on Wednesday morning turned its attention to developer Jay Singh, linked to Gralio Construction, which is building the mall.

Singh’s wife, Shireen Annamalay, is listed as the director of Gralio.

A source close to the Singh family said they had gone into hiding to avoid the media contingent outside their Phoenix home. They had also switched off their cellphones.

Singh told the Post newspaper on Tuesday night that the plans for the building had not been approved, but claimed it was not uncommon in the building industry for developments to begin without the plans being passed.

He blamed the collapse on an engineering problem and said it had nothing to do with the plans.

The mall planned to house several chain stores, including Spar, Game and Edgars.

But it was revealed by a highly placed source with the city that Singh had not even had the area rezoned from residential to commercial, and should not have been building until this had been done.

He said that in 2010 the application had been refused because a traffic impact assessment had not been completed, and was still outstanding.


eThekwini mayor, James Nxumalo, said on Wednesday that a notice to stop construction had been issued four months ago. Because Gralio ignored the order, he said, the city had been forced to go to court, lodging papers on September 26.

On November 14 the order was issued unopposed, and the company was served the same day.

The source said that the city would blacklist Gralio immediately, but that this applied only to work done for the council. However they would scrutinise any work done privately by Gralio.

A woman paid by Gralio Construction to hire local workers said on Wednesday they had not been registered with the Department of Labour.

Ward 61 ANC Councillor, Michael Abraham, said Gralio had approached his offices to assist in the recruitment process.

Abraham appointed Nobesuthu (Monica) Mpeshwa, a local community worker, to oversee the process.

She had recruited 35 workers from the nearby Mbhayi informal settlement.

Mpeshwa said they included general workers and bricklayers.

None of them had been registered, both claimed.

Abraham said: “The onus was on Gralio to have the workers medically examined and registered. It is clear they have violated the labour relations act and should be taken to task.”

Mpeshwa said three of the workers were in hospital.

MEC for Health, Dr Sibongiseni Dhlomo, said an urgent meeting was being called by Nxumalo on Wednesday morning, to determine what will be done about the owner contravening the court order.

“The municipality was clear that the owner was not supposed to continue (construction) and if someone disrespects the court interdict, we can’t predict what will happen,” Dhlomo said.

“This affects not only the people of Tongaat, but people throughout the country.”

On Tuesday night, eThekwini city manager, S’bu Sithole, also confirmed that Gralio Construction had defied a court order to stop work at the site.

Sithole said no approval had been given for the building to go ahead.

“This is the worst disaster to ever hit KwaZulu-Natal. We usually see this on television in other parts of the world. This is a major disaster,” Sithole said.

He said the building had failed to comply with the city by-laws.”

“There are culprits all across the city that are breaking the building by-laws everyday. Well, I have a message for them. This is it... it stops now,” Sithole said.

From this moment on, it will be a zero tolerance approach.

“Building contractors who fail to comply with regulations will be brought to book.

“We cannot have a repeat of this disaster. I will not allow it.”

He said the area had been declared a disaster zone and investigations by the city as to what had caused the mall to collapse had already begun.

KZN ANC spokesman, Senzo Mkhize, said the party called on the city to blacklist all building companies found to be flouting regulations and wanted a police probe

Too late Mr Sithole.

So we could have over 20 deaths here - using dolus eventualis could the developer be charged with murder ?
 
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