US Election 2020

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cerebus said:
Bernie Sanders is a capitalist. It's not contradictory to believe that a country should have a strong private sector AND solid government services, and you should be able to delineate the roles that government should play in providing socialized services to people, in areas like healthcare, police, schools, public transport, and so on. By definition any service provided by the government is socialist in nature.
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So every Gov in the world is socialist?

Yirre, you okes are bevoked trying every trick in book to socialism look cool.
 
The Free Radical said:
There is no contest IMO

Trump is going to take it with an even wider margin.

With the left going full retard Marxist / Socialist, with policies supporting open borders, sanctuary cities for criminal illegal aliens, bowing to snowflakism, supporting gender fluidity, supporting minority rights to the extreme, wanting to impose higher taxes on the working class, supporting restrictive gun control, supporting fake climate alarmism, shutting down of free speech etc, the majority of god-fearing, right minded working folk will prevail and vote Trump.

The democrats have alienated a huge chunk of the centrist traditional dem voting block who are now either going to shift to the right, or abstain from voting.

The reward for this, above four more years of Trump’s policies if he wins, includes the sheer entertainment of watching his opponents writhe on the floor, ululating, looking for somebody to blame – again. OK, they don’t really writhe on the floor. They sit in chairs around glass tables in Fake News television studios and ululate in political discussions.

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*Shrug*
That is not my reading of it at all.
Trump and his administration is now fully outing himself/itself as a corrupt criminal enterprise. It doesn't take great brains to be able to discern that.
I think Trump is history, along with Trumpism.
 
Eniigma said:
So every Gov in the world is socialist?

Yirre, you okes are bevoked trying every trick in book to socialism look cool.
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They aren’t socialist enough though. Proper socialism means that government makes all your decisions for you and pays all your bills. All you have to do in return for governments benevolence is be 100% compliant.

And no wrong-think. That will be very very bad for you.
 
Aquila ka Hecate said:
*Shrug*
That is not my reading of it at all.
Trump and his administration is now fully outing himself/itself as a corrupt criminal enterprise. It doesn't take great brains to be able to discern that.
I think Trump is history, along with Trumpism.
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But hey, let's make the federal government in charge of all healthcare because it is so corrupt.
 
Government in the Netherlands requires adults pay a flat rate for basic insurance of 100 to 120 euros.

The UK has a 3.8% unemployment rate which accumulates a significant amount of tax for the socialist hospitals.

Despite 2 fairly successful examples ran by business professionals it's still against my principles to have the weight of the unemployed on the employed's shoulders.

Are you guys advocating for free healthcare in the USA or are you suggesting implementing a system like that in a country with a 30% unemployment rate?
 
Moosedrool said:
Government in the Netherlands requires adults pay a flat rate for basic insurance of 100 to 120 euros.

The UK has a 3.8% unemployment rate which accumulates a significant amount of tax for the socialist hospitals.

Despite 2 fairly successful examples ran by business professionals it's still against my principles to have the weight of the unemployed on the employed's shoulders.

Are you guys advocating for free healthcare in the USA or are you suggesting implementing a system like that in a country with a 30% unemployment rate?
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There is such a thing as a natural rate of unemployment.
Welfare in a developed country like the US should only really cover the bottom 5-6% of people.
Everyone else can look after themselves. Countries like the UK are rich enough that the vast majority of people could afford private insurance anyway.
 
buka001 said:
You forgot that healthcare is free in the UK. Its socialised. Thank you and good bye
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"free". Don't you live in the UK and pay national insurance? Also not everything is "free" on the NHS - dental appointments for example or eye tests for working age adults. Also I know people in the UK who have to wait ridiculous long times for serious operations. The glories of socialised medicine.
 
Aquila ka Hecate said:
*Shrug*
That is not my reading of it at all.
Trump and his administration is now fully outing himself/itself as a corrupt criminal enterprise. It doesn't take great brains to be able to discern that.
I think Trump is history, along with Trumpism.
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And in addition to being a criminal mastermind, he is also the Nazi leader of white nationalists, and a Russian asset, oh yes, and a fascist ruler.

I forget. He has dementia as well, he’s incompetent and a moron.
And narcissistic.
 
Pegasus said:
And in addition to being a criminal mastermind, he is also the Nazi leader of white nationalists, and a Russian asset, oh yes, and a fascist ruler.

I forget. He has dementia as well, he’s incompetent and a moron.
And narcissistic.
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Said nothing about "mastermind". How much of a "mastermind" is Zuma? There's your template.
 
CNN is pure Fake News™ propaganda BS campaigning for Wallstreet Pete and against Bernie.
 
Pegasus said:
Ah ok. Everything you don’t like is a not so bright criminal...
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Good gods.
I don't like sushi, but it's a far cry from being a con-artist.
It would be more honest to say simply that I don't like not-so-bright criminals, wouldn't it? Rather than that bizarre reverse stretch.
 
Moosedrool said:
Government in the Netherlands requires adults pay a flat rate for basic insurance of 100 to 120 euros.

The UK has a 3.8% unemployment rate which accumulates a significant amount of tax for the socialist hospitals.

Despite 2 fairly successful examples ran by business professionals it's still against my principles to have the weight of the unemployed on the employed's shoulders.

Are you guys advocating for free healthcare in the USA or are you suggesting implementing a system like that in a country with a 30% unemployment rate?
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The whole point of a single player is that costs go lower for everyone, including the well employed. My father in the US pays something like $10k a year in premiums. M4A would remove that cost and replace it with a much lower cost in the form of a higher tax rate.
 
Techne said:
CNN is pure Fake News™ propaganda BS campaigning for Wallstreet Pete and against Bernie.
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I got through that whole clip easily. Bernie and Cooper, neither f whom I am a fan of, had a civilized and interesting conversation. Both did well.

Where did I miss there?

I don’t know if Bernie was fed the questions beforehand or if it was rehearsed.
It just seemed very smooth.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
You will like this article: https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/12/why-the-yanggang-was-a-good-thing/

Pity, he had some fresh new ideas, more so than anybody else currently.
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Yang made universal basic income the key plank of his campaign. His so-called ‘freedom dividend’ would give $1,000 to every US citizen, no questions asked, every month. The aim was to phase out existing welfare programmes and insulate people from the threat of automation.
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I can see why Yang dropped out, those Dem billionaires won't stand for that - he is more 'radical' than Bernie. :laugh:
 
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