US Election 2020 - Pt 3

[Kieppie]

Now, imagine this post was mine....

... but it was about BLM protestors.

The difference is the BLM riots are responsible for over $2B in damage and 33 lives lost. So sure if you take away all that then yes exactly the same.

Anyway seems that Donnie didn't actually know who the Proud Boys are kinda like when he was asked about Qanon.

Trump—Who Gave The Proud Boys A Major Shoutout—Now Claims He Doesn’t Know Who They Are

"I don't know who the Proud Boys are," Trump told reporters on Wednesday.

www.forbes.com

 

[OrbitalDawn]

An unintended consequence of Donnie's debate, I wanna say... 'strategy'.

Biden smashes fundraising records during chaotic debate

They need to distribute to state legislative candidates. It's way past the point of saturation for the Presidential race and many of the Senate races.

This dude does good work on that:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311388785465323522

 

[OrbitalDawn]

As Trump Equivocates on White Supremacy, the FBI Warns of Right-Wing Terror

An intelligence report dated the day of the presidential debate predicts a “violent extremist threat” posed by a far-right militia.

www.thenation.com

The FBI issued an intelligence report warning of an imminent “violent extremist threat” posed by a far-right militia that includes white supremacists—identifying the current election period up to the 2021 inauguration as a “potential flashpoint.”

The report, obtained exclusively by The Nation and titled “Boogaloo Adherents Likely Increasing Anti-Government Violent Rhetoric and Activities, Increasing Domestic Violent Extremist Threat in the FBI Dallas Area of Responsibility,” warns of the threat posed by the far-right militia group known as the “Boogaloos.” Marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY and LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE, the document was prepared by the FBI’s Dallas Field Office and is dated September 29, 2020. It draws on a wide array of intelligence sources, making specific mention of human sources—suggesting the Bureau may have confidential informants within the group.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Are the not-white supremacists Proud Boys going to modify their logo to Stand Down now?


Trump tells far right to 'stand down' amid white supremacy row https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54359993

I actually think it was Trump not being able to get the correct phrase out of his mouth which resulted in the "stand back and stand by" debacle.
Nothing to do with his refusal to denounce White Supremacists at the debate, however, but yah just a result of an ageing, never-too-bright brain.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

A great long-read about Trump and the GOP's BS on voter fraud, its historic roots and how it's being used to disenfranchise voters.

How Trump’s ‘Voter Fraud’ Lie Is Disenfranchising Americans (Published 2020)

The president is harnessing the power of the government, from the Department of Homeland Security to the Postal Service, to disrupt the election. Read the magazine’s five-month investigation.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Also I had a good chuckle at the "don't ever use the word smart with me" blooper.

 

[R13...]

That seems to be the go to defense of people here who can't argue facts.
Just because you agree with someone on certain issues does not mean you're a supporter. That us vs them mentality is squarely on the far-left. Which as far as I believe you are not a part of. So why sink to that level?
It's actually funny that people can compare Zuma and Trump where about the only similarity is populism.

There's actually a few of these lol,

What Trump has got in common with Zuma - NYT - BizNews.com

The New York Times reckons Trump and Zuma have a lot in common and is optimistic that both will come right in the end. Reading between the lines, there’s a bigger clean-up required for South Africa.

www.biznews.com

Zuma and Trump: half a world apart, yet similarly paranoid and dangerous

Trump and Zuma seek to sell explanations of their misfortunes to the socially insecure and economically vulnerable. To an alarming extent they succeed.

theconversation.com

Watch: Trevor Noah fully compares Zuma and Trump, the similarities are uncanny [video]

So much in common!

www.thesouthafrican.com

 

[R13...]

So spake GRRM:
I have never seen anything like what I witnessed last night.

It was appalling. Offensive. Disgusting. Donald Trump was bad four years ago in his debates with Hillary Clinton, but last night he set new records for being offensive, obnoxious, and rude. He ranted, he raved, he shouted, he interrupted again and again and again and AGAIN, refusing to let Joe Biden finish a sentence without breaking in. He spoke over Biden, he spoke over the moderator, he ignored the questions, he ignored the rules — rules his own campaign had negotiated and agreed to — he told shocking lies, and doubled down when called on them, he engaged in smears and personal attacks, he tried to discredit the result of the vote before most of America has even voted.

