Uncapped downloads

[Syndyre]

He had me fooled!

How pathetic! I'd rather go for a company that aren't deceiving their clients, and pay a few rand more.

I think i've read quite a few bad reports about the company he represents, I will look back in the archive.

The way I see it its the same account so go with whoever's cheapest.

 

[Freaksta]

Hi there,

Just to set the record straight, R800 (ex VAT) is not, in fact the cheapest Uncapped ADSL option available. Our 384k Uncapped ADSL, which has been on the market for over a year now, is R765.00 (Ex. VAT) or R872.10 (Incl. VAT).

http://www.imagine.co.za/uncapped_adsl.php

hmmm quite a good price..

I must ask a question tho.. On uncapped accounts, are you reselling a premade account from IS.. Or is it an account specially made by Imagine IPS?

I wanna find someone that is on a 4meg line and has like a 512k uncapped.. wanna see if they get more than the 512k "Speeds".. Would be interesting to find out.. Oh and i assume it allows P2P? Are International torrents slow during the day? Shaped?

*EDIT

Nevermind, i see No P2P Allowed (eg : Torrents, Limewire, etc.), but unlimited access to IS News Server. No interest anymore

Anyhow im an openweb fan.

 

[jmk]

Hi Freaksta

These Uncapped accounts are hybrid accounts and not simply resold IS accounts (although we do those as well). They have been developed specifically by Imagine IPS.

 

[bwana]

Whats the difference between selling an 'uncapped' 384 line and a 96gb capped line, besides marketing spin?

How about someone sells me a 96gb account for r800 and lets me download at my line speed.

Alternatively you could stop calling it uncapped when there is a very real limitation on the line, iow a cap.

 

[PearlJam]

R 912 inc VAT that means we are R 88 cheaper than anyone else. One question, if we can provide a cheaper service than anyone else, don't you as a user benefit ? so why complain ? Further to this, we will not include prices that are VAT inc, or state (ex VAT).

Because of my statement ? I think you then have taken it the wrong way. My point was VAT inc or VAT ex, its still the cheapest in the market.

If that was your point what does that last sentence mean?

 

[Syndyre]

Whats the difference between selling an 'uncapped' 384 line and a 96gb capped line, besides marketing spin?

How about someone sells me a 96gb account for r800 and lets me download at my line speed.

Alternatively you could stop calling it uncapped when there is a very real limitation on the line, iow a cap.

I guess they're hoping people won't actually download to the max...

 

[Necuno]

I guess they're hoping people won't actually download to the max...

or in succession

:edit:

one should ask this as well - if its uncapped which would mean unlimited supply of data that can be downloaded

why is it priced differently between 384, 512, 1024 ?

are we paying a penalty tax for the increase in network traffic -


R50.00 tollgate doesn't mean you have to drive 100km p/h....

 

[Necuno]

Whats the difference between selling an 'uncapped' 384 line and a 96gb capped line, besides marketing spin?

How about someone sells me a 96gb account for r800 and lets me download at my line speed.

Alternatively you could stop calling it uncapped when there is a very real limitation on the line, iow a cap.

maybe its time for e-probe into this 'uncapped' business...

 

[matt156]

or in succession

:edit:

one should ask this as well - if its uncapped which would mean unlimited supply of data that can be downloaded

why is it priced differently between 384, 512, 1024 ?

are we paying a penalty tax for the increase in network traffic -


R50.00 tollgate doesn't mean you have to drive 100km p/h....

The cost to the ISP is proportional to the speed of access that must be supplied. To make a proper comparison to your tollgate scenario, the cost to the toll agency does not depend on how fast you drive, but on the weight of your car, and therefore the wear and tear to the roads. Thus heavier vehicles are charged more for toll gates than lighter vehicles.

The 'uncapped' term refers to the amount of bandwidth that may be utilized, and not the speed of the service.

 

[Freaksta]

As far as i know, ISP work out the cost of the account by you MAX data that you would be able to download.. And they hope you do not download the max so they can make some profit..

Also ISP have to Pay connection costs.. And this depends on what speed you lines works on.. Therefor it cost them more money if you are on a 1024k line than on a 384k line because you only using 40kbs instead of 1024kbs. Thus making it cheaper for the 384k account..

EDIT* What matt156 said.. Good explination

 

[Syndyre]

The 'uncapped' term refers to the amount of bandwidth that may be utilized, and not the speed of the service.

But doesn't bandwidth = speed?

In computer networking literature, digital bandwidth often refers to data rate measured in bit/s, for example channel capacity (digital bandwidth capacity) or throughput (digital bandwidth consumption). The reason for this usage is that the channel capacity in bit/s is proportional to the analogue bandwidth in Hertz according to Hartley's law.

I know what you mean though if transfer limit/cap was substituted for bandwidth.

 

[Necuno]

As far as i know, ISP work out the cost of the account by you MAX data that you would be able to download.. And they hope you do not download the max so they can make some profit..

Also ISP have to Pay connection costs.. And this depends on what speed you lines works on.. Therefor it cost them more money if you are on a 1024k line than on a 384k line because you only using 40kbs instead of 1024kbs. Thus making it cheaper for the 384k account..

EDIT* What matt156 said.. Good explination

something like this

[ fictional amounts ]
384 'uncapped' -> 5 x 20G accounts @ R180.00 = 100G -> R900
512 'uncapped' -> 5 x 20G accounts @ R260.00 = 100G -> R1300
1024'uncapped' -> 5 x 20G accounts @ R400.00 = 100G -> R2000
...

 

[lsuacner]

I am a management accountant, CIMA managerial level, if you quote me a price without VAT, include a calculation showing VAT inc on your invoice. If you make me go through that calculation, I will rather spend R88 more on a professional provider, which will give me quality professional service, rather than dodgy marketing scams.

 

[Necuno]

... or its a pooling of CAP between users, o well who knows.

 

[bwana]

The 'uncapped' term refers to the amount of bandwidth that may be utilized, and not the speed of the service.

Bandwidth is speed.

EDIT - as Syndyre pointed out

 

[mancombseepgood]

vat

lesson: quote ex vat 2 a vat vendor and inc vat to an end user. or if you arenut sure, inc vat makes the vendor feel like he is getting a better deal and makes him happy. but least there arent any nasty surprises.