Verizon = IS?

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I just phoned WebAfrica for support as I hate telkom proxying. I want a connection without the transparent proxy that telkom implements.

Sarrah at Webafrica support told me that Verizon and IS are one and the same and don't use fibre for international access - it's all via Satellite. They only do IS and SAIX based accouts...

Can anyone else (preferably another ISP) confirm this as it is news to me...
 
I'm not 100% sure to be honest, but I don't think Verizon uses Satellite though, I might be wrong.

Edit: here is a verizon based ISP: www.vanilla.co.za
 
@syndre, IS use satellite for international and offer unshaped. I had verizon for over a year and it was quick and low latency. They used fibre then. Afaik they havent aquired IS or vice versa as webafrica told me.
 
Verizon bought over UUNET a while back, taking over their network, they are most certainly not part of IS, or vice versa.
 
And trust me Verizon,IS and SAIX all have fiber connections! Verizon is nice cause they have unshapped fiber options. They only sell unshapped fiber they don't sell shapped. IS has the semi shapped fiber option where its unshapped during off peak times and weekends. SAIX has shapped and unshapped options and all their accounts are fiber optic! :-)
 
Bradbowlllama said:
@syndre, IS use satellite for international and offer unshaped. I had verizon for over a year and it was quick and low latency. They used fibre then. Afaik they havent aquired IS or vice versa as webafrica told me.
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IS only calls their fibre accounts unshaped AFAIK. I had one of their satellite uncapped ADSL accounts before, it was definitely shaped.
 
Hi guys,

We do offer IS, SAIX and Verizon bandwidth. Unfortunately the information you received by our support staff is incorrect and we will work on rectifying that.

IS uses Satellite for their normal accounts, while their fiber accounts use SAT-3 bandwidth. Verizon (afaik) has always used SAT-3 for their bandwidth and doesn't use sattelite.

As far as actual packages go we only offer IS ADSL and SAIX ADSL, however, on SAIX unshaped accounts you can optionally switch over and use the Verizon network by just changing @wadsl.unshaped in your username to @wadsl.unshaped.v. There is no difference in pricing and is included for free with every unshaped package.

Hope that clears things up.
 
I forgot about that "account" switching from WebAfrica, probably because I haven't used it before. I remember when reading the article about it on myadsl I thought "cool" :p

This works the same on prepaid unshaped as well warichard?
 
warichard said:
Hi guys,

We do offer IS, SAIX and Verizon bandwidth. Unfortunately the information you received by our support staff is incorrect and we will work on rectifying that.

IS uses Satellite for their normal accounts, while their fiber accounts use SAT-3 bandwidth. Verizon (afaik) has always used SAT-3 for their bandwidth and doesn't use sattelite.

As far as actual packages go we only offer IS ADSL and SAIX ADSL, however, on SAIX unshaped accounts you can optionally switch over and use the Verizon network by just changing @wadsl.unshaped in your username to @wadsl.unshaped.v. There is no difference in pricing and is included for free with every unshaped package.

Hope that clears things up.
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Thanks for clearing that up, so can you confirm... SAIX unshaped uses the transparent proxy and Verizon unshaped is not proxied? That's what I believe, just wanted to be sure.
 
SoftDux said:
AFAIK, everyone has a transparent proxy on their networks, but they are all setup a bit different (depends on the proxy admin's knowledge / skills?)
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I thought Verizon addys were directly connected to the net... Telkom's external IP (e.g. what is reported on www.ipchicken.com) is not the same as your IP on your router side.
 
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