bekdik
Honorary Master
Why doesnt someone just take an hour out of their day and phone telkom helpline?
And how do you think that would help?
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And how do you think that would help?
Hi folks
According to TelkomInternet the previous policy holds and that users will be hard-capped once you reach the ‘threshold’. I will try to get more details regarding Telkom’s ADSL plans soon, but our contact person at Telkom is unfortunately not back yet…
Regards,
RPM
According to TelkomInternet the previous policy holds and that users will be hard-capped once you reach the ‘threshold’. I will try to get more details regarding Telkom’s ADSL plans soon, but our contact person at Telkom is unfortunately not back yet…
Regards,
RPM
Roman4604
Executive Member
I'm sure their tack will be that video services are not classified as Internet access since they will be provided through a seperate 'closed' video serving network ... pretty much like the Vlive! APN on Vodacom where you dont pay for traffic but rather content purchased/downloaded, and this in no way influences or affects your usage of the normal internet APN.
bekdik
Honorary Master
The rules would be different for streaming video. As I recollect you wpuldn't have Internet access on this connection.
Maybe one of the testers can comment.
Ok i am not explaining myself very well!!!
However they package it at a network level is irrelevant. The fact that they can(or will be able to) provide an IPTV service implies they physically have the network to allow uncapped local.
IE If they have the fiber in the ground sufficient for an IPTV network then they have the capacity to offer uncapped local.
bekdik
Honorary Master
I do not think that Telkom's capping policy has very much to do with infrastructure. It is all to do with ripping off as much as possible for as long as possible.
Agreed.
but telkom will tell you that the capping policy is to prevent the minority "abusers" from degrading the network for the majority. This argument cannot hold anymore as the majority (iptv viewer) will be using far more resources than the few "abusers" ever could.
Oh well lets see what telkom's spindoctors come up with this time.
I think 50GB per month on a 4Mbit will be way more reasonable at the prices we pay. I use that anyways with both my TelkomInternet accounts, but the point is, I gotta stress and download like mad for 2 days in a month. With set 50GB I dont have to put everything in a space of 24 hours.
Lol yup it would be alot better than hammering 30 gigs out in the 24 hours i have 
i dunno what telkom do, we don't seem to be moving forward to fast 
And when you go on int. torrent sites and see people moaning cause there 100mbit lines are only going at 8Mb/s, then complaining that there ISP warned them for doing 10TB of data
i dunno what telkom do, we don't seem to be moving forward to fast And when you go on int. torrent sites and see people moaning cause there 100mbit lines are only going at 8Mb/s, then complaining that there ISP warned them for doing 10TB of data
Roman4604
Executive Member
Again you are simplifying a slightly more complex situation.
Of course Telkom have the infrastructure capacity to support uncapped local on their network, however most ppl refer to 'local' as the amalgamation of the public networks of all the ISPs in SA.
An example of what can happen (& has happened in the past) ... Telkom implement uncapped local, this results in a large increase in traffic on say IS's network cos their content is desired by Telkom's ADSL users. IS say to Telkom you owe us money for the additional capacity we need to invest in to support your demanding users. Telkom gives them the finger, peering links between Telkom & IS are clogged and unusable ... great so what has that achieved from the perspective of unmetered local access?
There seems to be a change! Try to order online from Telkom and there you'll read:
Should you reach your cap with this option the capping rules change slightly - you will be assigned a new IP range which will put you on a throttled international link and international service could be non-existent, since it depends on the amount of capped subscribers on this link and will therefore become increasingly slower as the month progresses. Once capped your local bandwidth will remain as is and you will still have full access to any local sites and email hosted on local servers. Please note that this does not apply to sites with international links.
Should you reach your cap with this option the capping rules change slightly - you will be assigned a new IP range which will put you on a throttled international link and international service could be non-existent, since it depends on the amount of capped subscribers on this link and will therefore become increasingly slower as the month progresses. Once capped your local bandwidth will remain as is and you will still have full access to any local sites and email hosted on local servers. Please note that this does not apply to sites with international links.
It is only on the 3Gb shaped service - the 2 Gb stays the same? https://online.telkomsa.net/external/
Ok lets scrap uncapped local - Telkom and IS cannot negotiate a peering link.
Seriously leaving aside IS's isp service, who would loose its only competitive advantage of large local accounts, IS as a web hosting company, must be in favour of uncapped local. They derive their revenue from users accessing web pages hosted on their servers, either directly charging hosts per MB, or through general growth in the number of hosted sites as broadband becomes more affordable.
I never bothered to get the facts of the previous peering dispute assuming it to be a telkom's fault, but if IS did expect Telkom to pay for IS's upgrade, as you described, then appologies telkom.
Have you got a link? I've got a feeling this is their horribly outdated signup page
Its on the sign up page!!!
xistenz
Well-Known Member
Roman4604
Executive Member
No I was trying to illustrate that Telkom's ability/infrastructure to deliver IPTV has little to do with local Internet access (of all SA based Internet content, resources & users) as they only represent a part of what is 'local'.
Anyway this is deviating from the main problem I mentioned above ... if you are not technically capable of accounting for local and intl traffic seperately, you cant launch a service that only counts intl towards your cap ... nothing to do with your ability to deliver the traffic itself.
My example was fictitious tho I did mention similar occurances have happened in the past. IS was the one that wished to up the peering link at equal cost, but Telkom demanded that IS pay the costs (and Telkom itself if I'm not mistaken), as they claimed the source of the additional traffic was the (substanital) ADSL accounts of a customer of IS.
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Sorry then, look like I were getting exited about nothing!! Maybe I should order the 3Gb advanced option and when I get capped complain at Telkom Customer Service - it really is not my problem if the page is outdated!! It's not fair that they give wrong information on the signup page!!!