US Election 2020

[greg0205]

which was attended by an estimated 125,000 people—of whom about 100,000 had purchased tickets.

Yep, but I didn't want to dwell on estimates, the hard number was 100 000 tickets sold and that's good enough for me.

Were you there?

 

[buka001]

Look at Sleepy Joe. Not able to stand still, random incoherent moves of his arms.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265285356942839814

 

[rietrot]

Look at Sleepy Joe.

Fake news. There's nothing wrong with Joe.

 

[Whright]

Yep, but I didn't want to dwell on estimates, the hard number was 100 000 tickets sold and that's good enough for me.

Were you there?

No i was not there, i was 8 years old. however my old man was in SA at the time and attended, i remember him talking about it around a get together many years ago.

 

[greg0205]

No i was not there, i was 8 years old. however my old man was in SA at the time and attended, i remember him talking about it around a get together many years ago.

Sixteen for me. It was a really good day.

 

[greg0205]

Oh SLAPP!

WASHINGTON

A Virginia judge overseeing a pair of Rep. Devin Nunes’ lawsuits against news organizations handed the California Republican two setbacks in one week, granting motions by The Washington Post and CNN to move the cases to other jurisdictions.

In both decisions, Judge Robert E. Payne wrote there was “no logical connection” for the congressman from Tulare to sue the news organizations at a federal court in Richmond, Virginia.

Payne moved Nunes’ case against The Washington Post to the District of Columbia, and the CNN lawsuit to the Southern District of New York.

The decision in The Washington Post lawsuit, published to a public database on Tuesday, closely resembles’ Payne’s ruling in the CNN case. Both decisions include warnings to Nunes’ attorney, Steven Biss, advising him to refrain from using “ad hominem” attacks in legal briefs.

In the Post lawsuit, Biss referred to a reporter as a “puppet of the FBI and CIA, employed to selectively leak talking points and classified information to smear targets.” Biss in a court brief called CNN “the mother of all fake news.”

Nunes filed the lawsuit against The Post in March in the U.S. District Court of Eastern Virginia, alleging a Feb. 21 news story describing an intelligence briefing given to members of Congress regarding Russia’s perceived preference for President Donald Trump’s re-election was part of a long-running effort to damage Nunes’ reputation.

Only a few paragraphs in The Post story focus on Nunes, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, saying Trump learned about the briefing from Nunes. The Post cites one anonymous source for that information.

In transferring Nunes’ lawsuit to D.C., Payne wrote he was concerned about “forum shopping,” a term for when attorneys strategically file cases in certain courts because they think they’ll get a more favorable outcome, regardless of whether the court has jurisdiction.

Judge moves Devin Nunes’ Washington Post lawsuit. It’s his second court setback in one week

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

This is quite funny:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265360991182872577

 

[OrbitalDawn]

So why does the government need the police to enforce it?

And did you miss this little chart?

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...rt-covid-19-shutdown-kaiser-health-poll-finds

Given that we are 1 month after the poll was taken:

3% cannot follow guidelines at all
14% Can follow them for less than a month
37% Can follow them for 1-4 months<- We are here.
10% Can follow them for 6 months
34% Can follow them for more than 6 months.


So 1 month after the poll, 17% of people won't be able to follow the restrictions.
4 months after the poll, 54% of people won't be able to follow the restrictions.

So I think I was fairly on point with this. Especially as I think those numbers are quite conservative.

If you selectively ignore the more recent polls that show the majority are concerned restrictions will be lifted too early, sure.

And even in that data you lifted out it clearly shows a vast majority (81%!) can follow it for longer.

That may change obviously, and likely would change fast if anyone was advocating perpetual very stringent lockdowns, but... no one is, and no one's doing it.

Hell, it's one of the few areas where's there's been general bipartisan consensus, with red states that have Dem governors and blue states that have Rep governors broadly being in alignment.

All of which doesn't change that your initial claim here is baseless.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

As an economist I've been at these "V-shaped" recovery forecasts after corona for a while now. It's complete madness. Anyone can save this post for future reference in November. A V-shaped recovery is not on the cards.

The general election scenario that Democrats are dreading

"We are about to see the best economic data we’ve seen in the history of this country," says a top former economic adviser to Obama.

www.politico.com

Republicans' willingness to immiserate tens of millions of people because of their silly ideology is appalling. They tried to sabotage recovery efforts during the GFC and will do it again if Biden wins and they hold the Senate.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I guess this is the best possible response when you have been unmasked as a person that uses the deaths of people due to a virus to push his own partisan idiocy.

Ok Boomer. We look forward to your next feature to describe the amount of humans killed through abortion. Oh wait, you only care of about dead humans if it suits your partisan priggery.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Why does Trump hate Fox News now? I mean they might not be 100% lodged behind him any more but they are for the most part supporting him. And that they're accepting Dem talking points is ridiculous as all they seem to have done to prick his thin skin was allowing those anti Trump ads by some in the GOP.

Because only complete, slave-like devotion is acceptable in the MAGA cult.

This is the Fox News he likes:

Nobody cares, except the Republican sycophants and swathes of his supporters who virtue signal all day long about how Trump is a "mans man".

