US Election 2020

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AlmightyBender said:
Na bru I'm not Xarog, I will honour the bet. Let's just pm I'm November and keep it simple. And I accept the risk if you don't. Either way, it is good fun.

I henceforth rename you: TMYman*
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Its settled then, thank you for the friendly bet :)
 
buka001 said:
Been a while since I was in SA, so sort off forgetting what R100 gets me.

£5 will get me a chocolate, packet of chips and a cooldrink.

Or I can get 3 ready made Microwave meals at Tescos
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You can get a 6 pack of cool, a bug packet of chips and a chocolate in SA for the same.

Edit, your coffee prices in London are enough to break a man
 
buka001 said:
Been a while since I was in SA, so sort off forgetting what R100 gets me.

£5 will get me a chocolate, packet of chips and a cooldrink.

Or I can get 3 ready made Microwave meals at Tescos
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See, that's what I mean.
That five quid really more closely translates into R50, not R100.
 
buka001 said:
Been a while since I was in SA, so sort off forgetting what R100 gets me.

£5 will get me a chocolate, packet of chips and a cooldrink.

Or I can get 3 ready made Microwave meals at Tescos
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Three beers in a pub, or two large cappuccinos from Starbucks, or a Whopper meal with a side of cheese sticks, or a large pizza, or a movie ticket... Chocolate, chips and a cooldrink, no problem but two Woolworths meals would be pushing it 'tho.
 
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AlmightyBender said:
Three Black Labels, maybe, during happy hour. Here in CT even they are often R40+ :crying:
Two craft beers.
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Heineken usually around R35.... Hmmmm.

In the spirit of the current conversation, went to Hudson's in Parkhurst a few weeks ago. They had a special for five Coronas in a bucket for R150... Yep, Corona... Even more hmmmmm.
 
buka001 said:
When its fun to strawman and slur.
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Antifa deserve to be slurred. Bernie bros don't though. Not because their Messiah is a borderline Communist, because only an idiot would think he'd achieve even remotely what he's promised. However, I hope he pushes the US to implement a little more social programs or at least optimise. The US government already spends a fortune on health programs, but their budget seems to get them nowhere near as far as Europeans seem to be able to.

Free NHS-style healthcare should be a thing. It exists in some states where critical procedures get written off because they know the person will never be able to pay.
 
Vorastra said:
Antifa deserve to be slurred. Bernie bros don't though. Not because their Messiah is a borderline Communist, because only an idiot would think he'd achieve even remotely what he's promised. However, I hope he pushes the US to implement a little more social programs or at least optimise. The US government already spends a fortune on health programs, but their budget seems to get them nowhere near as far as Europeans seem to be able to.

Free NHS-style healthcare should be a thing. It exists in some states where critical procedures get written off because they know the person will never be able to pay.
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The one area were I agree with Bernie on is cancelling the student debt. It's at about 1.6 trillion. From what I understand it's government debt so it won't affect private businesses.
 
SoldierMan said:
The one area were I agree with Bernie on is cancelling the student debt. It's at about 1.6 trillion. From what I understand it's government debt so it won't affect private businesses.
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Great Scott!! I think you have just solved all the world's economic problems. All the government has to do is hand out money to people, then cancel the debt. I mean it would only add another $1.6 trillion to the debt. What is that between friends AMIRITE?


If you want to look at student debt, the system needs to be reformed before you can even think of a bailout. Currently the government hands out money to people who have 0 chance of paying it back. Giving a $50 000 loan to someone studying a BA in underwater basket weaving isn't an investment. Giving the same amount of money to a medical student is.

So I would suggest that before you even start bailing out student loans, you tighten up the criteria on how they give loans. For people out of school, you base it on their SAT scores and the degree they are studying. For people in university, you base it on whether they have failed any modules or not. You allow one extra for a degree to give people some leeway (so if it is a 3 year degree, they get 4 years, 4 year degree they get 5). If they need more than 1 year extra to finish their starting degree, no more government money.
 
Gods, Trump is childish. What's with the childish mocking name for everyone vaguely opposed or on the other party. And why is he supporting Biden when that's the person he was working to undermine with that Ukraine furore that got him impeached.
 
konfab said:
Great Scott!! I think you have just solved all the world's economic problems. All the government has to do is hand out money to people, then cancel the debt. I mean it would only add another $1.6 trillion to the debt. What is that between friends AMIRITE?


If you want to look at student debt, the system needs to be reformed before you can even think of a bailout. Currently the government hands out money to people who have 0 chance of paying it back. Giving a $50 000 loan to someone studying a BA in underwater basket weaving isn't an investment. Giving the same amount of money to a medical student is.

So I would suggest that before you even start bailing out student loans, you tighten up the criteria on how they give loans. For people out of school, you base it on their SAT scores and the degree they are studying. For people in university, you base it on whether they have failed any modules or not. You allow one extra for a degree to give people some leeway (so if it is a 3 year degree, they get 4 years, 4 year degree they get 5). If they need more than 1 year extra to finish their starting degree, no more government money.
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Even better, tie the loan to specific professions that will be in demand in 5 years time, thus incentivising supply to meet demand. E.g. for some bizarre reason there is going to be a shortage of archaeologists in 5 years, then pump the loans. But I suspect you are implying that with your post?
 
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