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Odd indeed. Mueller’s indictment mentions other individuals, known and unknown... Maybe he’ll get lucky there. :p
I've never needed anything from Mueller as far as my predictions are concerned. The person you want to be watching to catch the fireworks I anticipate is Inspector General Michael Horowitz.
 
This one's for Xarog...

Here's 45's response to the indictments today.

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Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced that I would run for President. The results of the election were not impacted. The Trump campaign did nothing wrong - no collusion!

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/964594780088033282

And here's Seth Abramson's rebuttal. It's a long Twitter thread, but Seth lays out what an *actual* conspiracy looks like for ya... One that is verifiable with its actual events, real timeline, real people and details that can be used by prosecutors as evidence for indictments.

Enjoy.

http://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/964598749225013248
 
This one's for Xarog...

Here's 45's response to the indictments today.



http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/964594780088033282

And here's Seth Abramson's rebuttal. It's a long Twitter thread, but Seth lays out what an *actual* conspiracy looks like for ya... One that is verifiable with its actual events, real timeline, real people and details that can be used by prosecutors as evidence for indictments.

Enjoy.

http://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/964598749225013248

Trump slays Trump on twitter again.

This one is the real kicker from Alferova Yulya - Advisor to the Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation

I'm sure @realDonaldTrump will be great president! We'll support you from Russia! America needs ambitious leader!

1:26 PM - 22 Jan 2014

NOBODY KNEW!! Except everyone involved in politics, including the Russians.
https://twitter.com/AlferovaYulyaE/status/426103699572678656
 
Also i would like to add, at least he is now acknowledging Russian interference. I suppose we have gone past the point of denial on that , even for D.Tangerine.
 
Also i would like to add, at least he is now acknowledging Russian interference. I suppose we have gone past the point of denial on that , even for D.Tangerine.

Difficult to sing your favourite "Russia is fake news" song when thirteen Russians have been indicted and one yankee (so far) has plead guilty to helping 'em.
 
Also i would like to add, at least he is now acknowledging Russian interference. I suppose we have gone past the point of denial on that , even for D.Tangerine.

Nah, he's grudgingly 'admitted' some stuff before, but then immediately said in public and privately it's no, actually fake news. He flip flops like he does on everything.

The US intel chiefs are unanimous in saying it's happening again for the 2018 midterms, and they also said he's never asked them about it, never asked them to look into it, try to stop it, nothing. There's some more collusion, effectively.

Difficult to sing your favourite "Russia is fake news" song when thirteen Russians have been indicted and one yankee (so far) has plead guilty to helping 'em.

It started as a 'nothingburger, fake news etc.' but it's moved into 'lol, who cares', and the final act will probably be 'we had to do it to stop crooked Hillary!'.

What's quite interesting is that nothing leaked about this, at all. Trump and Trumpets are fooling themselves again by thinking this is over now. It's not close to over, is my bet.

President Trump’s lawyer, John Dowd, told The Daily Beast on Friday that he and his client were pleased with the news that Special Counsel Robert Mueller had brought indictments against 13 Russian nationals accused with interfering in the 2016 election. The criminal complaint, Dowd said, “speaks for itself,” adding that, “I think the special counsel found the culprits. I think he did a good job. I think he did a hell of a job.”

I wonder how quickly his tune is going to change again... :whistle:
 
Jimmy Dore dropping some hardcore bombs

the action starts at around 26m with the big bomb at around 1h01m

[video=youtube_share;G-2_Bc_7Pos]https://youtu.be/G-2_Bc_7Pos[/video]
 
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Jimmy Dore :erm:

I enjoy getting his viewpoint from time to time, although a lot of its nonsense. I often get the feeling hes trying to pander to a certain group of people for financial reasons though.
 
Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted foreign citizens for trying to influence the American public about an election because those citizens did not register as a foreign agent nor record their financial expenditures to the Federal Elections Commission. By that theory, when will Mueller indict Christopher Steele, FusionGPS, PerkinsCoie, the DNC and the Clinton Campaign? Mueller’s indictment against 13 Russian trolls claimed their social media political activity was criminal because: they were foreign citizens; they tried to influence an election; and they neither registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act nor reported their funding to the Federal Elections Commission.

First, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make Steele a criminal: first, he is a foreign citizen; second, he tried to influence an election, which he received payments to do (including from the FBI itself); and third, he neither registered as a foreign agent nor listed his receipts and expenditures to the Federal Election Commission. Also, according to the FBI, along the way, Steele lied…a lot, while the dossier he disseminated contained its own lies based on bought-and-paid for smears from foreign sources reliant on rumors and innuendo.
https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/doe...on-campaign-can-be-indicted-for-chris-steele/
 
Someone obviously didn't actually read the indictment.
How do you figure?

Edit, because OD probably won't answer...

1. The United States of America, through its departments and agencies, regulates the activities of foreign individuals and entities in and affecting the United States in order to prevent, disclose, and counteract improper foreign influence on U.S. elections and on the U.S. political system. U.S. law bans foreign nationals from making certain expenditures or financial disbursements for the purpose of influencing federal elections. U.S. law also bars agents of any foreign entity from engaging in political activities within the United States without first registering with the Attorney General. And U.S. law requires certain foreign nationals seeking entry to the United States to obtain a visa by providing truthful and accurate information to the government. Various federal agencies, including the Federal election Commission, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the U.S. Department of State, are charged with enforcing these laws.
 
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so the fbi accuse russia of something and because its the fbi, it must be true. would they grant their counterpart the same courtesy if it were in reverse?

the "kgb"" accuses america of something and because its the "kgb" it must be true..

just show the proof to russia as they ask. whats the holdup.

would not be surprised if it turns out an american person hired services from a russian company in the end..
 
so the fbi accuse russia of something and because its the fbi, it must be true. would they grant their counterpart the same courtesy if it were in reverse?

the "kgb"" accuses america of something and because its the "kgb" it must be true..

just show the proof to russia as they ask. whats the holdup.

would not be surprised if it turns out an american person hired services from a russian company in the end..

An indictment doesn't really require a large body of evidence, its an alleged list of crimes by those accused and outlines the basis of a trial. Proof is publicly presented at trial, not at indictment stage.
 
Tools of Trump’s Fixer: Payouts, Intimidation and the Tabloids

As accounts of past sexual indiscretions threatened to surface during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, the job of stifling potentially damaging stories fell to his longtime lawyer and all-around fixer, Michael D. Cohen.

To protect his boss at critical junctures in his improbable political rise, the lawyer relied on intimidation tactics, hush money and the nation’s leading tabloid news business, American Media Inc., whose top executives include close Trump allies.
 
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