US protests/riots 2020

NarrowBandFtw said:
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And Ted Wheeler don't think there's a problem in his city. He refuses Trump's help and says he'll wait for the rioters to get tired of rioting and go home. He thinks his city is peaceful.

Fun fact: not only is he the mayor but he's also the police commisioner which is scary. Can't believe this guy has so much power. He belongs in jail. It's because of him there's so much violence.
 
wbot said:
And Ted Wheeler don't think there's a problem in his city. He refuses Trump's help and says he'll wait for the rioters to get tired of rioting and go home. He thinks his city is peaceful.

Fun fact: not only is he the mayor but he's also the police commisioner which is scary. Can't believe this guy has so much power. He belongs in jail. It's because of him there's so much violence.
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It's Trump's fault ...
Feck, Trump is busy, he must be working 36x7.
 
Open clashes are days away.

I truly believe Obama and his administration are to blame for this. He openly called police racists to their faces while speaking at an event for those cops killed in Dallas.


Just look at how many people still believe Michael Brown was shot with his hands up.
 
Emjay said:
Open clashes are days away.

I truly believe Obama and his administration are to blame for this. He openly called police racists to their faces while speaking at an event for those cops killed in Dallas.
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If "systematic racism" was such a big problem, why didn't Obama and Joe Biden do anything about it during their 8 year presidency? Why didn't the Democrats do anything about it during all the years that they controlled congress, including while Trump has been president? Why didn't Joe Biden do anything about it during his 47 years of playing politician?

Open clashes have already started by the way. The left is openly murdering patriots who love their country with no remorse.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1299983990351257600
 
Don't worry guys if Biden wins he is gonna magically fix everything. Blm wasn't happy with Obama, blm isn't happy with Trump but I'm sure if Biden wins we'll never hear from blm and antifa ever again
 
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wbot said:
Don't worry guys if Biden wins he is gonna magically fix everything. Blm wasn't happy with Obama, blm isn't happy with Trump but I'm sure if Biden wins we'll never hear from blm and antifa ever again
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That makes zero sense. Tbh. I was a fan of Biden till he bent the knee in this BLM farce. It's all good and well to support a cause, but this cause is going overboard. What started as a demand for equal treatment by the police has degenerated into insistence on not being harmed by police at all. Not being subject to any law in effect. For without the threat of violence a police force is not worth the uniforms they put officers in. That is just the way it is. Antifa and similar factions have completely shanghai'd the whole thing now to push an entirely pro-black (and very much anti-white) agenda.

It's sad, but somebody who can capitulate to manipulation like that cannot be a good leader. Worst thing is that I am no fan of the Republicans either. Not by a long shot. I don't really see any good candidates this time around. But this BLM thing is being pushed too far. They are putting themselves above the law. Equality is all good and well. By any measure a worthy goal. However they seem to want more than equal treatment now.

Black people in the US are a small minority (13%). And they were an even smaller minority in during the previous century. As a minority special care should be taken that they are treated equally, but it would be ludicrous to expect to be treated better. It would be as if white people in SA still wished to rule like in the old days. They are also as much outsiders to American soil as Europeans are. Now they want to be the tail that wags the dog.

They were used as slaves in the past, but even so this narrative that Antifa is spinning that everything in the US was built by them is disingenuous at best. Historic photos abound. Yes black slaves were abundantly used for agricultural work, and elsewhere, but when it comes to infrastructure the majority of workers were white. Mines. Railways. Building construction. Etc... Etc.. If anything after emancipation in the US only did black skilled workers increase due to better schooling and having better skills. It is nothing like it was in SA, where all menial work was done by black people. There simply was not enough of them to be able to do that. Heck. Since emancipation unemployment among US black people has been quite high.
 
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The Trutherizer said:
That makes zero sense. Tbh. I was a fan of Biden till he bent the knee in this BLM farce. It's all good and well to support a cause, but this cause is going overboard. What started as a demand for equal treatment by the police has degenerated into insistence on not being harmed by police at all. Not being subject to any law in effect. For without the threat of violence a police force is not worth the uniforms they put officers in. That is just the way it is. Antifa and similar factions have completely shanghai'd the whole thing now to push an entirely pro-black (and very much anti-white) agenda.

It's sad, but somebody who can capitulate to manipulation like that cannot be a good leader. Worst thing is that I am no fan of the Republicans either. Not by a long shot. I don't really see any good candidates this time around. But this BLM thing is being pushed too far. They are putting themselves above the law. Equality is all good and well. By any measure a worthy goal. However they seem to want more than equal treatment now.

Black people in the US are a small minority (13%). And they were an even smaller minority in during the previous century. As a minority special care should be taken that they are treated equally, but it would be ludicrous to expect to be treated better. It would be as if white people in SA still wished to rule like in the old days. They are also as much outsiders to American soil as Europeans are. Now they want to be the tail that wags the dog.

