US Election 2020

[cerebus]

Again, read some books and educate yourself on the subject. Fascism != national populism.

I didn’t say it equaled national populism. But almost without exception fascists are national populists. The Venn diagram is highly overlapping.

 

[cerebus]

Because Trump?

Because they haven’t been democrats for 100 years.

Alabama newspaper editor calls on KKK to lynch Democrats

The editor said the Ku Klux Klan should lynch "socialist-communist" Democrats and raid Washington DC.

www.bbc.com

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

You could instead write something like imagine having no culture, nothing unique about you, no cultural history or traditions, nothing worth holding on to, nothing to identify you in a sea of people.

Globalism has not been a resounding success in any case, but elements of the Left and Right push it for different reasons.

Ironically for the Left, if countries go away, there will be less cultural diversity.

There's that fear again - the fear of being less than you thought, of drowning in the sea of All.

 

[buka001]

Because Trump?

No because of Lyndon B Johnson and his Civil Rights Act. Turned the majority of the South away from the Democrats.

 

[SoldierMan]

3 Black Churches Have Burned in 10 Days in a Single Louisiana Parish (Published 2019)

Officials said that they had found “suspicious elements” in each case and that “there is clearly something happening in this community.”

www.nytimes.com

That's messed up.
And if it's the KKK then the people responsible need to be brought to book. Do they know it's the KKK though, or who exactly done it?

 

[Ancalagon]

I didn’t say it equaled national populism. But almost without exception fascists are national populists. The Venn diagram is highly overlapping.

Again, Trump is without doubt a national populist but he is not a fascist.

 

[buka001]

And? Or are you doing the guilty by association schtick again?

No, Pegasus played that game with Hillary and the KKK. So since it is all fair in love and war, we should also acknowledge the relationship the KKK have with Trump.

Care to challenge Pegasus on the guilty by association shtcik he started?

 

[Ancalagon]

There's that fear again - the fear of being less than you thought, of drowning in the sea of All.

I don't see what is wrong with wanting to hold onto your cultural identity.

After all, every single cultural identity with the exception of Western white cultural identity is celebrated.

Gay pride? Great!

Trans pride? Great!

African American pride? Great!

Christian pride, or even worse, American pride? Shame on you you disgusting racist sexist homophobic Nazi.

 

[Pegging]

No, Pegasus played that game with Hillary and the KKK. So since it is all fair in love and war, we should also acknowledge the relationship the KKK have with Trump.

Care to challenge Pegasus on the guilty by association shtcik he started?

You're just saying that Trump is so awesome that the KKK even like him.
I agree.

 

[Gnarls]

No, Pegasus played that game with Hillary and the KKK. So since it is all fair in love and war, we should also acknowledge the relationship the KKK have with Trump.

Care to challenge Pegasus on the guilty by association shtcik he started?

Either way correlation does not equate causation.

I don't see what is wrong with wanting to hold onto your cultural identity.

After all, every single cultural identity with the exception of Western white cultural identity is celebrated.

Gay pride? Great!

Trans pride? Great!

African American pride? Great!

Christian pride, or even worse, American pride? Shame on you you disgusting racist sexist homophobic Nazi.

Just gaslighting again. You don't like this? Well it must be that irrational fear of yours.

 

[cerebus]

Again, Trump is without doubt a national populist but he is not a fascist.

Because why? Look, I’m not sure fascist is the most accurate term to use but I see a lot of Trump’s behavior as highly autocratic. So in lieu of a better term - and I don’t think national populist sufficiently captures what he is - I’m calling him fascist-adjacent.

 

[buka001]

Either way correlation does not equate causation.

I agree, hence my illustration of Pegasus cognitive dissonance on that particular subject.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

I don't see what is wrong with wanting to hold onto your cultural identity.

After all, every single cultural identity with the exception of Western white cultural identity is celebrated.

Gay pride? Great!

Trans pride? Great!

African American pride? Great!

Christian pride, or even worse, American pride? Shame on you you disgusting racist sexist homophobic Nazi.

All Prides are so farking unnecessary.
You shouldn't need to do handsprings in the street to say "look at me! I'm special!"

 

[cerebus]

All Prides are so farking unnecessary.
You shouldn't need to do handsprings in the street to say "look at me! I'm special!"

You don’t think the gay pride or black pride movements were necessary?

 

[buka001]

All Prides are so farking unnecessary.
You shouldn't need to do handsprings in the street to say "look at me! I'm special!"

I see them as an expression of freedom because not so long ago people would have been imprisoned for mentioning the fact that they are gay etc.

I am no fan either, but understand that it means something to people who would have been oppressed for that view 20 years ago.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

You don’t think the gay pride or black pride movements were necessary?

The movements for fair treatment were utterly necessary.
In some cases, rioting was undoubtedly justified - in my opinion.
But, also in my opinion, the horrendous spectacle which the Gay Pride Parade has become is doing the movement harm.

 

[Emjay]

You don’t think the gay pride or black pride movements were necessary?

A pride parade / history month does not equal the movement. You are building a strawman.

The movements for fair treatment were utterly necessary.
In some cases, rioting was undoubtedly justified - in my opinion.
But, also in my opinion, the horrendous spectacle which the Gay Pride Parade has become is doing the movement harm.

Did you see that video of that woman dancing half naked and squirting her breast milk onto people / into their mouths?

 

[cerebus]

A pride parade / history month does not equal the movement. You are building a strawman.

I’m absolutely not building a strawman. Gay pride and black pride were and are a central facet of the equal rights movement.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

I see them as an expression of freedom because not so long ago people would have been imprisoned for mentioning the fact that they are gay etc.

I am no fan either, but understand that it means something to people who would have been oppressed for that view 20 years ago.

I know what you mean.
But I was certainly around 20 years ago - and around gay people, too , quite a lot - and I didn't see much acheived by spectacles.
I saw a lot more being acheived by legislation and reason.
Honestly, people who are scared of teh Gay are much more likely to be persuaded by reason than by spectacle.

 

[Emjay]

I’m absolutely not building a strawman. Gay pride and black pride were and are a central facet of the equal rights movement.

No. The fight for equal rights are central facets to their movements.