Tripping on LSD - what's it like ?

LancelotSA said:
We are getting off topic and onto something that was discussed extensively in a thread before but the bottom line is that the one is illegal and the other isn't. The one is therefore regulated, with consequences for the manufacturers, while the other isn't. This does not mean the one is less destructive, or dangerous, than the other but that is the way it is. The argument to make drugs legal because alcohol is also does not hold water with me as a line has to be drawn somewhere. Ideally that line should be drawn before any addictive substance but it is not so.

It would be great to live in a world where it was a free for all and we could all decide freely what we would and wouldn't like to do but unfortunately we all know that this would not work.
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consequences for the manufacturers? How so? I make the choice to drink, therefore its all my fault if something goes wrong? The manufacturer has no responsibility to me except some warning label to advise me to drink responsibily....hardly useful.... I guess you could make the argument that because drugs are not regulated, you are not sure what exactly you are putting in your body..
Acid/E related deaths are tiny, and usually due to mixing drugs (mainly alcohol) or dehydration.
 
Lance what is the most addictive drug on the planet?

I'll give you a hint, you can buy it everywhere legally.
 
DJ... said:
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I'm afraid we differ in this respect. I think of it in terms of my children questioning drug use. I am not going to advocate the responsible use of drugs to them. I'll point out to them that it is illegal. I'll point out the dangers associated with drug use. I will refrain from talking about the cool, trippy, wayout feelings they could experience while under the influence. These will just make them more curious.

Yes, some of you were good enough to point out that bad trips do happen and they are not at all pleasant. The trouble is being with friends at home does not negate the chance of this happening. I know.

I have a number of UK mates who still have some psychological issues that they personally are convinced are as a result of their London drug use. Yes, talking about things can be beneficial but if there are negatives I think they need to be stressed. Too many people talking about their experiences, in my opinion, creates an illusion that it is fine to do as everyone else is.
 
LancelotSA said:
I'm afraid we differ in this respect. I think of it in terms of my children questioning drug use. I am not going to advocate the responsible use of drugs to them. I'll point out to them that it is illegal. I'll point out the dangers associated with drug use. I will refrain from talking about the cool, trippy, wayout feelings they could experience while under the influence. These will just make them more curious.

Yes, some of you were good enough to point out that bad trips do happen and they are not at all pleasant. The trouble is being with friends at home does not negate the chance of this happening. I know.

I have a number of UK mates who still have some psychological issues that they personally are convinced are as a result of their London drug use. Yes, talking about things can be beneficial but if there are negatives I think they need to be stressed. Too many people talking about their experiences, in my opinion, creates an illusion that it is fine to do as everyone else is.
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by leaving out the good bit, you are going to make them curious...because their friends are most definitely going to tell them the good bits...i would seriously recommend mentioning it all, the good and the bad. you have to be honest...


Being with decent friends at home greatly increases the chances of safety and a good time. It cant completely eliminate a bad experience, but drugs....especially acid is highly influenced by your surroundings and the moods of others..
 
DJ... said:
If I can give you one piece of advice for trying it the first time, do not do it publicly. Do it in a "safe" environment with people who have experience with the stuff. It's not like dropping E where you just get a light feeling and wanna party - it's far more intense. And if anyone tells you it doesn't work the first time, punch them in the face, repeatedly...
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So doing it with friends who also haven't done it is a big no-no?
 
tau1z said:
consequences for the manufacturers? How so? I make the choice to drink, therefore its all my fault if something goes wrong? The manufacturer has no responsibility to me except some warning label to advise me to drink responsibily....hardly useful.... I guess you could make the argument that because drugs are not regulated, you are not sure what exactly you are putting in your body..
Acid/E related deaths are tiny, and usually due to mixing drugs (mainly alcohol) or dehydration.
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As correctly covered by you in the second half of your post I was referring to the ingredients used. SAB is highly unlikely to mix horse sedatives into their beers. We could of course also add in the crime empires that are also fed by drugs being illegal.

killadoob said:
Lance what is the most addictive drug on the planet?

I'll give you a hint, you can buy it everywhere legally.
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For your benefit let me repeat a post that discussed this. Apologies to everyone else for being subjected to it again.

LancelotSA said:
We are getting off topic and onto something that was discussed extensively in a thread before but the bottom line is that the one is illegal and the other isn't. The one is therefore regulated, with consequences for the manufacturers, while the other isn't. This does not mean the one is less destructive, or dangerous, than the other but that is the way it is. The argument to make drugs legal because alcohol is also does not hold water with me as a line has to be drawn somewhere. Ideally that line should be drawn before any addictive substance but it is not so.

