US Iraqi Ally blown to bits

alanf85 said:
Shame you are :confused:. Me and Tubbs usualy avoid each other. I leave others to argue with him.




Ah PC plod is on the beat. So you gonna censor me? Oh wait you're not a mod. Call your lawyer :o




I gonna take a chance and assume you mean me.

Depends if you think beheadings of infidels, genocide, blowing up masses of men, woman and children, torture and death squads are a reflection of Islam then yeah you would think I'm an Islamaphobe.
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lol... dont know how to answer that 1 :p

I admit that its pathetic when ppl try justify all those things.... but i have many muslim friends, and we often got into debates...
they normally try to justify these things... which annoyed me like it does u....
BUT i did realize that they were not extremist or ppl that would ever do that to others....
I wish i knew y they justified it, how they do.... coz to me any violence by ANY1 should be hard to justify.

End of the day.. we know wats right and wats wrong..... but its not best to assume that the ppl who justify violence r extremeist...
I think they r just very misguided and lack facts!

Yes.. USA were dickheads going into iraq....
Yes.. the facts to go to war sucked
Yes.. things alot worse now...

But.. wats happened has happened and now its time they try reconciling etc.
(I still cant work out y Iran r complaining about USA.. as they got rid of their worst enemy.. Sadam.. none-the-less, i think the iranians r worse than usa when it comes to causing ****!
 
Justified = leader says 'hey i want this county wiped off the map' and then want to build nuclear power with 4000 centrafuges when u only need 400 to make power..... then i say its justified to blow the dickheads...
(btw... 3000+ normally used for nukes)

Unjustified = hey there is a sunni, we r ****e's lets kill em!!
Unjustified = lets indiscriminately kill any1
Unjustified = war in iraq
 
theStudent said:
Justified = leader says 'hey i want this county wiped off the map' and then want to build nuclear power with 4000 centrafuges when u only need 400 to make power..... then i say its justified to blow the dickheads...
(btw... 3000+ normally used for nukes)
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Agree

Unjustified = hey there is a sunni, we r ****e's lets kill em!!
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Agree

Unjustified = lets indiscriminately kill any1
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Agree

Unjustified = war in iraq
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Disagree


feo said:
Who's the one defending it now? :confused:
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Obviously I'm not talking about barbaric indiscriminate violence. :rolleyes:

I'm just saying you can't rule out all violence completely.
 
I dont think war was correct in Iraq...
Most simple solution was to assassinate Sadam....
Thats all that was necessary.....

reason: Sadam was a dictator with intolerance to most religions. including divisions within his own religeon! also killled many ppl, because they didnt share the same faith
 
feo said:
Why?
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*sigh*

I've made that clear many times :(. However I'm still waiting for an alternative theory. I asked the question in the last Iraq thread but it seems the posse not surprisingly is avoiding it :rolleyes:


rwenzori said:
But don't ask Alain Coeur de Poulet to join the military to go and commit a bit of violence - he's too sick and might need a tissue!
:D

Hahahahahahahahaha!
:D
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I don't see you resisting the imperialists? Or did you just lay a complaint with your lawyer :o
 
alanf85 said:
*sigh*

I've made that clear many times :(. However I'm still waiting for an alternative theory. I asked the question in the last Iraq thread but it seems the posse not surprisingly is avoiding it :rolleyes:
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Well I don't often read threads like these so I wouldn't know what your theory is. :D Anyway, innocent Iraqis (men, women & children) are being killed, that's enough for me reason to NOT approve the war. Bush probably doesn't even know why he invaded in the first place. :rolleyes:
 
feo said:
Well I don't often read threads like these so I wouldn't know what your theory is. :D Anyway, innocent Iraqis (men, women & children) are being killed, that's enough for me reason to NOT approve the war. Bush probably doesn't even know why he invaded in the first place. :rolleyes:
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Sorry to inform you but 100 000s of innocent Iraqis were being killed before the war by sanctions and Saddam. That would have carried on until the whole regime collapsed in which case there would have been a complete civil war far worse than what we are seeing now.
 
alanf85 said:
Sorry to inform you but 100 000s of innocent Iraqis were being killed before the war by sanctions and Saddam. That would have carried on until the whole regime collapsed in which case there would have been a complete civil war far worse than what we are seeing now.
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Hence a good assassination plan would have been the best solution!
 
alanf85 said:
Sorry to inform you but 100 000s of innocent Iraqis were being killed before the war by sanctions and Saddam. That would have carried on until the whole regime collapsed in which case there would have been a complete civil war far worse than what we are seeing now.
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Nostradamus? :eek:

Saddam's gone now and instead we have Bush stePping in and keeping the violence ticking over. Even the US soldiers are losing their lives for NOTHING.
 
theStudent said:
Hence a good assassination plan would have been the best solution!
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Easier said then done. What do you think would have happened if Saddam had been assassinated?


feo said:
Nostradamus? :eek:

Saddam's gone now and instead we have Bush stePping in and keeping the violence ticking over. Even the US soldiers are losing their lives for NOTHING.
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Perfectly reasonable prediction. Perhaps you could give your thoughts. Maybe Saddam would have had a miraculous transformation into a peaceful democrat? :rolleyes:

Really if the U.S pulled out the Jihadis would just suddenly stop blowing up masses of innocent people. How do you figure that then?
 
alanf85 said:
Perfectly reasonable prediction. Perhaps you could give your thoughts. Maybe Saddam would have had a miraculous transformation into a peaceful democrat? :rolleyes:

Really if the U.S pulled out the Jihadis would just suddenly stop blowing up masses of innocent people. How do you figure that then?
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No, no miraculous transformation. :cool: The situation with the US is too far gone now. I can't say whether their bombing tendencies would dissipate or not if the US were to just leave but I don't see how they can continue doing it if the US leave. Iraq needs help to be rebuilt, sending US soldiers in is not helping so they should leave, bottom line.
 
feo said:
No, no miraculous transformation. :cool: The situation with the US is too far gone now. I can't say whether their bombing tendencies would dissipate or not if the US were to just leave but I don't see how they can continue doing it if the US leave. Iraq needs help to be rebuilt, sending US soldiers in is not helping so they should leave, bottom line.
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As much as I would like to see the US leave...it unfortunately not feasbile.. U have a mob of barbaric animals running riot... killing innocent civilians.. and its a definite that if the US leave there would be civil war :(

Even worse would be that Iran will stick its grubby fingers into Iraq (even more) to make sure that the Sunny population r wiped out...

I cant see there being any solution to this savagery! :(
 
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