US Election 2020 - Pt 3

Who do you think WILL win the 2020 US presidential election

  • Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D)

    Votes: 166 44.4%

  • Donald J. Trump (R)

    Votes: 208 55.6%
  • Total voters
    374
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Kieppie

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greg0205 said:
The Rose Garden, Saturday:

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John Jenkins, Mike Lee and Melania, all positive, circled.

Also in the pic, Mike Pence, Bill Barr and Kevin McCarthy
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So by triangulation the woman in white is guilty ;P
 
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Pegasus said:
It's like the media don't remember things like this.

thehill.com

Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists

President Trump has signed a resolution condemning white supremacists following violence at a rally in Charlottesville, Va., last month, the White House announced late Thursday.”As Americans,…
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It doesn't really put Trump in a good light, I have to say.

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump defended his widely criticized comments that there were fine people on "both sides" of the violent clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017, saying the utterance was put "perfectly."

"If you look at what I said, you will see that that question was answered perfectly," he told reporters outside the White House on Friday. "I was talking about people who went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee, a great general.”

The violence in Charlottesville erupted after counter-protesters clashed with white nationalists and others who were part of the Unite the Right rally. Those groups were protesting Charlottesville's decision to remove a statue of the Confederate general Robert E. Lee. The violence left one woman dead.

Trump's "both sides" comment prompted bipartisan outrage with many people viewing the wording as equating the actions of the white nationalists to those of the counter-protesters.

“It was not only morally ambiguous, it was equivocating,” then-House Speaker Paul Ryan, a Republican, said at a CNN Town Hall, adding that Trump's comments were "wrong."
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Also, from your article:

A bipartisan group of senators had introduced the measure amid concerns about Trump's response to the violence, which erupted as white nationalists rallied to protest the removal of a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee.
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I mean, some dudes put together a lovely sounding document for Trump to sign, since he flubbed it in the first place, as is tradition.
 
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greg0205 said:
Can't say I care.

I do care that Melania is sitting next to ACB's kids 'tho.
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She wouldn't be contagious at that point. So you should care who spread it to her.
But they're kids so basically as safe as can be.
 
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C4Cat said:
Speaking the truth. How dare they :ROFL:
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If you noted it is under "Opinion" and a earlier opinion piece that promoted crackdown on violence was met with internal protest and a forced resignation yet this one is fine?

The crackdown in Hong Kong was in no way justified. I'm surprised you'd say that.
 
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Kieppie said:
If you noted it is under "Opinion" and a earlier opinion piece that promoted crackdown on violence was met with internal protest and a forced resignation yet this one is fine?

The crackdown in Hong Kong was in no way justified. I'm surprised you'd say that.
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I was just using the word Truth in the same way you do - that is, when something isn't truthful at all. I thought you'd appreciate it.
 
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C4Cat said:
I was just using the word Truth in the same way you do - that is, when something isn't truthful at all. I thought you'd appreciate it.
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The difference is mine was actually truthful, if you followed the journalists that were on the ground as it took place you'd know that. To put it into context of how close they were.
They had an interview with him before the shooting.
Walked with him before he ran off with a fire extinguisher.
One was in line with the first victim in between him and Kyle. He gave first aid to the first victim and went with him to hospital.
The other was in the street when Kyle was pursued by the other two victims passed by.
Oh and the one is a leading witness in the case.
So yes there is a pretty clear view of what happened that night.
 
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Kieppie said:
The difference is mine was actually truthful, if you followed the actual journalists that were on the ground as it took place you'd know that. To put it into context of how close they were.
They had an interview with him before the shooting.
Walked with him before he ran off with a fire extinguisher.
One was in line with the first victim in between him and Kyle. He gave first aid to the first victim and went with him to hospital.
The other was in the street when Kyle was pursued by the other two victims passed by.
Oh and the one is a leading witness in the case.
So yes there is a pretty clear view of what happened that night.
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Oh for goodness sake. In both these cases there is far to much nuance and complexity to simply say this opinion is the truth. Kyle shouldn't have been there with a gun in the first place. That is a fact and something he needs to take responsibility for. He was under age, had no gun licence and took a gun to a riot - what was his intention if not to use it? Your 'truth' is narrow, one sided and lacks any insight or context.
 
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C4Cat said:
Oh for goodness sake. In both these cases there is far to much nuance and complexity to simply say this opinion is the truth. Kyle shouldn't have been there with a gun in the first place. That is a fact and something he needs to take responsibility for. He was under age, had no gun licence and took a gun to a riot - what was his intention if not to use it? Your 'truth' is narrow, one sided and lacks any insight or context.
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That part is true. The police should have been there. They failed.

He's not underage for having a weapon. Legal age is 16. The intention of the gun is to protect himself and the property. That's what you do if you care about your community. He was also there to administer first aid to any protester that might need it. So no not narrow, one sided nor does it lack insight or context.

Edit : Anyway whether you agree or not the point was that Joe Biden used him as an example of “white supremacists” in his ad. Which is wrong and libelous
 
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copacetic said:
Thank you. Trump seems to have gone a bit haywire in the intervening period. I take no issue with what he said there, and after being pretty clear, the journalist 'somehow' got the wrong end of the stick. I should have looked up the video before commenting. :)
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The issue is, there was nobody on the other side who was not a white suprematist/neo-Nazi. That was the entire makeup of the protest. They were marching with tiki lamps shouting Nazi slogans like ‘blood and soil’ and ‘Jews will not replace us.’
 
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cerebus said:
The issue is, there was nobody on the other side who was not a white suprematist/neo-Nazi. That was the entire makeup of the protest. They were marching with tiki lamps shouting Nazi slogans like ‘blood and soil’ and ‘Jews will not replace us.’
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That's incorrect. Just check the wiki page. Some militias were there as well. They did not take part in the tiki march though.

"Pennsylvania Light Foot Militia,[95] the New York Light Foot Militia,[96] the Virginia Minutemen Militia,[97] and the 3 Percenters"
 
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