Vaginas Must Be Republican Kryptonite

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Lisa Brown (D-West Bloomfield), a member of the Michigan House, spoke out against a handful of anti-abortion bills being considered by House Republicans on Wednesday.

One of the points she wanted to make was that she has religious beliefs about abortion, too, but she doesn’t pass legislation in favor of those beliefs. Republicans/Christians ought to do the same.

So she said as much on the House floor on Wednesday. You’ll want to watch this video…

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I’m Jewish. I keep kosher in my home. I have two sets of dishes. One for meat and one for dairy, and another two sets of dishes on top of that for Passover. Judaism believes that therapeutic abortions, namely abortions performed in order to preserve the life of the mother are not only permissable but mandatory. The stage of pregnancy does not matter. Wherever there is a question of the life of the mother or that of the unborn child, Jewish law rules in favor of preserving the life of the mother. The status of the fetus as human life does not equal that of the mother. I have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs. Why are you asking me to adopt yours?

And, finally, Mr. Speaker, I’m flattered that you’re all so interested in my vagina, but ‘no’ means ‘no’.
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The Republicans didn’t know what to do. On the one hand, Brown made a perfectly fine argument that they had no response to… but, on the other hand, SHE SAID THE DIRTY “V” WORD!

So they responded by banning her from the House floor today:

“What she said was offensive,” said Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. “It was so offensive, I don’t even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company.”
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Right, how dare she use the proper medical term when talking about abortion…

That wasn’t enough, either. Another female House member, Barb Byrum, tried to introduce an amendment to the abortion regulations bill that would stop men from getting vasectomies unless their life was in danger. Kind of like what the men are doing to the women.

So the Republicans banned her, too.

And then they passed the anti-abortion bill by a vote of 70-39. Every Republican and six Democrats voted in favor of it.

I can’t understand why any women who care about their personal health — and any men who have a heart — would vote for a member of that party. What they’re doing to women because of their deranged religious beliefs is despicable.
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Link.

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Nick333 said:
Ha ha ha. You can't say vagina?
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Having watched the video i think she did step mildly out of line. The issue isn't the word vagina, the issue is that it's a civil discussion in a formal settings and she is throwing out a pointless and rather crass strawman. Nobody is interested in her vagina, the discussion is about abortion.

It's a formal setting which requires a certain level of decorum.
 
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Zyzzyva said:
Having watched the video i think she did step mildly out of line. The issue isn't the word vagina, the issue is that it's a civil discussion in a formal settings and she is throwing out a pointless and rather crass strawman. Nobody is interested in her vagina, the discussion is about abortion.
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Any discussion of a woman's right to abortion is a discussion about her vagina and what she's allowed to do with it and allows to be done to it. So, strawman? Not in anyway shape or form. Crass? Are you five?
 
Nick333 said:
Any discussion of a woman's right to abortion is a discussion about her vagina and what she's allowed to do with it and allows to be done to it. So, strawman? Not in anyway shape or form. Crass? Are you five?
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It's a discussion about unborn children, not vaginas.

It's like saying a discussion about thieving is about hands.
 
Oh get real - the Rep men are frightened to death of the word vagina but they want to regulate everything about it.
 
Zyzzyva said:
It's a discussion about unborn children, not vaginas.

It's like saying a discussion about thieving is about hands.
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Calling a fetus an unborn child is a subjective judgement call. Besides which fetuses and unborn children are both created via a woman's vagina and, naturally, exits a woman's body the same way. How the fcck idiots seperate the topic of abortion from a woman's autonomy is beyond me. "It's not about your body, it's about what's inside it".
 
daveza said:
Oh get real - the Rep men are frightened to death of the word vagina but they want to regulate everything about it.
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Nonsense, it's about decorum, nothing more.

What she done was crassly insinuate they are actually interested in her vagina while loosely throwing in some "rape language" for good measure. Really? Is the best way to have a civil discussion about a complex topic?

And, finally, Mr. Speaker, I’m flattered that you’re all so interested in my vagina, but ‘no’ means ‘no’.
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Zyzzyva said:
Nonsense, it's about decorum, nothing more.
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I totally disagree. She was well within social guide lines there. You are simply throwing around the word, "decorum" and pretending it applies to this situation.
 
ghoti said:
I totally disagree. She was well within social guide lines there. You are simply throwing around the word, "decorum" and pretending it applies to this situation.
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For the record i don't think they should have banned her, that's taking it way too far and is rather idiotic. But i do think she stepped mildly out of line.
 
Vagina, vagina, vagina

There, I said it. Are you now gonna ask for me to be banned????


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Zyzzyva said:
For the record i don't think they should have banned her, that's taking it way too far and is rather idiotic. But i do think she stepped mildly out of line.
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mildly and crassly are antonyms in this context mate. Make up your mind.
 
This is the best response to Rep Lisa Brown? Just dumb.

They should have just pointed out that the abortion question IS NOT tied to religion in such a way that opposition to abortion can be based only on religious premises. In fact, the issues are purely logical and religion can be removed from the discussion to settle the issue.
 
Techne said:
This is the best response to Rep Lisa Brown? Just dumb.

They should have just pointed out that the abortion question IS NOT tied to religion in such a way that opposition to abortion can be based only on religious premises. In fact, the issues are purely logical and religion can be removed from the discussion to settle the issue.
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BS! It all comes down to claiming a fertilised egg cell being a human being and has rights which is a ridiculous assertion. It's like calling a seed a tree. It's the sort of logical leap that one makes when you reject materialism and jump to "Therefore Jesus".
 
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