XennoX
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With the amount of people in authority (Teachers) taking advantage of children these days, I wouldn't be all that surprised to be honest.
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Uproar over matric rape question
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With the amount of people in authority (Teachers) taking advantage of children these days, I wouldn't be all that surprised to be honest.
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
Y'all Qaeda
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All it takes for a sicko to snap would be reading this, starting the fantasies and then acting on those fantasies. disgusting.
Fulcrum29
Honorary Master
Thanks Librarian,
Nothing wrong with question 11.3.1, will not say the same about question 11.3.2, especially putting attention to "maximise" the outcome. This ain't a suitable question to be answered by children so I will stand by my original remark.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Education department considers baby rape exam question
The basic education department will consider excluding a question about baby rape from a matric exam paper.
"To ensure that no candidate has been negatively affected, the department will mark a sample of the scripts of learners from all nine provinces... to establish any possible disadvantage to the candidates," the department said in a statement on Wednesday.
This was after media reports that pupils, teachers, and parents were upset by a question that asked pupils how best to dramatically represent the rape of a baby, symbolically using a loaf of bread and a broomstick.
"If there is evidence that candidates have been affected by this question, the question will be excluded from the question paper and the marking guidelines will be adjusted accordingly," the department said.
The exam question was about Lara Foot Newton's play "Tshepang", based on real events.
The purpose of the question was to assess pupils' understanding of the concept of "action metaphor".
"The horror and aversion the audience feels is achieved without resorting to an actual rape.
"...Nowhere is it expected of the candidate to have to literally describe the actual act of raping a nine-month-old baby."
The examiners and moderators responsible for the exam question were within the prescripts of the curriculum, the department said.
"Further, Grade 12 learners are young adults who are fully aware of the social issues confronting our country, and dramatic arts... are powerful vehicles for creating social awareness and education to societal issues that need to be addressed to bring about change."
The internal moderator said the pupils were expected to explain how the symbols of the broomstick and bread could be used to make an audience feel the horror of child rape, using props, lighting, sound and stage directions.
"[The question] is valid and fair because the rape of babies is a relevant societal issue."
The Witness reported on Wednesday that parents, pupils, and teachers intended complaining to the department over the question, asking that all pupils be awarded the 15 marks allocated to it.
The memo for marking the exam was expected to be discussed at a meeting in Pretoria on Wednesday.
Baby Tshepang, as she became known, was raped in the Northern Cape when she was 11 months old in 2001. She had to have extensive reconstructive surgery as a result of the attack.
Source : Sapa /mjs/fg/jje/jk
Date : 27 Nov 2013 09:52
The basic education department will consider excluding a question about baby rape from a matric exam paper.
"To ensure that no candidate has been negatively affected, the department will mark a sample of the scripts of learners from all nine provinces... to establish any possible disadvantage to the candidates," the department said in a statement on Wednesday.
This was after media reports that pupils, teachers, and parents were upset by a question that asked pupils how best to dramatically represent the rape of a baby, symbolically using a loaf of bread and a broomstick.
"If there is evidence that candidates have been affected by this question, the question will be excluded from the question paper and the marking guidelines will be adjusted accordingly," the department said.
The exam question was about Lara Foot Newton's play "Tshepang", based on real events.
The purpose of the question was to assess pupils' understanding of the concept of "action metaphor".
"The horror and aversion the audience feels is achieved without resorting to an actual rape.
"...Nowhere is it expected of the candidate to have to literally describe the actual act of raping a nine-month-old baby."
The examiners and moderators responsible for the exam question were within the prescripts of the curriculum, the department said.
"Further, Grade 12 learners are young adults who are fully aware of the social issues confronting our country, and dramatic arts... are powerful vehicles for creating social awareness and education to societal issues that need to be addressed to bring about change."
The internal moderator said the pupils were expected to explain how the symbols of the broomstick and bread could be used to make an audience feel the horror of child rape, using props, lighting, sound and stage directions.
