US Election 2020

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buka001 said:
Here are the lists


www.nytimes.com

Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List (Published 2017)

We have catalogued nearly every outright lie the president has told publicly since taking the oath of office.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Took all of 1 minute to get this. All of it is there for anyone to review. Each lie has a source and explanation as to why it is a lie.

So to whitewash the full claim as all 16000+ lies are actually just because of TDS because, he needs a list, without taking the 1 minute it takes to retrieve the list, makes me think he doesn't care and just likes to play running back for his tribe.
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And he misses the point by a country mile.
 
Trump -
anyone who wants a test can get a test.
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A completely harmless lie, what is it called here ..... just talking a bit of kak ?


www.foxnews.com

Coronavirus testing kit shortages, delayed results adding to frustrations

Test kit scarcity isn't the only issue, as results can take days to confirm.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Some more harmless kak -

Mr. Trump characterized the government’s testing aptitude as “amazing” and called the C.D.C.’s test “perfect,” statements that have been roundly disputed by scientists and health officials who have expressed alarm over the speed with which the C.D.C. has tested and over the quality of its tests.
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rietrot said:
You probably don't realise what you have here, so I'll help you a little bit.

Donnie's BFF Mohammed bone saw, and Vlad can both pump oil very cheaply. The US on the other hand have been eating into the market share when OPEC+ slow production and are pumping oil at around $50 p/b

The smokescreen might be Suadi vs Russia. But the reality is many US wells are now underwater.
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Shale suffering is an added bonus for MBS.
 
daveza said:
Really don't know how to respond to that.

It's like saying all politicians are corrupt, accept it and move on.
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So you were born yesterday too? At no point did I say we should be happy with that situation. That's all you.
 
daveza said:
I'm saying you shouldn't be comfortable with that being the norm.

"If you are sick you can still go to work" - that's not just a lie. For some that could be a death sentence.
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"All politicians lie" is the original 'whatabout'... Treat it as such.
 
daveza said:
I'm saying you shouldn't be comfortable with that being the norm.

"If you are sick you can still go to work" - that's not just a lie. For some that could be a death sentence.
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And I never argued as such. Please quantify some?
 
Gnarls said:
And I never argued as such. Please quantify some?
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Well they all lie, Trumps lies just like the rest, yeah maybe his lies are really dangerous....

But if your answering as a neutral that well everyone does it, well that's probably 99% true.
But that's just not something I can accept and move on. And I'm not alone.
 
^Moar strawman

daveza said:
Well they all lie, Trumps lies just like the rest, yeah maybe his lies are really dangerous....

But if your answering as a neutral that well everyone does it, well that's probably 99% true.
But that's just not something I can accept and move on. And I'm not alone.
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So I guess you'd vote for no one then? Seriously, Trump said he was on the cover of Time 15 times when in fact it was 11? So fcuking what?

This is why I find Buka's list retarded.
 
Oh the genius LOL

Fissures widen between White House and health agencies over coronavirus

Fissures between the White House and national health agencies, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, have begun to expand as the coronavirus pandemic spreads to more American states, creating dissonance between President Donald Trump and the professionals tasked with containing the virus further.

The two sides have grown increasingly distrustful of one another, people inside both the CDC and the White House say, as officials on each side question decisions that either appear designed to downplay the growing crisis or to generate further concern.

The cracks are falling along predictable lines. While health officials have sought to present a realistic and cautious picture of the national situation, Trump and his political allies are hoping to relay an altogether different message: that the virus is contained, Americans face little risk, and life should proceed as normal.
 
Gnarls said:
^Moar strawman



So I guess you'd vote for no one then? Seriously, Trump said he was on the cover of Time 15 times when in fact it was 11? So fcuking what?

This is why I find Buka's list retarded.
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Lol.

Another classical post illustrating how I came to understand why ANC and EFF supporters are blind to their leaders corruption. They aren't blind, it is just a case of so fcuking what.

The support and apologism that Trump enjoys is no different to that.
 
konfab said:
Depends what he loves more.
The votes from the places that have fracking and the lobbying of US oil companies, or Saudi Arabia.

If you applied the arguments that they made against China for tariffs, they all apply to OPEC, and OPEC really is an entity that deserves punishment.
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Let us see.

So far on day 1, he seems to be backing the Saudis, in this tweet, while completely forgetting about the US oil industry -

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237024549046288385
 
buka001 said:
Lol.

Another classical post illustrating how I came to understand why ANC and EFF supporters are blind to their leaders corruption. They aren't blind, it is just a case of so fcuking what.

The support and apologism that Trump enjoys is no different to that.
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In other words if you're not as touched on your studio as Buka about Trump misrepresenting the amount of times he's been on Time then you must be as blind as an EFF or ANC supporter wtf that is supposed to mean. I mean the amount of times you're on Time is directly equivalent to your policy stances. Pretzel logic at it's finest.

Just admit that you list is kark. Anyways, enjoy your episode Triglypuff.
 
Gnarls said:
In other words if you're not as touched on your studio as Buka about Trump misrepresenting the amount of times he's been on Time then you must be as blind as an EFF or ANC supporter wtf that is supposed to mean. I mean the amount of times you're on Time is directly equivalent to your policy stances. Pretzel logic at it's finest.

Just admit that you list is kark. Anyways, enjoy your episode Triglypuff.
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You are strawmanning the list of lies to Time magazine covers, while ignoring the thousands of other lies which have affected policy, tariffs, disaster response and so forth.

By strawmanning all his lies down to the same level of a Time Magazine cover lie, it is easy to handwaive away the list and ignore the lies that cause real damage.

Just the same as an ANC supporter chooses not to care about corruption, which leads to further enabling of corruption, the apologism for Trump's big lies leads to more.
 
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