There's loads of variables doing a road test for something like this, in addition to the inconsistencies of the test driver/drivers.That will also work, but far more realistic fuel consumption figures can be obtained via a road test as I described above.
A dyno will be more for tuning any kind of engine for maximum power and low fuel consumption.
Besides, if you really want to lower your fuel consumption drastically, get a scooter/motorcycle, or use a bicycle
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Fazda
Honorary Master
That will also work, but far more realistic fuel consumption figures can be obtained via a road test as I described above.
A dyno will be more for tuning any kind of engine for maximum power and low fuel consumption.
Besides, if you really want to lower your fuel consumption drastically, get a scooter/motorcycle, or use a bicycle
I think you possibly misunderstood what I meant. The dyno would simply be used as a "rolling road" in such a test. That is how they test cars to destruction in development phase.
Fazda
Honorary Master
I am certainly skeptical, and when I read that it has to be fitted next to the air cleaner, I become even more so!
My Ford Tracer has done 207 000 k's and I regularly get between 7,2 and 7.6 l/100...absolutely no need to fit one thank you!
killadoob
Honorary Master
Skeptical and knowing for a fact are 2 very different things if you ask me.
Fazda
Honorary Master
OK, even you, who have had this thing on for 3 years, cannot seem to give us concrete before and after figures.
Show me the money, and I might start listening!!
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
Ah, ok, now I get what you're trying to say.
Yes, then they should get the same car on a dyno test twice, once without the turboflo, and then with the turboflo and compare the two results. This should be more in line of a scientific approach without any outside variables.
Yes, you appear to be a very credible source. Public servants proving their worth again...
ROFL
Read that report.
They used a Hartbridge smoke detector which measures opacity to determine smoke density - they fitted these gimmicks to vehicles that should not have been smoking in the first place. Now how would they test the emissions claims on a petrol engine, or maybe they used the Hartbridge on petrol cars ?
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And it's results of such scientific testing that has made their sale illegal in some countries.Ah, ok, now I get what you're trying to say.
Yes, then they should get the same car on a dyno test twice, once without the turboflo, and then with the turboflo and compare the two results. This should be more in line of a scientific approach without any outside variables.
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d0b33
Honorary Master
Frankie's doing a good job debunking these devices.. I'm impressed never thought you'd be capable.
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Fazda
Honorary Master
A couple of excellent "pick ups" there Frankie!
I am afraid anything attached to Ekuhruleni Municipality is highly suspect in my eyes...the McBride connection will stick with them for a while, and they come across as a Municipality that would do anything for a backhander or two!!
As you say, those "smoke" tests are more smoke and mirrors than factual!
I am afraid anything attached to Ekuhruleni Municipality is highly suspect in my eyes...the McBride connection will stick with them for a while, and they come across as a Municipality that would do anything for a backhander or two!!
As you say, those "smoke" tests are more smoke and mirrors than factual!
killadoob
Honorary Master
A couple of excellent "pick ups" there Frankie!
I am afraid anything attached to Ekuhruleni Municipality is highly suspect in my eyes...the McBride connection will stick with them for a while, and they come across as a Municipality that would do anything for a backhander or two!!
As you say, those "smoke" tests are more smoke and mirrors than factual!
Really so your opinion on the matter means it is fact? How can we believe you anymore than the municipality?
Are you saying that this product does not work and you know it because you have tested it and can without a shadow of doubt claim it's rubbish?
Ok then glad someone who has tested it can say it's rubbish.
Fazda
Honorary Master
Not at all!
I don't believe in gimmicks, period...the fact that a rather suspect Municipality chooses to punt them simply makes them even more suspect in my eyes.
I am allowed to have a POV...not forcing you to agree at all, just saying my 2c worth!
d0b33
Honorary Master
I'll wait for BCO's test... always a possibility that the oil companies are deliberately making cars less efficient.. and that's why these devices are illegal in some countries.
Personally though these gimmicks are snake oil.
Personally though these gimmicks are snake oil.
Fazda
Honorary Master
I'll wait for BCO's test... always a possibility that the oil companies are deliberately making cars less efficient.. and that's why these devices are illegal in some countries.
Personally though these gimmicks are snake oil.
Good idea! if BCO says it works, you know that he has concrete figures and that he has tested it over 5000 k's.
I'll be very interested to see his results.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Yea i understand having a POV is one thing but doing what you guys are doing not actually having ever used it seems a bit much hey.
Not sure but i don't put down products i have not tested just because i think it.
Lets hope BCO tests it and gives us a review.
Not sure but i don't put down products i have not tested just because i think it.
Lets hope BCO tests it and gives us a review.
Stokstert
Executive Member
Many people taking part in this thread seem to have no mechanical, thermodynamic, aerodynamic or other technical background and only use guttfeel to comment. The few skeptical ones, Fazda as an example, have a lifelong background in motoring and can identify a gimmick a mile away because he has the technical know how.
That's why I will never comment on IT threads because I know bugger all about it.
That's why I will never comment on IT threads because I know bugger all about it.
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The picture on the web site shows the device installed upstream of the air filter, then it has no hope in hell of influencing the performance or efficiency in any way whatsoever, other than negatively - the air filter is an absolute diffuser and then after that, on fuel injection cars, the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor has a mesh type diffuser built-in just upstream of the actual sensor element.
These gimmick devices have been tested by reliable trustworthy institutes under controlled conditions, and been debunked.
Hey, just trying to save fellow forumites money here, and the embarrassment when they take the car to the mechanic and he sees that they've been conned - if he's sharp he'll detect that they're easily parted from their money and charge them more.
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A dyno can let you set precise conditions - constant or pre-defined varying load conditions, so as to keep the variables of the test as exact as possible.
Yes, but to increase the pressure, you need something that *will* increase the pressure, like a turbocharger or supercharger - and you will need some source of power to do that. Does this Turboflow thing have a source of power, or is it an unpowered device?
R300 will get me a tank of petrol. Spending it on a device that doesn't work will waste that money.
Never mind testing - one needs to show a method by which this device can work. I haven't seen that yet.