"[The question] is valid and fair because the rape of babies is a relevant societal issue."
The Witness reported on Wednesday that parents, pupils, and teachers intended complaining to the department over the question, asking that all pupils be awarded the 15 marks allocated to it.
The memo for marking the exam was expected to be discussed at a meeting in Pretoria on Wednesday.
Baby Tshepang, as she became known, was raped in the Northern Cape when she was 11 months old in 2001. She had to have extensive reconstructive surgery as a result of the attack.
Source : Sapa /mjs/fg/jje/jk
Date : 27 Nov 2013 09:52
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
DUMB and DUMBER
Ag, it is useless to argue with idiots.
Although this specific question is utterly disgusting, it is also true that this is the way the basic education system works from Grade 1 right through to Grade 12. There are hundreds, if not thousands of such examples in text books, and specifically where certain grade children are given work not applicable to them in their grade or have not yet been teached to them.
I can understand that many may be disgusted at this specific question, but many have no right to blame the education department. As with a prior incident, many of you agreed that there is nothing wrong to give work - not learnt to or applicable to a grade 4 child - many claiming that it will stimulate further thinking and that it is a good thing done by the education department.
So, for the two-faced, totally undecided posters here on this forum, decide who you want to blame. The person asking the question or the education department. You can't blame both as you condone many things that are not right in the system one moment and the have problems with the next.
I can understand that many may be disgusted at this specific question, but many have no right to blame the education department. As with a prior incident, many of you agreed that there is nothing wrong to give work - not learnt to or applicable to a grade 4 child - many claiming that it will stimulate further thinking and that it is a good thing done by the education department.
So, for the two-faced, totally undecided posters here on this forum, decide who you want to blame. The person asking the question or the education department. You can't blame both as you condone many things that are not right in the system one moment and the have problems with the next.
grok
Honorary Master
I don't see a problem with the question in context, but ffs Mhlanga what kind of 'kultcha' regards the raping of month old babies as an normal, everyday occurrence?
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
I blame both the person asking the question and the education department.
But at the end of the day, I blame the ANC for being the real idiots behind the entire mess that is our current education system.
But at the end of the day, I blame the ANC for being the real idiots behind the entire mess that is our current education system.
Ockie
Resident Lead Bender
Dont agree with you. This question simply cannot be excused. The only way this would be ok for me as exam question is if it was used in a exam for students in college studying psychology or something like that and they had to do a thesis on child abuse or something.
My friend in the UK just could not believe this. He was horrified!!
gregmcc
Honorary Master
I'm speechless!!
It is absolutely normal in some cultures as they are often of the believe that raping a baby could cure aids and killing babies could help with making muti. So, yes, for the education department and in fact the South African government this is pretty normal and nothing wrong with the question.
They will probably later turn the tables and blame people for not accepting other cultures...
You won't find this sort of shyte in an IEB exam ! I don't get how the fck the state education dept even considers allowing learners to read this kind of shyte. Perhaps a contributing factor in some or the other way to the violent nature of some kids, recently exposed from state schools. For rape of babies to be deemed a regular or normal occurrence in our society, is in itself a fkcuing traversty ! National Education dept, go fck yourselves ! :wtf:
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Pupils offended by rape question were 'unprepared' : Umalusi
Drama pupils offended by a question relating to baby rape in a matric exam paper were unprepared, examination authorities said on Wednesday.
Umalusi, the external quality assurance council that approved the exam, said dramatic arts was a subject that aimed to equip pupils by freeing their minds of bigotry and prejudice.
"That some learners by implication were offended by the question means the outcomes of the subject were not achieved," spokesman Lucky Ditaunyane said in a statement.
"[T]herefore the learners are conceptually conflating and fudging the real issue of not being test wise and test prepared in dealing with the levels of difficulty and complexity of the test items."