Why else do they create masculine iconography using Trump? The photoshop of Rocky being a classic example.

This was a good piece on the utterly bizarre notion that Trump fits the stereotype of 'manly', which so many of his supporters seem to cling to.

Donald Trump, the Most Unmanly President

Why don’t the president’s supporters hold him to their own standard of masculinity?

www.theatlantic.com

What is the point of a Republican anti Trump add?
That just undermines democracy.

Posting something was still indicative of some motivation for something.

The fact that you cared enough to post something, is actually something, as opposed to ignoring it outright.

That something says something about you in two ways. Namely a reaction to me posting something or something related to the article.

The degree to which you engaged with it further and the lack of any coherent argument adds weight to such inferences.

You are a one-trick pony and act right on cue, as expected, always.

That's the thing, eh. If the best he can muster in response to anything that he apparently disagrees with is fart noises... not much hope of constructive discussion.

And I mean, this little sequence has been the perfect illustration - you and cerebus asked him repeatedly for substantive answers and all he does is respond with epithets and whining.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Interesting interviews with older folks in Pennsylvania.

Some Pa. seniors are turning on Trump. That could be a problem for his reelection.

Older voters are a key constituency in Pennsylvania, where the population is older than the national average.

www.inquirer.com

 

[Gnarls]

That's the thing, eh. If the best he can muster in response to anything that he apparently disagrees with is fart noises... not much hope of constructive discussion.

And I mean, this little sequence has been the perfect illustration - you and cerebus asked him repeatedly for substantive answers and all he does is respond with epithets and whining.

Ah, the other arbiter of what is considered substantive. Nice how you ignore the vapid attempt at trolling that was Buka's original post but hey Orbital gonna Orbital cause hey everyone has the time to write a substantive treatise breaking down the asinine drivel that Buka posts.

I also see you conveniently ignore Buka's repeated strawman and gaslighting but hey birds of feather gonna bad faith debate together.

/cue quoting me out of context again.

 

[TysonRoux]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ......the Orange Dotard is going to be p!ssssed at Twatter

Twitter has added fact-checking links to Trump's false tweets about voting by mail

Twitter has added a link prompting users to "get the facts about mail-in ballots" to President Trump's tweets pushing conspiracies about voter fraud.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[greg0205]

Some twitter housekeeping:

Joe's updated his profile pic and I believe the young'uns call this trolling.




Second, Jack's fact-checking Donnie's tweets. Sure, he won't take down false murder accusations even 'tho Lori's husband has asked him to, but fact-checking is a start, right?

 

[greg0205]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ......the Orange Dotard is going to be p!ssssed at Twatter

Twitter has added fact-checking links to Trump's false tweets about voting by mail

Twitter has added a link prompting users to "get the facts about mail-in ballots" to President Trump's tweets pushing conspiracies about voter fraud.

www.businessinsider.com

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Love it and you beat me by a minute or two.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Ah, the other arbiter of what is considered substantive. Nice how you ignore the vapid attempt at trolling that was Buka's original post but hey Orbital gonna Orbital cause hey everyone has the time to write a substantive treatise breaking down the asinine drivel that Buka posts.

I also see you conveniently ignore Buka's repeated strawman and gaslighting but hey birds of feather gonna bad faith debate together.

/cue quoting me out of context again.

Your first response was to 'yawn' and then just endlessly calling people snowflakes and trolls (despite supposedly not having time to actually respond with substance). They asked you multiple times what you actually disagreed with and, of course, you ignored that and continued with the whining and the epithets.

What reason does anyone have to believe you're interested in any way in constructive discussion when this is all you do?

 

[RanzB]

 

[OrbitalDawn]

“This Is So Unfair to Me”: Trump Whines About His COVID-19 Victimhood as Campaign Flails

Raging at campaign manager Brad Parscale and Joe Scarborough, Trump attempts a campaign reset. But “Trump can’t pivot to a different strategy,” says an adviser. Because he’s the problem.

www.vanityfair.com

tl;dr:

Trump:

 

[Gnarls]

Your first response was to 'yawn' and then just endlessly calling people snowflakes and trolls (despite supposedly not having time to actually respond with substance). They asked you multiple times what you actually disagreed with and, of course, you ignored that and continued with the whining and the epithets.

What reason does anyone have to believe you're interested in any way in constructive discussion when this is all you do?

Yes, yawn to a vapid trolling attempt. A response that could have been ignored. Weird how you forget that part. And because they asked I should accede? Even if I don't have the time, inclination or capability to respond 'adequately?' Then again Rietrot replied but those two wanted it in my own words. I see you've set yourself up as the arbiter of people's time too.

You also seemed to miss the bit where I said I wasn't interested in said discussion and tried to end it but according to Orbital I ignored them and kept on whining. Why should anyone here believe your sincerity?

Constructive debate my @ss. Buka was spoiling for fight and got a dose of his own meds and now he has a cheerleader to boot!

I wonder if this article speaks about some of Trump's supporters here.

Donald Trump, the Most Unmanly President

Why don’t the president’s supporters hold him to their own standard of masculinity?

www.theatlantic.com