Where or what fields of industry are these people applying at I wonder?
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Where or what fields of industry are these people applying at I wonder?
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With that logic I now understand fully why our ANC education system is such a mess or huge feck up! Could only have been achieved by the huge idiot Kader Asmal, his legacy is that he stated the rot and ruined our education system since 1998, also anything else he touched, with the brainless idiots called education ministers after him not doing any better!
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DreamKing
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Applied mathematics has a specific field? I thought the entire idea is to train you to be a backroom number crunching support guy, whether it's at an Engineering firm, bank, mining company - etcetera.
LazyLion
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DreamKing
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it is not the problem of the subjects you did. it is the problem of South Africa.
the pool doesn't have fish. ask to catch fish from the pool? BS.
McSack
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I reckon there are a pretty limited number of general-number-cruncher type positions out there (in SA anyway). We've employed a few "mathematicians" as junior programmers and it's worked out pretty well (big4 bank )
Kosmik
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Cracked down on funds. You don't think they should pay for their studies do you? And lets be honest, people with a low pass rate succeeding at distance education?
Which is exactly my complaint. Why are they pushing a study direction that doesn't have enough jobs? I'd hate to sound bitter, because nobody but myself convinced me to study what I did study. I'm just perplexed how the government (and South Africa isn't alone in it) can always be talking about pushing people into science jobs when all the science jobs are already filled, and that includes commercial employment in other capacities.
I haven't read the rest of this thread, but you certainly don't seem to know what you're talking about. It doesn't matter how smart you are, 'earning' a degree takes more than its fair share of hard work...
At this stage of reading the thread, you have a real chip. Left or right shoulder?
McSack
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In all honesty I think the lack of real-life advice as to which skills are sought-after in the current market and what future trends exist is a huge problem
I also think that anyone studying a science degree should have a bit of an entrepreneurial mindset. The idea being, I suppose, that scientists "invent" and inventions result in businesses which create jobs.
Other Pineapple Smurf
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The BSc gets you the interview, your attitude gets you the job.
Mila
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How many universities could the nkandla money have built? At least one IMO.
Haha, no. In seven months I had two interviews and one got me a job, and the other wasn't in my direction. I'm good at interviews.
Other Pineapple Smurf
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7 months and only two interviews. Guess you never heard of Linkedin and Pnet. 90% of my incoming calls are for interviews because I'm listed on both.
There was a kid that worked every day, all day, all the time to get the same degree I have. I being the kid who slept-in, only really came to tutorials, and studied two days in advance. My academic record isn't stellar, but it's good enough to get me into academic programs and scholarships. I'm glad with my course of study though, because mathematical sciences aren't very dependent on studying. If I studied language I would have failed in the first semester. I'm not tooting my own horn, because I messed up quite a bit in some things and burned some bridges.
There is no chip on my shoulder, other than University being far too slow paced and having negatively influenced my personality in retrospect. Where school succeeded, but University did not, was make it compulsory to sit in on lectures. I honestly can't wait for the day that Online Education becomes a big thing, because then kids like me can actually study a degree in a shorter space of time and spent less time getting into bad habits.
The ultimate point was that scores on a report card tells you very little about a candidate. I had an A average in Matric, and that wasn't down to working hard or earning anything. I'm proud of my degrees, but I don't think it kept me up on sleepless nights or anything; it was far more relaxed doing it than I could ever be in the work place, and I'm not alone.
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How many years of experience do you have again? I remember you talking about how you build yourself up to where you are now. That's a lot of experience.