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O gods.. that was exactly what I was saying. Former administration, which does not exist.

But you said there is no Obama administration to send out photos. There is only a former administration.

Geez, I'm done with the lack of basic intelligence here.

Don't worry about pitbull, he's just drained all his outrage on kneeling NFL players to have any left for immigrant kids.
 
O gods.. that was exactly what I was saying. Former administration, which does not exist.

But you said there is no Obama administration to send out photos. There is only a former administration.

Geez, I'm done with the lack of basic intelligence here.

I rest my case...
 
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Do you guys think we'll have to wait longer for Pitbull's source on the bullsh*t claims below, or Xanon's "Massive indictments are about to be handed down"

No you're wrong. Obama used the same laws to separate kids from parents.



Don't worry about pitbull, he's just drained all his outrage on kneeling NFL players to have any left for immigrant kids.

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lol.

If only the people here put as much effort into South African politics it wouldn't be such a ****hole.
 
And how much effort are you putting in to South African politics?

A lot actually. And got to love that typical South Africuckold answer, similar to the "what about the taxis" when they get caught speeding.
 
Trump Keeps Citing North Korea As A Win, Even As Nothing's Changed

Amid the turmoil over family separation, Trump has tried to change the topic to North Korea's denuclearization and the repatriation of missing US soldiers. Both of which haven't happened.

In the firestorm around family separations at the US–Mexico border, President Donald Trump keeps trying to bring the conversation back to North Korea, demanding credit for his accomplishments at last week’s summit in Singapore that he says are not being recognized.

The problem is that he's touting results that have yet to happen, getting ahead of the Pentagon and leaving military officials to clean up his comments.

In an abrupt change of topic from his televised remarks on immigration at a Cabinet meeting Thursday, Trump praised his “tremendous success in North Korea” at the historic meeting with Kim Jong Un.


“It will be a total denuclearization, which is already starting taking place,” he said, adding that it was beginning "immediately" — contradicting his defense secretary, who was sitting next to him at the same table. Less than 24 hours earlier, Jim Mattis had told reporters at the Pentagon that he had not seen any indication that North Korea had done anything to dismantle its weapons program or move toward denuclearization.

“No, I’m not aware of that,” Mattis had said, adding that “obviously it’s the very front end of the process. The detailed negotiations have not begun ... I wouldn’t expect that at this point.”

On Wednesday night, Trump also brought up the concessions he said he'd exacted from North Korea at a campaign rally in Duluth, Minnesota, declaring that the remains of 200 US service members killed in the Korean War had been repatriated to the US.

“We got back our great fallen heroes, the remains — in fact, today already 200 have been sent back,” Trump announced to the more than 8,000 supporters at the rally and thousands more who watched on television.

Trump’s claim reportedly baffled US officials in South Korea, who could not confirm whether such a transfer had taken place.

Earlier that day, Mattis would say only that discussions about the return of the remains were “ongoing right now” and the Pentagon was “engaged on it,” but said he had no updates.

Of course, for Pitbull and co, the fact that Trump said it makes it of course 100% true :D
 
lol.

If only the people here put as much effort into South African politics it wouldn't be such a ****hole.

Sure, or the effort they put into talking about cat videos, or Apple vs Android debates, or gardening.. what's your point?
 
Trump Keeps Citing North Korea As A Win, Even As Nothing's Changed

Amid the turmoil over family separation, Trump has tried to change the topic to North Korea's denuclearization and the repatriation of missing US soldiers. Both of which haven't happened.



Of course, for Pitbull and co, the fact that Trump said it makes it of course 100% true :D

I don't get it - why does anybody believe a single word that comes out of this ****stain's mouth?
Hasn't he shown you by now who he is?
 
Viral photo of crying girl: Border Patrol agent involved says there's more to the story

The picture of a Honduran girl crying as she and her mother are detained in Texas has grabbed worldwide attention and come to symbolize the intense debate about separating children from their parents. Time magazine put the young girl on this week's cover, but the Border Patrol agent involved in the dramatic scene says the photo might be a little misleading. That agent said the mother and daughter were never separated and are still together.

"We were patrolling the border. It was after 10 o'clock at night," Border Patrol agent Carlos Ruiz told CBS News' David Begnaud. He was the first to encounter Sandra Sanchez and her daughter after they allegedly crossed the Rio Grande River into Texas illegally.

"We asked her to set the kid down in front of her, not away from her, she was right in front of her...So we can properly search the mother," Ruiz said. "So the kid immediately started crying as she set her down. I personally went up to the mother and asked her 'Are you doing OK? Is the kid OK?' and she said, 'Yes. She's tired and thirsty. It's 11 o'clock at night.'"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-patrol-agent-involved-dramatic-photo-girl-crying-at-border-speaks-out/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=53370995
 
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/need-for-immigration-control/563261/

This is a really good article on the immigration control..
It is disgusting and wrong to equate human beings with insects and animals, as Trump so disgracefully does. Illegal immigrants are committing no moral wrong. They are doing what we might do in their place—as we, by defending borders, are doing what they would do if they were in ours. Like so many human institutions, borders are both arbitrary and indispensable. Without them, there are no nations. Without nations, there can be no democracy and no liberalism. John Lennon may imagine that without nations there will be only humanity. More likely, without nations there will only be tribes.

Writing in The Atlantic a year ago, my colleague Peter Beinart remarked on the increasingly unanimous opposition among Democrats to any form of immigration enforcement at all. “An undocumented alien is not a criminal,” Senator Kamala Harris protested last year. That view has been turbocharged over the past week. Here’s how the MSNBC host Chris Hayes described his reaction to a first-person account from a woman who had crossed the border illegally with her child, from whom she had then been forcibly separated:


When managed lawfully and in reasonable numbers, immigration can be a tremendous addition to a society’s dynamism, wealth, and power. But management is indispensable. Legality is indispensable. Immigration control is both conservative and progressive: progressive because it enhances equality and mobility; conservative because it binds societies more cohesively together and strengthens the connection between a society’s past and its future.

It’s not easy to decide what to do about the accelerating surge of illegal immigration from Central America—or about the surges that will soon follow from the rest of the planet if the present surge is not checked. But the decision will surely be better made by means of rational discussion than in response to emotive images. You want to be different from Donald Trump? Fine. Do what he does not do: Think.
 
Trump Keeps Citing North Korea As A Win, Even As Nothing's Changed

Amid the turmoil over family separation, Trump has tried to change the topic to North Korea's denuclearization and the repatriation of missing US soldiers. Both of which haven't happened.



Of course, for Pitbull and co, the fact that Trump said it makes it of course 100% true :D
I wonder if Trump is aware that Mattis said in Wednesday that denuclearisation was not part of the deal and many more negotiations and agreements are needed.
 
Stable genius, and totally not a narcissistic sociopath, feels need to autograph photos of deceased crime victims for their families.

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Trump flips on North Korea, declaring country still an 'extraordinary threat'

Donald Trump has declared that North Korea still poses an “extraordinary threat” to the United States, just days after saying that the country’s nuclear program no longer constituted a danger.

In an executive order on Friday, the president extended for one year the so-called “national emergency” with respect to the nuclear-armed nation, re-authorizing economic restrictions against it.

While expected, the declaration comes just nine days after Trump tweeted: “There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea,” following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore.

Trump will say it's blue, Trumpites will agree. Trump will say it's yellow, Trumpites will agree.

Morons.
 
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