Some pupils, teachers, and parents were reportedly upset by a question that asked pupils how best to dramatically represent the rape of a baby, symbolically using a loaf of bread and a broomstick. The exam question was based on Lara Foot Newton's play "Tshepang", based on real events.
Ditaunyane said Umalusi's subject experts and moderators were sensitive to issues of national concern such as rape, violence, and abuse. It was also important to consider that great dramatic works were contextual, historical, and socially relevant.
The exam question was about how a social issue could be made theatrically engaging, Ditaunyane said.
Earlier, the basic education department said in a statement it would consider excluding the question from the exam.
"To ensure that no candidate has been negatively affected, the department will mark a sample of the scripts of learners from all nine provinces... to establish any possible disadvantage to the candidates," it said.
"If there is evidence that candidates have been affected by this question, the question will be excluded from the question paper and the marking guidelines will be adjusted accordingly."
The department said the examiners and moderators responsible for the exam question were within the prescripts of the curriculum.
The purpose of the question was to assess pupils' understanding of an "action metaphor".
"The horror and aversion the audience feels is achieved without resorting to an actual rape... Nowhere is it expected of the candidate to have to literally describe the actual act of raping a nine-month-old baby."
The department believed that matric pupils, as young adults, were aware of South African social issues.
According to the department the internal moderator said the pupils were expected to explain how the broomstick and bread could be used to make an audience feel the horror of child rape, using props, lighting, sound, and stage directions.
"[The question] is valid and fair because the rape of babies is a relevant societal issue."
Source : Sapa /mjs/hdw/th/jk
Date : 27 Nov 2013 15:28
Drama pupils offended by a question relating to baby rape in a matric exam paper were unprepared, examination authorities said on Wednesday.
Umalusi, the external quality assurance council that approved the exam, said dramatic arts was a subject that aimed to equip pupils by freeing their minds of bigotry and prejudice.
"That some learners by implication were offended by the question means the outcomes of the subject were not achieved," spokesman Lucky Ditaunyane said in a statement.
"[T]herefore the learners are conceptually conflating and fudging the real issue of not being test wise and test prepared in dealing with the levels of difficulty and complexity of the test items."
Some pupils, teachers, and parents were reportedly upset by a question that asked pupils how best to dramatically represent the rape of a baby, symbolically using a loaf of bread and a broomstick. The exam question was based on Lara Foot Newton's play "Tshepang", based on real events.
Ditaunyane said Umalusi's subject experts and moderators were sensitive to issues of national concern such as rape, violence, and abuse. It was also important to consider that great dramatic works were contextual, historical, and socially relevant.
The exam question was about how a social issue could be made theatrically engaging, Ditaunyane said.
Earlier, the basic education department said in a statement it would consider excluding the question from the exam.
"To ensure that no candidate has been negatively affected, the department will mark a sample of the scripts of learners from all nine provinces... to establish any possible disadvantage to the candidates," it said.
"If there is evidence that candidates have been affected by this question, the question will be excluded from the question paper and the marking guidelines will be adjusted accordingly."
The department said the examiners and moderators responsible for the exam question were within the prescripts of the curriculum.
The purpose of the question was to assess pupils' understanding of an "action metaphor".
"The horror and aversion the audience feels is achieved without resorting to an actual rape... Nowhere is it expected of the candidate to have to literally describe the actual act of raping a nine-month-old baby."
The department believed that matric pupils, as young adults, were aware of South African social issues.
According to the department the internal moderator said the pupils were expected to explain how the broomstick and bread could be used to make an audience feel the horror of child rape, using props, lighting, sound, and stage directions.
"[The question] is valid and fair because the rape of babies is a relevant societal issue."
Source : Sapa /mjs/hdw/th/jk
Date : 27 Nov 2013 15:28
grok
Honorary Master
Gotta confess I didn't read every detail but I understood the question was asked in context of a play.
If the play had a breadroll, a broom and a baby-rape then of course the question was valid in that context, even though the subject matter is considered abhorrent.
Mhlanga's explanation however was