They were used as slaves in the past, but even so this narrative that Antifa is spinning that everything in the US was built by them is disingenuous at best. Historic photos abound. Yes black slaves were abundantly used for agricultural work, and elsewhere, but when it comes to infrastructure the majority of workers were white. Mines. Railways. Building construction. Etc... Etc.. If anything after emancipation in the US only did black skilled workers increase due to better schooling and having better skills. It is nothing like it was in SA, where all menial work was done by black people. There simply was not enough of them to be able to do that. Heck. Since emancipation unemployment among US black people has been quite high.
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The left are saying all this blm/antifa violence is Trumps fault because it's Trumps's America. They totally ignore the fact that all this really started under Obama. And there's no chance in hell blm/antifa is going to stop if Biden wins. I reckon they will become even more violent in years to come. Only difference is (if Dems do what they're now saying they will do), there will be less police and way more crime.
 
DavidFreeman said:
If "systematic racism" was such a big problem, why didn't Obama and Joe Biden do anything about it during their 8 year presidency? Why didn't the Democrats do anything about it during all the years that they controlled congress, including while Trump has been president? Why didn't Joe Biden do anything about it during his 47 years of playing politician?

Open clashes have already started by the way. The left is openly murdering patriots who love their country with no remorse.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1299983990351257600
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So they're gladly executing people now ..... hope they send in some operators mixed in with the Feds so this type of scum can just be taken out behind a trashcan
 
DavidFreeman said:
The American constitution prevents Trump from sending in feds unless the state requests it and no matter how many times he offers to help, the Democrats refuse.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1299433988600156160
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They're refusing on political grounds and knowing Trump, he'll then accusing them of failing to control the riots and needing him to save them. Which he's already doing. Actually him calling them useless just hardens their heads Pharaoh style.
 
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They're refusing on political grounds and knowing Trump, he'll then accusing them of failing to control the riots and needing him to save them. Which he's already doing. Actually him calling them useless just hardens their heads Pharaoh style.
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Excuse me but which part of that is false and why exactly do you believe he shouldn't be accusing them of failing to control the riots? They have clearly been doing so for months and should be removed from their positions and replaced with someone who can actually do their job.
 
DavidFreeman said:
Excuse me but which part of that is false and why exactly do you believe he shouldn't be accusing them of failing to control the riots? They have clearly been doing so for months and should be removed from their positions and replaced with someone who can actually do their job.
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I didn't say it's false. Just that antagonising them makes them recalcitrant. He's never shown a desire to work with people on the other side of the aisle and it's not that they need fed help to quash the riots they're just pussy footing. If they want to stop them they can at any time.

Any governor who accepts help will be risking their position at the polls. They have no voter support to deal with the rioters.
 
wbot said:
The left are saying all this blm/antifa violence is Trumps fault because it's Trumps's America. They totally ignore the fact that all this really started under Obama. And there's no chance in hell blm/antifa is going to stop if Biden wins. I reckon they will become even more violent in years to come. Only difference is (if Dems do what they're now saying they will do), there will be less police and way more crime.
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Please don't get me wrong. I am no fan of the Republicans. And in a way it is Trump's fault. The faction that boondoggled him into power at least. For every extreme action there will very likely always be an opposite extreme reaction. By and large the dems are more moderate. There is no left in the US political landscape - nothing prominent at least. The left is all civil groups such as Antifa. You must realise that in most countries most US democrat politicians will still be considered right leaning. This is the part that makes their whole political landscape confusing.
Calling the democrats in the US leftists is naive at best. Even Obama was very nearly as right leaning as McCain, and less liberal.

It's rather odd is it not?

In any case. The fault is that they veered too far from good, sensible moderate values. If the Whitehouse stays extreme right leaning as it is now (very likely after these riots sadly), then the US is in for a complete cluster f**k at some point in the future. If the Whitehouse goes more moderate then there's a chance that things will stabilise for better or for worse. If the white house now goes extreme left somehow (for arguably the first time in history - and I'm not talking about Biden here), then I put forth that at some point there will be a civil war in the US within the next few decades.

But the mob knows only to throw the ball back and forth. It doesn't know how to walk the line. And these days politics seems to be a mob sport empired by whoever can fool enough people on social media. Of course in this regard Obama is somewhat to blame. His methods of engaging on social media was considered revolutionary at the time during his campaign. But now we see Trump threatening to close down Twitter and co if they even dare block his endless dry humping of the internet. Something that would be considered laughable, maybe even unthinkable at the turn of the century. Just goes to show... It's not always easy to see what is really good, and what is really bad.
 
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