 

[wbot]

All this attention on the proud boys all of a sudden is amazing. All this because Trump didn't say what the left wanted to hear or what they demanded.

What exactly have the proud boys done that is so incredibly evil? Honest question. Let's all forget about blm's looting and violence and antifa's arson and destruction, riots, assault, intimidation, police attacks and murders or terrorism. And yet the proud boys is the biggest threat in the US. Doesn't make any sense. Who exactly have the proud boys murdered? What did they burn down? How many businesses did they destroy or loot? And why are they white supremacists when half of them aren't even white?

From what I could see is that the evil proud boys gathered or paraded peacefully a few times without any violence and then a few times they confronted violent blm/antifa hooligans. Most of the time it's violent blm attacking them, not the other way around.

Why exactly do the left want Trump to condemn them so badly? I don't understand.

 

[Azbubu]

And why are they white supremacists when half of them aren’t even white

Half of them? I keep hearing that they “allow” black and non-white members but haven’t seen any of those anywhere. And the often recurring comment of them having a Hispanic leader.

 

[wbot]

Half of them? I keep hearing that they “allow” black and non-white members but haven’t seen any of those anywhere. And the often recurring comment of them having a Hispanic leader.

I've seen quite a few non white members and plenty of non white supporters including non white women. I didn't mean half of them literally. Also I see according to their wiki men of other races have joind the proud boys because of their advocacy for men.

And yes their chairman is Enrique Tarrio. He's half black half Cuban

 

[cerebus]

 

[cerebus]

Police arrest Proud Boy member on assault and gun charges hours after Trump refuses to denounce white supremacy

Arrest follows president’s controversial comments at debate: 'Proud Boys – stand back and stand by’

www.independent.co.uk

Police arrest Proud Boy member on assault and gun charges hours after Trump refuses to denounce white supremacy

A member of the right-wing hate group Proud Boys was arrested in Oregon the morning after the first presidential debate, in which Donald Trump declined to disavow white supremacy, for assault and weapons charges resulting from a confrontation he had with protestors in August.

Alan Swinney, who Oregon Public Broadcasting identified as a member of Proud Boys and the far-right protester that pointed a gun at demonstrators in downtown Portland last month, was arrested on Wednesday morning on multiple assault charges. He also faced charges for unlawful use of a weapon and unlawful use of tear gas, stun gun or mace, the outlet reported, as well as pointing a firearm at another person.

 

[rietrot]

Police arrest Proud Boy member on assault and gun charges hours after Trump refuses to denounce white supremacy

Arrest follows president’s controversial comments at debate: 'Proud Boys – stand back and stand by’

www.independent.co.uk

Police arrest Proud Boy member on assault and gun charges hours after Trump refuses to denounce white supremacy

A member of the right-wing hate group Proud Boys was arrested in Oregon the morning after the first presidential debate, in which Donald Trump declined to disavow white supremacy, for assault and weapons charges resulting from a confrontation he had with protestors in August.

Alan Swinney, who Oregon Public Broadcasting identified as a member of Proud Boys and the far-right protester that pointed a gun at demonstrators in downtown Portland last month, was arrested on Wednesday morning on multiple assault charges. He also faced charges for unlawful use of a weapon and unlawful use of tear gas, stun gun or mace, the outlet reported, as well as pointing a firearm at another person.

Fake news.

 

[greg0205]

All this attention on the proud boys all of a sudden is amazing. All this because Trump didn't say what the left wanted to hear or what they demanded.

What exactly have the proud boys done that is so incredibly evil? Honest question. Let's all forget about blm's looting and violence and antifa's arson and destruction, riots, assault, intimidation, police attacks and murders or terrorism. And yet the proud boys is the biggest threat in the US. Doesn't make any sense. Who exactly have the proud boys murdered? What did they burn down? How many businesses did they destroy or loot? And why are they white supremacists when half of them aren't even white?

