UUnet issues

196.4.79.41
i want to see a ping under under 20 for uunet to be faster like you guys are saying

tinuva:
Look the uunet ISPs never told lies (given a unforseen circumstance on their side doesnt count as a lie in my eyes) vs AYCE who told us "unlimited / uncappped" and what do we get, 30gb cap. From the start they hesitated to give us exact details as to how the service works, now we know and well if people are happy with their service, good for them.

nope they said uncapped adsl.

you can download as much as you want but you will have to put up with slow speeds on consistant basis.

was that in the fine print or left out totally?
 
killadoob said:
196.4.79.41
i want to see a ping under under 20 for uunet to be faster like you guys are saying

tinuva:
Look the uunet ISPs never told lies (given a unforseen circumstance on their side doesnt count as a lie in my eyes) vs AYCE who told us "unlimited / uncappped" and what do we get, 30gb cap. From the start they hesitated to give us exact details as to how the service works, now we know and well if people are happy with their service, good for them.

nope they said uncapped adsl.

you can download as much as you want but you will have to put up with slow speeds on consistant basis.



was that in the fine print or left out totally?
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Killadoob, the ping to BF1942 will be higher because UUNET have to peer to SAIX and then to the server. Anyway, wouldn't you have a 40ms-60ms and uncapped than 30GB and 20ms?

Also, you're right next to SAIX server, according to your ping. Harth might not be as close to the server as you, so you have to take that into account.
 
I'm at gym ATM will ping the servers when I get back.

I see that RPM has removed a qoute from DOTCO's site due to legal threats! This is a first for MyADSL. Yet more evidence of what type of company DOTCO/AYCE are.
 
killadoob said:
i told you guys to go for the 12 month contract with ayce for 480 with 30 gig of info

it may not be uncapped but atleast speeds are as good as ever.

uunet sell uncapped but they forget to tell you that int speeds are not good.

do you think uunet will make money with an uncapped service if everyone is on full throttle?

i dont think so.
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With uunet you cant play WOW atm, With AYCE/SAIX you cant play WOW ever. It is a very stable useless connection, I dont see how that is positive.
 
killadoob said:
hehe thanx i try kinda :)

but harth tell me cause no one else can.
what is the ping like on s.a server with saix on a bf 1942 i get around 17-20
overseas at night around 250-400
in the day i struggle o no wait i dont try in the day :)
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Lol killadoob, Seriously DREAM ON 250-400ms in bf? You are seriously full of S!^# dude.

Those pings your giving is unshaped pings, AYCE is not unshaped.
 
dude thats what i ping on overseas servers
at 1 in the morning of course that right

ayce is shaped like telkom no difference

clipse:
With uunet you cant play WOW atm, With AYCE/SAIX you cant play WOW ever. It is a very stable useless connection, I dont see how that is positive.

what is useless and excuse my ignorance but is what game uses wow?
if it is what im thinking war craft 3 ? why wouldnt you be able to play on saix and why would you with uunet is international better with uunet than saix or do saix block wow?
 
196.4.79.41 <--- you wont be able to ping that server in command prompt, as they block icmp packets to that network...

In game yes you can test it.

Killadoob, I am sorry, you make sense but its a horrible language you speak there. Also I think you have it the wrong way around, right now WoW is unplayable on uunet, yet playable on AYCE(cause its telkom shaped with bigger cap, yet not as good as unshaped telkom accounts).

And if you wanna compare WoW(World of Warcraft) with Warcraft 3, you need to go find out what it is first, yes it goes on on the same story line, but the game is totally different, its a mmorpg instead of a realtime strategy game, and no you cant play it on SAIX servers, as only blizzard host the official servers, which is in US or EU, and the opensource server...well I would rather then not play the game, as its a piece of **** on the illegal opensource servers. Why? Because this game is dependant on the server's content where Warcraft3 and earlier is not...

