Traffic demerit system launched

How the hell is Joe public supposed to know about this fancy new system? The real troublemakers don't read the news.

Why bother with this...its useless until the fix the epic fail parade at the licensing places.

Aren't the points a bit too lenient? e.g. this 1 point + per 3 months business sounds way to lenient. At that rate I'd probably never get below 10 points even though my driving is not always ideal.
 
Aren't the points a bit too lenient? e.g. this 1 point + per 3 months business sounds way to lenient. At that rate I'd probably never get below 10 points even though my driving is not always ideal.

Lenient is good. The point system is only meant to hurt the real scofflaws who break the rules again and again. Fines are supposed to deal with the occasional offender.

Taking away someone's drivers license in a country with a poor public transport system is a very big deal. For many people it would mean they'd have to give up their job or move house.
 
Ahh the SA traffic police trying to 1st class work in a 3rd world country.

I drive 60 in a 60 zone, I obey the rules. But I know I will get nailed. The taxi drivers which I encounter everyday in my life in Rivonia road will not see anything. I have seen how taxi drivers stop at a red light and just "slip" over it when there is no traffic.. and this doesn't happens just once, twice... is a DAILY occurence. I have seen how they drive in the wrong lane when traffic is just bad and they are in a "hurry". I want a traffic cop to drive with me 1 day ....

Will they get nailed? Nope. I haven't seen 1 cop in that street. But you the law abiding citizen wil get a fine because you accidently left your wallet at home with your license in it (happend to me a few years ago).

I have seen how the cops target law-abiding citizens, because its so much easier to target us, because we have alot to lose.

And what about fake number plates? Who will get the point(s) when the car is on my name and my wife drives over a speed trap?

Edit: And where is the traffic cops when the lights/robots are out? Doing f-all. Isn't it in their job description?
 
I checked the website. This raises so many issues.

What happens is you can't drive anymore? Then you can't go to work? How the hell do you get from PTA to JHB/Sandton?

With our corrupt officials... this is just a breeding ground for more corruption. Pay to get points reduced.

Lots more other!
 
Who will get the point(s) when the car is on my name and my wife drives over a speed trap?
I don't know what they plan to do here. In the UK you tell them onto whose license the points should go. This of course does lead to point distribution in families.
 
Well personally I believe people drive better here than overseas, everywhere overseas where I have been has been horrible. This statement excludes taxis of course :D
 
Well personally I believe people drive better here than overseas, everywhere overseas where I have been has been horrible. This statement excludes taxis of course :D

I heard similar observations from both my friends who emigrated to Toronto and Ottawa.

Still, Joburg bad drivers annoy me so much! :mad:
 
we need to do somthing have you every seen the drivers is india or the like shocking.

I just think it is more about police presence... and equal punishement, I tend to speed quite a bit and drive about 10 - 20% above the speed limit but when i get caught it tends to slow my roll.. i have no problems with speeding fines...


I think the biggest problems on our road to be adressed is road worthness of cars. esp commercial vehicals(trucks, taxis, tour operators) then people should need a difference liscense to drive passangers around not just a code 8 ... we are not a 1st world country where ppl will replace thier car every three years... so some sort of MOT structure with woudl be good..

there is plenty to be done..


but at the end of the day we will get a whole bunch of new lawsa and 40% of them will be enforced....
 
For many people it would mean they'd have to give up their job or move house.
No they'd just drive illegally without a license. Seen it happen!

I have seen how the cops target law-abiding citizens, because its so much easier to target us, because we have alot to lose.

This is also a daily occurrence. They tend to like to target a specific ethnic group, those indeed with a lot to lose and generally the ones who obey the rules of the road.

I will have no respect or regard for the metro police (or the LICE as I call them) until the day they can explain to me why they see fit to pull me over and make me wait 20 minutes on the side of the road for nothing other than to make me late for work so that I can get into kuk and lose my job.
Their excuses:
- "you weren't in the right lane to turn"
when I was going straight and couldn't frikken turn there anyway
- "eish but your hooter is not wekkeing"
when my car was less than 3 years old and the DAMN hooter WAS WORKING!

