Uncapped, unshapped Iburst Cost?

Food for thought...

Luke7777 said:
Re the lower speed/higher cap options proposed above, I'm sure a lot of ppl will prefer/consider a 256K/nocap over a 1M/3GB cap.
Something else that should also be considered is the following: If your location does not allow you to *ever* reach speeds of 1Mb, why should you be forced to pay the same as someone that resides within the 'dark green zone" ?
This is exactly why I am disappointed with the launch packages - I was expecting WBS to follow the trend that PBA (iBurst) Australia, Telkomonopoly and Sentech have set in offering different speed options.

What I have noticed now since last year November is that speeds on iBurst tend to fluctuate (maybe a lot of that was techie tweaking on the network - only WBS will know), so while today I may not be able to get 500Kbits/s, maybe tomorrow I will, and the day after maybe I will get 20Kbits/s...

The point is, if WBS actually have a system in place to throttle speed down to 64Kbits/s, then why not have packages that give maximum speeds that are multiples of 64Kbits/s...?

I think the answer to this debate lies with the way that WBS appear to be structuring their business model, i.e. how they intend to turn a profit.

Looking at the launch packages, it looks like WBS have structured their entire business model & profit making, on bandwidth alone, this is evidenced by the apparent high prices of packages, as well as the price of additional bandwidth. A lot like the way Telkomonopoly are cross-subsidising and simultaneously over-charging.

I think the economies of scale point is extremely relevant, and is a proven way of establishing such a business, you just have to look at Sentech to see that with few customers the entire business model falls apart. Rather give us more options & flexibility & we the consumers will pick that which best suites our needs, and more than likely upgrade if we are in areas where higher speeds are possible...
 
personallt I don't want to download at 256, 512 or whatever, I think there should be n uncapped 1mbit option (doesn't even need to be unshaped) and maybe 2mbit??
 
In my mind adjusting the speed of the capped packages is not really gonna change the price that much.
You are paying for how much you download and not the speed you download it at.

The only difference a packages speed would make is the theorectical limit of data you can pull down a month.

i.e 1mbps = Theorectical download limit of 324 Gb a month.
256kbps = Theorectical download limit 81 gb a month.

I'd love a 256kbps connection with a 10gb cap.... but I don't see it happening.

BTW.... R1500 - R1750 for uncapped shaped service. Here the lower speeds might make a difference to the price. I.E a 256Kbps package pulls less data per month than 1 mbps package so cheaper :p
 
slimothy said:
personallt I don't want to download at 256, 512 or whatever, I think there should be n uncapped 1mbit option (doesn't even need to be unshaped) and maybe 2mbit??
It seems the only way I would ever get consistently high speeds is if I turned gay & moved in with Slimothy, bcos whilst I'm a lot happier with the speeds from Olivedale-BS, it still is nowhere near 1MBits/s, I would rather pay a figure that's closer to what I am getting (on average).
 
LandyMan said:
My nose bleeds for you my friend ... I have been online since 1 April, with one forced disconnect on the reset of the cap, and a manual reset to check their BW meter. Been running VPN's, downloading MPG's, etc etc, and according to them I have only used 50 Mb ... what a bargain

pleh! This just means that their BW measuring software is totally borked! :(
 
TheYak said:
pleh! This just means that their BW measuring software is totally borked! :(

I know, but it makes me feel better every time I get that e-mail in the morning ... Now that is customer satisfaction. It might be a load of BS, but at least they are making me feel better ... thanks WBS! :D
 
ic said:
It seems the only way I would ever get consistently high speeds is if I turned gay & moved in with Slimothy
dude you'd need to hook me up with an uncapped 2gbit line to even consider getting me to turn gay part time

WBS say those magical words two and mbit to me pleeeeeeeeease
because I was happy(ish) but now that I think about it.... 1mbit isn't enough :(
 
My wishes

Shaun, WBS should give you a raise. I find this a noble thread that you started.

I really dont mind paying R600.00 for uncapped :p . I dont think I will be using more than 3gigz a month. If you do that you would give the download addicts a permanent fix and WBS will kick the likes of Telkom, Sentech and 3G.

Realisticaly I know that an optimum offer will be a blend of sacreficing profits during a predetermined rampup period, providing a differentiated service that's received well by the market and ensures sustained market capture. I sound like a product manager? Offer me a job. I'm sure I'll figure it out.
 
why cap in the first place? doesn't get anyone anywhere, eventhough we are soooooo behind everyone else in the world. its about time, they jacked up everything and started charging normal prices and presenting normal packages like the major isp's overseas.
 
jjtoymachine said:
Shaun lets first talk about uncapped local...LOL
Methinks this thread possibly exists bcos only 3 forumites have so far voted for:
Give me this, I am prepared to pay extra for it
(in the Local Bandwidth polling thread)
 
local uncapped is a kick in the balls, just give me uncapped international and I'm set
 
Im not gonna pay extra, i would rather get paid to surf at this rate
 
gigtech said:
Im not gonna pay extra, i would rather get paid to surf at this rate
Are you still downloading without being capped?
 
well, yes, however today it seems it would be easier to go to the post office and wait.....and wait.....
 
I know how to get your download faster:
ask a person in the US or whever you're downloading from to burn it on a dvd and then put the dvd on the floor and wait for it to evolve legs and walk to you.
 
so darwins theory is correct! how wonderful. think i will do that. shouldn't take that long before i recieve it unless it has a personality complex
 
slimothy said:
I know how to get your download faster:
ask a person in the US or whever you're downloading from to burn it on a dvd and then put the dvd on the floor and wait for it to evolve legs and walk to you.
HAHAHAHAHA...thanks now my day hasnt been a complete waste!
 
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