Killadoob, my suggestion to you is, learn something, find out information or ask before you just go all out and say other people are wrong/dont know what they say/ect.
 
when did i say that?

so if im with ayce i can play WOW and the guys on uunet cant (this is correct because i heard you say it). also unshaped telkom accounts go for 900 for 4 gigs which is a rip off, so i think the way ayce and telkom shape their accounts is good fair for everyone. i can download p2p at almost as fast as 384 dsl can go. webpages load fast, local gaming is awesome so for me ayce is wonderful 30 gig at full throttle as with uunet uncapped but slow download speeds so i wonder if the average user would get to 30 gigs by month end.

tinuva:
Killadoob, I am sorry, you make sense but its a horrible language you speak there

good to see you not so lame as NOONE all he does is look for my bad spelling and language

one last thing is telkom or ayce pings better than uunet international?
 
so if im with ayce i can play WOW and the guys on uunet cant (this is correct because i heard you say it).
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Yes I did say that, although you can rather say that is my personal opinion. Also not, according to me its playable on the AYCE/shaped accounts, its not how I would like it.

also unshaped telkom accounts go for 900 for 4 gigs which is a rip off
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Not entirely true, go to http://www.saol.com they have a unshaped 3gb account for R399/month and they also accept a month-to-month basis contract. They use the telkom backbone as far as I can tell and my WoW experience on it is brilliant so far.

so i think the way ayce and telkom shape their accounts is good fair for everyone. i can download p2p at almost as fast as 384 dsl can go. webpages load fast, local gaming is awesome so for me ayce is wonderful 30 gig at full throttle as with uunet uncapped but slow download speeds so i wonder if the average user would get to 30 gigs by month end.
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Probably not, but your average downloader would easily reach that. I know very few people that dont see the internet as a medium with which you get music/software/movies/tv_episodes ect
 
Probably not, but your average downloader would easily reach that. I know very few people that dont see the internet as a medium with which you get music/software/movies/tv_episodes ect

yup which you get mostly from peer 2 peer programs.

i was downloading from edonkey at 40 kbs yesterday most of the day. how many kbs would i get with uunet on edonkey?

and you cant tell me they get that from http or i must know where to look because most of the warez sites want you to vote for them and to click on their adverts and when youve done all this your download still doesnt work.

so peer to peer the only way to get large amounts of "data"
 
p2p is a technology that kills networks. I remember mayhem lans, since people started using DC++ on the network, pings became 100ms+ on a 100mbit network !!!

But luckily they decided to ban dc++ and it gets packet shaped to 0bytes/s on the managed switches.

I have to say that was a good thing as you can actually go to mayhem lan again and play games without frustration.
 
Updating you guys with regards to UUNet, some of you may have already notice a marked improvement in ping times for games such as World of Warcraft (I know I have - a ping of 379ms is pretty damn good), this is due to new prioritisations that were placed on the UUNet routers today (Friday) for BitTorrent. Since BitTorrent has now been placed at a lower priority we are seeing a good deal less congestion and, well, I think the ping kinda speaks for itself.
 
I would be the first to support lowering torrent priorities in lieu of the more latency sensitive applications. But I am nevertheless pleased to see that I am still getting full speeds on torrents regardless :D
 
BitTorrent

Great now games are more important than downloading bittorrent business applications.
 
Providing latency sensitive application priority should not impact P2P much at all in a properly implemented QoS configuration. Generally latency sensitive applications don't use as much bandwidth as P2P and therefore giving them priority will not make a difference unless the link is totally saturated.

I use P2P a lot but I don't mind if downloads are a few kb/s slower if it means my web/mail/game access is snappy. Most ISP's assign P2P protocols to the BE (Best Effort) QoS setting (meaning bottom of the pile) so best get used to it now.
 
Swazi said:
Great now games are more important than downloading bittorrent business applications.
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Surely people offering business applications also generally offer them by other means such as http and ftp? I have only recently started seeing businesses offer downloads via p2p and they've always been as an option along-side of the more traditional means.
 
I've seen quite a few applications that only had BT trackers hosting them.
 
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