Verified by VISA and Master SecureCode?

cyberarmy

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Anyone tried to activate the above for their Virgin/Discovery/Edgars credit cards?

It appears that the above security features can only be activate for the cards bearing the commercial/retail bank's logo, so if you have a virgin money card which is licensed through ABSA or Discovery card licensed through FNB, you can not use the security features.
 
it depends if the batch no or bin of the card, first bunch of cards are eligible for for V by V or securecode. It might be that Virgin etc does not subscribe to it because when your is V by V or securecode and fraud happens the liability moves from the merchant to the bank.
 
Veroland is correct, they're probably not wanting to shift the liability from the merchants - 1, and 2. maybe their bins are not configured for it on those cards and the acquiring banks are either working on it or have been told not to.

Although I'm pretty sure this will be an enforced standard in years to come anyway.
 
If the credit card isn't forced to have SecureCode or Verified by Visa when you purchase online @ a retailer supporting those security measures, then the issuing bank doesn't force you (or doesn't subscribe to) have those security measures. Best is to phone your issuing bank and find out.
 
I had the experience where I wanted to buy something online and Standardbank has subscribed my MasterCard cards for secure code without my knowledge. It was a issue as I did not have a password at the time, but all in all, I support the idea. If the merchant can't "see" your password some bad apple can't log it.
 
I had the experience where I wanted to buy something online and Standardbank has subscribed my MasterCard cards for secure code without my knowledge. It was a issue as I did not have a password at the time, but all in all, I support the idea. If the merchant can't "see" your password some bad apple can't log it.

It is a BAD idea. These codes shift the blame from the merchant to the customer. Seeing as you can't opt out of them they are like these stupid PIN codes that SA credit card uses now have to enter.
Remember with Verified by Visa or MC SecureCode the blame lies with you. If someone steals your card or your number and buys on your card - they can easily also get your Verified by Visa code if they know your SA ID number and then you have no recourse - you are screwed and you have to pay.

Overseas some banks have pushed these things onto customers with backlash.

More Banking Stupidity: Phished by Visa

Not content with destroying the world’s economies, the banking industry is also bent on ruining us individually, it seems. Take a look at Verified By Visa. Allegedly this protects cardholders – by training them to expect a process in which there’s absolutely no way to know whether you are being phished or not. Even more astonishing is that this is seen as a benefit!

Frame inline displays the VbV authentication page in
the merchant’s main window with the merchant’s
header. Therefore, VbV is seen as a natural part of the
purchase process. It is recommended that the top
frame include the merchant’s standard branding in a
short and concise manner and keep the cardholder
within the same look and feel of the checkout process.

Or, in other words

Please ensure that there is absolutely no way for your customer to know whether we are showing the form or you are. In fact, please train your customer to give their “Verified by Visa” password to anyone who asks for it.

Craziness. But it gets better – obviously not everyone is pre-enrolled in this stupid scheme, so they also allow for enrolment using the same inline flow. Now the phishers have the opportunity to also get information that will allow them to identify themselves to the bank as you. Yes, Visa have provided a very nicely tailored and packaged identity theft scheme. But, best of all, rather like Chip and PIN, they push all blame for their failures on to the customer

Verified by Visa helps protect you from fraudulent claims from cardholders – that they didn’t take part in, or authorise, a payment. Once you are up and running with Verified by Visa, you are no longer liable for chargebacks of this nature.

In other words, if the phisher uses your Verified by Visa password, then it’s going to be your fault – obviously the only way they could know it is if you told them! If you claim it was not you, then you are guilty of fraud; it says so, right there.

http://www.links.org/?p=591

Secondary credit card security systems for online transactions such as Verified by Visa are all about shifting blame rather then curtailing fraud, Cambridge University security researchers argue.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/3d-insecure/

Without VERIFIED by VISA etc, you as a consumer are NOT LIABLE for any transactions made on your credit card. This is not an FNB or ABSA ruling, this is a VISA and MC rule. With these new code things, you as a consumer are screwed.
 
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