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rietrot said:
There's court cases against Trump. He settled and he is paying the fines, justice is being done.

Now let's compare that to how Hillary, Obama and Bidden is protected.

If the Dems actually put up a candidate who wasn't more corrupt and guilty of nepotism as well then you guys might have had a leg to stand on. But really you can't criticise Trump and support Bidden. That's just hypocrisy.
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I don't have to point out that this is whataboutism distilled to an oil, do I?
 
greg0205 said:
I don't have to point out that this is whataboutism distilled to an oil, do I?
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Well that's how elections and politics work. You have to compare the people involved and pick the best one.

I agree, Trump has some questionable dealings, you might call that corruption.

So now does that make Bidden a viable alternative. Fsck no!
 
rietrot said:
There's court cases against Trump. He settled and he is paying the fines, justice is being done.

Now let's compare that to how Hillary, Obama and Bidden is protected.

If the Dems actually put up a candidate who wasn't more corrupt and guilty of nepotism as well then you guys might have had a leg to stand on. But really you can't criticise Trump and support Bidden. That's just hypocrisy.
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Trump is being protected from an absolutely staggering number of cases.
 
buka001 said:
You sound like an ANC supporter who lives within their echo chamber and refuses to believe that their party is corrupt.
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I can say exactly the same thing about people who think Obama is the second messiah in all his perfection.

Dodgy stuff like this for example.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016...lessing-of-for-profit-college-takeover-224917

And on the whole, Trump's administration has been much better than Obama's in getting rid of regulations that allow the government to pick winners and losers.

This executive order:
Section 1. Purpose. It is the policy of the executive branch to be prudent and financially responsible in the expenditure of funds, from both public and private sources. In addition to the management of the direct expenditure of taxpayer dollars through the budgeting process, it is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with Federal regulations. Toward that end, it is important that for every one new regulation issued, at least two prior regulations be identified for elimination, and that the cost of planned regulations be prudently managed and controlled through a budgeting process.
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https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...g-regulation-and-controlling-regulatory-costs

does more for fighting corruption than any amount of subcommittees or consultative process you can think of because it removes the source of corruption.
 
The Democrats are their own worst enemy. Because even if Trump is corrupt there is just no alternative. It should be easy to beat Trump if they don't select Hillary, Bidden or a communist to run against him.
 
greg0205 said:
No worries. You can catch him in the Post.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1261041201014280193
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That's definitely a conflict of interest, someone needs to look at it and make sure his businesses are charging the US taxpayers a fair price, and that whoever does the booking are free to select the most appropriate accommodation for example and not just Trump's hotels or whatever.
 
rietrot said:
That's definitely a conflict of interest, someone needs to look at it and make sure his businesses are charging the US taxpayers a fair price, and that whoever does the booking are free to select the most appropriate accommodation for example and not just Trump's hotels or whatever.
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This will sound facetious, but it isn't meant that way at all:

You're so close, rietrot.
 
rietrot said:
My above whataboutism is still very valid.
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Hillary and Obama *aren't* running. Joe is.

The media are fully aware that Obamagate is BS. They've know for years. We all have... And yet they've credulously devoted a news cycle to it because Donnie tweeted "Obamagate".
 
cerebus said:
All your whataboutisms are valid, don't let anyone tell you otherwise
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Well it's also bad that the best the Republicans have to offer is Trump and only because he forced himself in there. The 2016? Republicans primaries was a shítshow with another Bush jnr. and 16 other useless idiots that I can't even remember. Probably worse than the Dem primaries of this year.
 
greg0205 said:
Hillary and Obama *aren't* running. Joe is.

The media are fully aware that Obamagate is BS. They've know for years. We all have... And yet they've credulously devoted a news cycle to it because Donnie tweeted "Obamagate".
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Lol @ "The Media". There's your problem greg. The media isn't an authority on anything. I don't care what their opinion is.

And it should bother you that they have a collective option on Obamagate in the first place.

Joe also doesn't stand alone. Firstly because he can't he'll get lost, and secondly having been Obama's VP is probably the best thing he's got going for him.
 
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rietrot said:
Lol @ "The Media". There's your problem greg. The media isn't an authority on anything. I don't care what their opinion is.

And it should bother you that they have a collective option on Obamagate in the first place.
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Oh, so you have an issue with the results of the Republican Benghazi inquires, the FBI’s email investigation that found no criminality, and the fact that, try as they might, the Republican House and Senate never managed to bring impeachment charges against Obama.

Sure.

Sure.
 
greg0205 said:
Oh, so you have an issue with the results of the Republican Benghazi inquires, the FBI’s email investigation that found no criminality, and the fact that, try as they might, the Republican House and Senate never managed to bring impeachment charges against Obama.

Sure.

Sure.
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I have no issues with any of those things and I don't believe anything will ever come from it. For me it will always be a fun little internet conspiracy theory with no real value to my day to day life.

That's beside the point that I've been making today. It doesn't even matter how corrupt Trump is because the Democrats have Bidden.
 
rietrot said:
I have no issues with any of those things and I don't believe anything will ever come from it. For me it will always be a fun little internet conspiracy theory with no real value to my day to day life.

That's beside the point that I've been making today. It doesn't even matter how corrupt Trump is because the Democrats have Bidden.
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You're going all in on Burisma. You have an unsuited two and seven.

Bold, but not the hand I'd play.
 
greg0205 said:
You're going all in on Burisma. You have an unsuited two and seven.

Bold, but not the hand I'd play.
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Even Burisma is largely irrelevant at this point. I can mention it to point out the hypocrisy of anyone screaming Trump is corrupt. So it has some limited use. But nothing will come from it.

Joe is all I need. I'm going all in on him being completely unelectable. Joe is the pocket A's that I have.

Maybe you'll get lucky in the draw and Trump chokes on a McDonald's hamburger and dies. But I doubt it.
 
rietrot said:
Even Burisma is largely irrelevant at this point. I can mention it to point out the hypocrisy of anyone screaming Trump is corrupt. So it has some limited use. But nothing will come from it.

Joe is all I need. I'm going all in on him being completely unelectable. Joe is the pocket A's that I have.

Maybe you'll get lucky in the draw and Trump chokes on a McDonald's hamburger and dies. But I doubt it.
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We all get to see the river on November 3rd.
 
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