From what I could see is that the evil proud boys gathered or paraded peacefully a few times without any violence and then a few times they confronted violent blm/antifa hooligans. Most of the time it's violent blm attacking them, not the other way around.

Why exactly do the left want Trump to condemn them so badly? I don't understand.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311413755633381381

2 Proud Boys members sentenced to 4 years over NYC melee

Two members of the far-right Proud Boys have each been sentenced to four years in prison for their part in a street fight that followed a speech last year at New York's Metropolitan Republican Club

abcnews.go.com

News

www.kptv.com

Proud Boy Threatens Portland Mayor: 'I'm Coming For You'

Proud Boy and Patriot Prayer collaborator Reggie Axtell threatened Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, saying that his days are “f------ numbered.” His threats come amidst a mounting campaign by far-right reactionaries in the Pacific Northwest to harass and dox their political rivals.

www.splcenter.org

The FBI list them as a white supremacist hate group.

They were at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville where Heather Heyer was murdered. One of their members was an organiser.

They have a tactical defense arm called the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights. It's run by this guy.

They're banned from Facebook, Insta, YouTube and Twitter.

Fred Perry stopped making one of it's shirts 'cos Proud Boys were wearing them and they didn't want the association.




... But yeah, wbot, what could possibly be the problem with Proud Boys.

 

[buka001]

Remembering the time about the guy who mailed bombs to Hillary, Obama and CNN.

I can't seem to think why I was reminded about him.

His van was colourful.

 

[rietrot]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311413755633381381

2 Proud Boys members sentenced to 4 years over NYC melee

Two members of the far-right Proud Boys have each been sentenced to four years in prison for their part in a street fight that followed a speech last year at New York's Metropolitan Republican Club

abcnews.go.com

News

www.kptv.com

Proud Boy Threatens Portland Mayor: 'I'm Coming For You'

Proud Boy and Patriot Prayer collaborator Reggie Axtell threatened Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, saying that his days are “f------ numbered.” His threats come amidst a mounting campaign by far-right reactionaries in the Pacific Northwest to harass and dox their political rivals.

www.splcenter.org

The FBI list them as a white supremacist hate group.

They were at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville where Heather Heyer was murdered. One of their members was an organiser.

They have a tactical defense arm called the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights. It's run by this guy.

They're banned from Facebook, Insta, YouTube and Twitter.

Fred Perry stopped making one of it's shirts 'cos Proud Boys were wearing them and they didn't want the association.




... But yeah, wbot, what could possibly be the problem with Proud Boys.

The worse thing the proud boys do is engage in couter "protest" with antifa. Which is stupid, but if you view the protest as peaceful to start off with then the proud boys did nothing wrong.

This again puts you in a position were you are a hypocrite.

 

[TheMightyQuin]

Don Lemon and Kamala Harris are striving and calling for the violent overthrow of the federal government?

Good grief, dude. You need to unplug. This is unhinged, conspira-boomer stuff.

Done Lemon - "we will have to burn this system down". Said on TV
Kamala Harris - "even after the elections the rioting will not and must not stop. This is only the beginning."

Wake the fuk up, libtard commie.

 

[rietrot]

Remembering the time about the guy who mailed bombs to Hillary, Obama and CNN.

I can't seem to think why I was reminded about him.

His van was colourful.

What's the point of spamming irrelevant old nonsense Tysonroux.

Nobody supports that guy, everyone agrees that mailing any kind bomb or substance around that is intended to kill or harm people is wrong. Just like the crazy Canadian man/women recently.

 

[greg0205]

The worse thing the proud boys do is engage in couter "protest" with antifa. Which is stupid, but if you view the protest as peaceful to start off with then the proud boys did nothing wrong.

This again puts you in a position were you are a hypocrite.

And if you're here saying everyone should give those poor Proud Boys a break because they get terrible media and are misunderstood, but damn those BLM protestors to hell, you're a straight-up hypocrite