US protests/riots 2020

DavidFreeman said:
I never said anything about "Q theory", or any of the other questionable beliefs that Q-believers hold. You may be confusing "Q-believers", a more fringe group of conspiracy theorists who take the word of "Q" as gospel and see crazy patterns everywhere, with the overall "QAnon" community, which consists of tens or even hundreds of millions of people around the world.

I would consider the former to be a religion, not unlike today's woke left, who blindly believe a lot of bat$#1t insane nonsense which has no grounding in objective reality.

Fundamentally at it's core, "QAnon" is a community of people who encourage doing extensive research and letting objective facts and observations speak for themselves, instead of blindly believing anything you're told, even if "Q" or "QAnon members" are the ones telling you.

That's at least what I've seen from the limited research I've done on "Q" and the "QAnon" community.
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When my lights went out at eight I thought it was the ten days of darkness, but I did the research and it was loadshedding.

Did your research come to the same conclusion?

Asking for the community.
 
@DavidFreeman

I don't have examples on hand, nor am I even sure what kind of examples you are looking for, but I've seen this sentiment echoed everywhere related to the QAnon community. It seems to be a well understood rule that people who consider themselves "QAnon" live by, and encourage others to do the same.
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daelm said:
so you don't know what they research and what they conclude to be objective fact? you're more a kind of patron of research in general?
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daelm said:
so you don't know what they research and what they conclude to be objective fact? you're more a kind of patron of research in general?
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They research everything. That is the point. They don't believe what dishonest politicians and the dishonest media tells them, and actually do real research, unlike most people. I am a patron of research in general, and acknowledging objective reality, even when the truth is inconvenient.

I don't expect you to agree, or value actual research and objective facts, because if you did, you likely wouldn't be trying to argue about this in the first place. Your attempt to broadly discredit anyone who does actual research, seems really pointless and petty. It's also off topic to this thread, and I have said everything I am going to on the topic.
 
DavidFreeman said:
They research everything. That is the point. They don't believe what dishonest politicians and the dishonest media tells them, and actually do real research, unlike most people. I am a patron of research in general, and acknowledging objective reality, even when the truth is inconvenient.

I don't expect you to agree, or value actual research and objective facts, because if you did, you likely wouldn't be trying to argue about this in the first place. Your attempt to broadly discredit anyone who does actual research, seems really pointless and petty. It's also off topic to this thread, and I have said everything I am going to on the topic.
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asking you what you know about their areas of research and about the focus of their conclusions doesn't constitute an argument, but ok. my questions still stand, though.

also, i'm not sure where you get to this, "your attempt to broadly discredit anyone who does actual research" but research is the large part of my job irl, so I can reassure you on this front.
 
Oh look, yet another violent ring-wing extremist who got media attention storming the Capitol.

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daelm said:
asking you what you know about their areas of research and about the focus of their conclusions doesn't constitute an argument, but ok. my questions still stand, though.

also, i'm not sure where you get to this, "your attempt to broadly discredit anyone who does actual research" but research is the large part of my job irl, so I can reassure you on this front.
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bumpity bump
 
DavidFreeman said:
Oh look, yet another violent ring-wing extremist who got media attention storming the Capitol.

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Maybe there's a simple explanation. Maybe. Maybe he's a common criminal. Or a mole. Or BLM. Or just plain Q. I mean a non-BLM person was once filmed shattering windows close to where BLM people were congregating. Maybe.

/Shrug
 
DavidFreeman said:
Oh look, yet another violent ring-wing extremist who got media attention storming the Capitol.

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Adrian de los Rios you say?

Then who is the Doug Jensen feds in custody, Dave?

www.desmoinesregister.com

READ: Indictment and Statement of Facts against accused U.S. Capitol rioter Doug Jensen

Jensen has been indicted on six charges related to the Jan. 6 insurrection.
www.desmoinesregister.com

nypost.com

Doug Jensen, man seen chasing Capitol Hill cop, charged with federal crimes

An Iowa man, accused of chasing after a Capitol police officer during the deadly pro-Trump riots last week, has been charged with federal crimes, according to court documents. Doug Jensen of Des Mo…
nypost.com nypost.com

But please don't let a 30 second google stop you posting BS memes purporting to be fact, Dave.
 
DavidFreeman said:
Oh look, yet another violent ring-wing extremist who got media attention storming the Capitol.

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Are you sure you aren't a lefty libtard antifa trying to discredit the right yourself?

You're doing a great job of making all right-wingers seem like a bunch of insane basement dwellers. An even better job than the rest of them do.
 
wbot said:
Those are 2 different guys
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It's certainly possible that they just look very similar, and the one in the picture is not the Antifa one. It's also possible he is actually a violent right-wing criminal who supports QAnon.

There are however multiple other possibilities, which seem equally if not more likely.

The media could simply reporting the incorrect name for the person in that photo. It certainly wouldn't be the first time, even for this specific day where people have been reported as having a different name and being on the other side, such as the following example where the harmless guy was initially widely reported as having a different name and being an Antifia member, and his own sister was silenced for correcting the false media narrative:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1346962723830190082

Even if that is Doug Jensen, I'm not convinced he's actually even right-wing, as there are multiple things which seem very strange if you actually pay attention. The media pushed the narrative the man in those photos appears to be Doug Jensen, a "ring-wing criminal". The charged criminal named Doug Jensen went out of his way to make statements which appear to make himself and "QAnon" look bad.

Some of the video footage of him which was pushed by left-wing media is extremely suspicious to anyone paying attention, because it looks completely staged, and both the group of "violent trump supporters" and the guard who is supposed to be "defending the Capitol", appear to be acting [and not very convincingly at that]. I think I actually posted that original footage in this thread on the day the Capitol was stormed.

So it seems far more likely that he was playing a role in one of many very obvious false flags.
 
DavidFreeman said:
Even if that is Doug Jensen, I'm not convinced he's actually even right-wing, as there are multiple things which seem very strange if you actually pay attention. The media pushed the narrative the man in those photos appears to be Doug Jensen, a "ring-wing criminal". The charged criminal named Doug Jensen went out of his way to make statements which appear to make himself and "QAnon" look bad...

So it seems far more likely that he was playing a role in one of many very obvious false flags.
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' “Doug has never lied to me," said Routh, who described himself as a Republican Trump supporter. “He has been a good man his whole life. He is a family man. But he is like the rest of a lot of people that are patriots. We have been being told for the last what seven, eight months that if the Democrats get control we are losing our country. OK. That scares a lot of people." Routh also told the AP that Jensen believed that the person posting as Q was either Trump or someone very close to the president. “I feel like he had a lot of influence from the internet that confused or obscured his views on certain things,” Routh said. “When I talked to him, he thought that maybe this was Trump telling him what to do.” '

~ William Routh, Doug's fvcking brother
 
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daelm said:
' “Doug has never lied to me," said Routh, who described himself as a Republican Trump supporter. “He has been a good man his whole life. He is a family man. But he is like the rest of a lot of people that are patriots. We have been being told for the last what seven, eight months that if the Democrats get control we are losing our country. OK. That scares a lot of people. Routh also told the AP that Jensen believed that the person posting as Q was either Trump or someone very close to the president. “I feel like he had a lot of influence from the internet that confused or obscured his views on certain things,” Routh said. “When I talked to him, he thought that maybe this was Trump telling him what to do.” '

~ William Routh, Doug's fvcking brother
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Yeah, because a family member would never lie to help the dishonest left-wing media push their narratives... Oh wait, that's exactly what Trump's niece did for profit.
 
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