They will find any excuse to pull you over whilst a taxi goes flying past them through a red robot causing an accident, which they also ignore.

I have had people on other forums in SA that claim I look like a criminal or dodgy and that is why the lice are pulling me over. What is dodgy about me just trying to get to frikken work in the mornings?????? This was said by a few people with rose coloured glasses who claimed that there was nothing wrong in SA. Someone like Skinner on this forum.
 
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Not sure if this has been posted. But here is what the new system is going to do to our pockets.

New driving points system hits the road
By Jani Meyer
Details of South Africa's tough new measures to remove dangerous drivers from the road by suspending or revoking their licences have been revealed.

The new system will be introduced in Pretoria on September 1 and then extended throughout the country.

Every driver will be awarded 12 points. If you lose those points through 12 demerits in a year, your licence will be suspended. After three suspensions, your licence will be cancelled.

So strict are the new regulations that you could have your driver's licence suspended immediately if, for example:
· You're caught speeding.
· You're not wearing a seatbelt.
· Your car's tail lights are not in working order.
· You left your licence at home.

And in addition to losing your licence, you will be slapped with a stiff fine.

National Transport Department official Ndivhuwo Mabaya said each motorist would be allocated 12 points at the beginning of each year.

If he or she remained penalty-free at the end of the year, the next year would kick off with an additional 12 points plus a bonus point - a total of 25.

This process would be repeated every year, with the result that good drivers would be rewarded by building up a bank of bonus points. Conversely, points will be deducted for offences committed during each year.

However, don't think you can build up, say, five years worth of brownie points as a safeguard against any serious traffic offence you might commit in the future - such as drunken driving, excessive speeding or running over a pedestrian while you're inebriated.

In the case of major traffic violations, the law will continue to take its normal course and you will end up in court to face the music.

And, if found guilty, you're almost certain to lose all your carefully hoarded points as well.

Traffic officials also stress that the entire system is in a trial-and-error development phase and will be tweaked and fine-tuned continuously as the need arises in the years ahead.

The new demerit system, based on a highly successful Australian model, has been made possible by the introduction of the card-format driver's licences which enable traffic authorities to store the record of every driver.

Demerits will be rated according to a unit scale.

For example, if a motorist is found with an unregistered vehicle, he will be docked two demerit points from his 12 points and get 10 penalty units which means a fine of R500.

Not having your driver's licence with you also costs two demerits and a R500 fine.

If you are caught not wearing a seatbelt, you will get one demerit and pay a R250 fine.

Traffic infringements that will cost drivers three demerits include not stopping at a stop sign and overloading by more than 25 percent.

Overloaders will be penalised by 25 penalty units - a fine of R1 250.

Those caught speeding repeatedly will be especially hit with hefty fines and demerits.
· If you are caught doing up to 20 percent over the speed limit, you will get a fine of R250, but no demerit points - for example speeding up to 72km/h in a 60km/h zone or up to 144km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· If you are 21 percent to 30 percent over the speed limit you will get one demerit point and a R500 fine - for example travelling up to 78km/h in a 60km/h zone or up to 156km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· If you are 31 percent to 45 percent over the speed limit you get two demerit points and a R750 fine - for example up to 87km/h in a 60km/h zone or 174km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· If you are 46 percent to 60 percent over the speed limit you are docked three demerit points and fined R1 250 - for example doing up to 96km/h in a 60km/h zone or up to 192km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· Doing more than 60 percent over the limit will mean the driver will go straight to court where the magistrate will determine the fine - and four demerit points will be deducted.

Motorists who have not converted to the new card format have already lost their licences and will have to be re-tested if they want to drive again

ouch!

R750 for going just over 90 in a 70 zone! They must be out of their minds!

Its blatantly obvious that this is a money making scheme rather than actually trying to improve the safety of driving on our roads.

How many times have we seen robots out at a major intersection, and a few hundred metres down the road two larger than life metro cops speed trapping. Unbelievable.

I think the next time some Metro cop tries to pull me over, I am just gonna look the other way. Zero respect for them.
 
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