US Election 2020

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Pegasus said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1229738575765352450
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Is he talking about manufacturing jobs? He's right, Trump hasn't brought those back

www.cnn.com

The myth of the manufacturing jobs renaissance

US manufacturing jobs have disappeared. They won't be coming back.
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Those numbers are largely accurate, and US factory activity expanded in January. But the manufacturing industry is hemorrhaging jobs, losing more than 4 million over the past twenty years. The problem is growth is concentrated in a few outlier industries -- pharmaceuticals, computers, semiconductors -- that boost output while employing only a fraction of the workers in traditional factories.

Even with the Trump administration's tariffs and heated rhetoric, that trend is not course-correcting, says Robert Scott, director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy Research at the Economic Policy Institute.

"Frankly, Trump is bad for manufacturing. Since he took office, the deficit in goods is up 15%," according to Scott. A trade deficit occurs when a country buys more products then it sells.
 
The Bern is a strong favourite to win in the hedonistic state of Nevada due to strong Latino support. The Nevada caucus is on Saturday. But will he even crack 30 percent?
 
cerebus said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1229555606081691654
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Qualify unemployment first cause look here.

Missing: Up To 4 Million Workers

The U.S. labor force is the smallest it’s been since the 1970s as a share of the adult population: 62.8 percent today, down from 66 percent in December 2007, when the recession began. If the labor force participation rate had remained unchanged over that time, nearly 8 million more Americans would be in the workforce today. The government defines the “labor force” as everyone over the age of 15 who’s either working (i.e. employed) or actively looking for work (i.e. unemployed).
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Furthermore, see here

Happily for President Trump, the pros agree with him. A recent survey of economists suggest it is President Trump, and not Obama, who should be taking a bow.

The Wall Street Journal asked 68 business, financial and academic economists who was responsible for the strengthening of the economy, and most “suggested Mr. Trump’s election deserves at least some credit” for the upturn.
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Gnarls said:
Qualify unemployment first cause look here.

Missing: Up To 4 Million Workers



Furthermore, see here
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Times US hit 4% quarterly GDP growth under Obama: 4
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Temujin said:
*gasp* There was job creation gdp growth at end of a recession that cost millions of jobs...
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Temujin said:
Dershowitz: I Have Proof Obama Ordered FBI Investigation At Request Of George Soros

www.dailywire.com

Dershowitz: I Have Proof Obama Ordered FBI Investigation At Request Of George Soros

Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz revealed in an interview on Sunday that he has proof that former Democrat President Barack Obama ordered the FBI to investigate someone after far-left billionaire George Soros asked for the investigation.Dershowitz’s remarks come after...
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:whistling:
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I'm sure he will release the evidence on the same day Giuliani will. We've been waiting so long now but I'm sure it will be any day now. Maybe on the same day the Surtie Inheritance sca.... I mean payout will come. Soon ™
 
AlmightyBender said:
I'm sure he will release the evidence on the same day Giuliani will. We've been waiting so long now but I'm sure it will be any day now. Maybe on the same day the Surtie Inheritance sca.... I mean payout will come. Soon ™
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Another one who didn't read the article.
 
Creepy Joe is my next bet for South Carolina. Bulk of Democratic electorate is African-American. Breadline Bernie only got 26 percent here in 2016 and I've yet to see evidence he's making inroads into the African-American vote. Also note he drastically under-performed polling in Iowa and especially New Hampshire.

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Gnarls said:
Another one who didn't read the article.
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“I have some information as well about the Obama administration – which will be disclosed in a lawsuit at some point, but I’m not prepared to disclose it now – about how President Obama personally asked the FBI to investigate somebody on behalf of George Soros, who was a close ally of his.”
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Try again Gnarls
 
“I have some information as well about the Obama administration – which will be disclosed in a lawsuit at some point, but I’m not prepared to disclose it now – about how President Obama personally asked the FBI to investigate somebody on behalf of George Soros, who was a close ally of his.”
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That's pathetic. He should disclose what he has or not say anything at all.
 
lumeer said:
That's pathetic. He should disclose what he has or not say anything at all.
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Na bru is just a harmless game anybody can play! Let's have a go:

"Hey everyone I have evidence that Trump was ordered to increase global warming by the lizard people from in the earth so that they can take over when it gets too hot for humans. I can't share the evidence now because I need it for a future lawsuit."

It's great fun, I can see why Professor "I Kept My Underpants On" is playing this pathetic game.
 
thestaggy said:
Switzerland disagrees.

I'm a proponent of participatory democracy, and that is why I am a proponent of decentralisation/federalism as well. The latter breaks the system down further so it makes direct democracy more practical.

Just because I voted for you 3-years ago doesn't mean you have the green light to go ahead and do what you want now. At all times the electorate should be able to check the government. The electorate should even be allowed to vote on recalling politicians and their own referendums. Pull Jacob Zuma stunts and the people should be able to step in and oust you, not be at the mercy of a government protecting a questionable politician. If the electorate feels that the ruling government has lost the plot and is no longer acting in the best interests of the country, they should be allowed to call for a referendum demanding an early election.
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Not really, though.

It says there they voted 31 one times on 103 federal issues over 10 years.

For perspective - the 115th US Congress (2017-2019) alone enacted 442 laws. This is over and above everything state legislatures are doing. Do you really think it's feasible for the public to be involved in all of those issues?

And in Switzerland they still have representative democracy through their Federal Assembly and Cantonal legislatures.

I do like their mechanism for allowing citizens to force a national vote if they get enough signatures within allowed times.

I don't see Republicans ever going for this, though, given how explicitly they rely on federal mechanisms that make it impossible for majority views to be enacted.

There are too many things which if it were put to a national popular vote they'd lose quite often.

And recall elections are a thing, including in the US.

Recall election - Wikipedia

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thestaggy said:
Of course this works better with a well developed and homogeneous society (which also influences my opinions on immigration and assimilation as well) but that is how I feel democracies should function in an ideal world. But seeing as we don't live in one I still feel that the electorate should have way more power and influence than they do in a representative system.
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Switzerland isn't homogeneous, really. A quarter of its population are foreigners. One of the highest rates of any developed country, and double that of the US.
 
konfab said:
Trump has been a force for good for the economy because he is getting the people who literally have no-idea what they are doing (i.e the government) out of the economy.
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Hahahahahaha. Come now, konfab. Be serious.

Trump is exploding government deficits and overall debt, instituting bogus tariffs (calling Canada and South Korea national security threats) and doling out nearly $30bn in agricultural subsidies.

He plans to add (at least) $5.088 trillion to the debt in his first term, and around $10 trillion if he has a second one.

Here's what he's added to the debt so far.
  • FY 2021 - $1.276 trillion
  • FY 2020 - $1.281 trillion
  • FY 2019 - $1.260 trillion
  • FY 2018 - $1.271 trillion
"Relative to the size of the US economy, Trump's deficits will require more borrowing than fighting and winning the Second World War."

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This all in the "BEST ECONOMY EVER", supposedly.

But yeah, he's totally getting government "out of the economy".

AlmightyBender said:
Try again Gnarls
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The irony being that they've been arguing for how long now that it's a perfectly legitimate thing to do? So what's their problem, really?
 
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