US Iraqi Ally blown to bits

No, no miraculous transformation. :cool: The situation with the US is too far gone now. I can't say whether their bombing tendencies would dissipate or not if the US were to just leave but I don't see how they can continue doing it if the US leave. Iraq needs help to be rebuilt, sending US soldiers in is not helping so they should leave, bottom line.

Yes they can. Their objective is to impose an extremist state and to commit genocide. The U.S pulling out would only lead to increase in violence.

The soldiers are helping. They are the only obstacle to the Jihadis and Baathists waging full out war against each other and the populace.

Still I'm interested to hear how you would have dealt with Saddam after the first gulf war and your thoughts on what would have happened if Saddam had stayed in power instead of the 2003 war?
 
Speak into a voice recorder then play it back. That is a chicken in a fire fight :o

Aw, c'mon! How would you know? You've never been NEAR a firefight!! The correct answer is "Cluck!" Clever chickens say something that rhymes with "Cluck!".

Hahahahahahahahaha!
:D:D
 
Still I'm interested to hear how you would have dealt with Saddam after the first gulf war and your thoughts on what would have happened if Saddam had stayed in power instead of the 2003 war?

We're talking about how the situation can be fixed now, post-Saddam. But to answer, I don't really know how I would've dealt with him. Like you told theStudent, anything could've happened if he was assassinted.
 
We're talking about how the situation can be fixed now, post-Saddam. But to answer, I don't really know how I would've dealt with him. Like you told theStudent, anything could've happened if he was assassinted.

Actually if he had been assassinated IMO he would have just been replaced by a lieutenant or god forbid one of his sons. That would mean just more of the same. Another scenario is there could have been a power struggle in which case the whole place would have disintegrated.

The point being that if you critisize current policies you obviously must have at least some idea of a policy you consider better and I'm interested to hear what they may be.

As for rwenzori I think he is tripping on some seriously bad stuff :sick:
 
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The point being that if you critisize current policies you obviously must have at least some idea of a policy you consider better and I'm interested to hear what they may be.

Well I'm just an ordinary guy on the street. I don't have deep insights into the inner workings of Iraq and I'll be honest, I have no clue which policies would benefit the country most right now. But neither does Bush, in his press conferences all I hear is "we've gotta stay the course" twaddle and it's pretty clear he himself doesn't know what his doing.
 
The soldiers are helping. They are the only obstacle to the Jihadis and Baathists waging full out war against each other and the populace.

Good example is the withdrawal of US ground forces from South Vietnam during the early 70s.

Despite massive military aid to the ARVN forces and US air support , all went FUBAR once US ground forces left Vietnam.

The US needs to stay in Iraq and somehow make things better.
 
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Actually if he had been assassinated IMO he would have just been replaced by a lieutenant or god forbid one of his sons. That would mean just more of the same. Another scenario is there could have been a power struggle in which case the whole place would have disintegrated.

The point being that if you critisize current policies you obviously must have at least some idea of a policy you consider better and I'm interested to hear what they may be.

As for rwenzori I think he is tripping on some seriously bad stuff :sick:

I beg to differ slightly. I think if he were assassinated that would instill fear. The next leader would have to tread lightly if he/she does not want the same fate.

Better yet don't assassinate him, shoot him with a high powered rifle in the hip. He would live with that pain for the rest of his life :)
 
Personally, I view the term 'Islamophobia' as flamboyantly idiotic lie.
If the term 'Islamophobia' is used, their should also be terms like Christianityphobia or even Nazismphobia, Aparthiedphobia.
Like homophobia?

My view is that the term, 'Islamophobia', is a bigoted and dishonest term advocating ignorance to legitimate criticism of Islam.
Actually, legitimate criticism of Islam is merely legitimate criticism. Criticism based on the irrational fear that they're going to come kill us all/convert us all would be the latter.

Maybe one day you'll learn to distinguish the two. You'll definitely be doing yourself a favour. Irrational arguments tend to put people off.

Actually if he had been assassinated IMO he would have just been replaced by a lieutenant or god forbid one of his sons. That would mean just more of the same. Another scenario is there could have been a power struggle in which case the whole place would have disintegrated.

The point being that if you critisize current policies you obviously must have at least some idea of a policy you consider better and I'm interested to hear what they may be.

As for rwenzori I think he is tripping on some seriously bad stuff :sick:
So why'd they install him in the first place? There were certainly no illusions about the kind of bastard he was.
 
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