It would be great to live in a world where it was a free for all and we could all decide freely what we would and wouldn't like to do but unfortunately we all know that this would not work.
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My one friend said when he took it was like everybody was made out of huge match sticks, Richard Brandson said it deformed he wife (in his tripping eyes) so much she looked like a monster an he couldn't love he anymore, But you must remember the trips you take are imprinted in your brain for ever - I'm to worried about having a bad trip so no thanks, I shall stay natural - would say green but I had swazi red today :p
 
Acid is not addictive. It is just fun. But one bad "trip" can be the scariest **** in the world. Just make sure you are at a safe place and have music.
 
Helghast said:
So doing it with friends who also haven't done it is a big no-no?
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definitely not, and trust me when i say this, friends who like screwing with each other will be bad news for your first time...
make sure you are somewhere where you feel comfortable, relaxed, have a good vibe and friends who rock. I have talked ppl out of bad experiences or calmed them down when they had issues..
If yuo have never had any kind of drugs, i would also say acid is prob not the best thing to do....it can be a bit intense..
 
Bottom line, OP, is that you have absolutely no idea how it is going to affect you personally. Worse case scenario, you really enjoy it and become a druggy craving that first time feeling again. Best case scenario it is like hell, you have a really crap time, think you are going to die, and you never touch the stuff again. ;)
 
tau1z said:
definitely not, and trust me when i say this, friends who like screwing with each other will be bad news for your first time...
make sure you are somewhere where you feel comfortable, relaxed, have a good vibe and friends who rock. I have talked ppl out of bad experiences or calmed them down when they had issues..
If yuo have never had any kind of drugs, i would also say acid is prob not the best thing to do....it can be a bit intense..
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+1000 if you have a very close friend it is fine if it is your first time. Maybe try shrooms first. There is nothing that can prepare you for lsd.
 
LancelotSA said:
As correctly covered by you in the second half of your post I was referring to the ingredients used. SAB is highly unlikely to mix horse sedatives into their beers. We could of course also add in the crime empires that are also fed by drugs being illegal.
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The crime empires i agree with....and it is a large downside..
as for the odd mixes in the drugs....To be honest, drug dealing is a repeat and word of mouth business...if something goes wrong, the guy can seriously lose all his business..
the random mix could happen...but if you read studies on what is usually in them, and studies on death related incidents from drugs like E and acid...its a very small risk when compared to risks fro smoking and drinking...I would say the first time taking is prob the most dangerous...
 
tau1z said:
The crime empires i agree with....and it is a large downside..
as for the odd mixes in the drugs....To be honest, drug dealing is a repeat and word of mouth business...if something goes wrong, the guy can seriously lose all his business..
the random mix could happen...but if you read studies on what is usually in them, and studies on death related incidents from drugs like E and acid...its a very small risk when compared to risks fro smoking and drinking...I would say the first time taking is prob the most dangerous...
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I really don't see why lsd must be illegal. I found I have more controll over myself than I do when drunk. I have never blacked out on it.
 
I find freaking people out before they take acid is the worst thing you can do. If you are going to take acid just take it and don't think OMG what if this happens or what if that happens.

seventhson

Alcohol is just as bad, the difference though is acid can take a person and turn them into a freaked out scared person for 12+ hours. Acid is pretty scary when it goes wrong but then i guess so is a really really drunk person but they can sleep it off, they don't tend to get stuck in a world of acid hell for 12 hours.
 
LancelotSA said:
Bottom line, OP, is that you have absolutely no idea how it is going to affect you personally. Worse case scenario, you really enjoy it and become a druggy craving that first time feeling again. Best case scenario it is like hell, you have a really crap time, think you are going to die, and you never touch the stuff again. ;)
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I fully agree 100% with what you have written. But those are the extremes, I would suggest the OP do some proper research, possibly even be around others who are tripping / rushing and see how it affects them...See if thats what you want...

I can tell you now, when yuo are sober and see it, sometimes it scares you to think that you look like that...othertimes...well, it makes u want..
 
My experiences with acid where fantastic!

This sums up my first experience with it..

“Today a young man on acid realised that all matter is just energy condensed to a slow vabration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves.” - Bill Hicks
 
seventhson said:
I really don't see why lsd must be illegal. I found I have more controll over myself than I do when drunk. I have never blacked out on it.
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depends on the dosage...one of the few drugs where i feel like i can lose control is acid...i dont, but the feeling that things are running away from me happens on it, and i dont like it.... As mentioned, the only way i can remotely enjoy acid is if i candy flip....
We could debate drugs vs legal substances...but this has, I am sure, been done plenty before...
 
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