Vista under fire

According to computer industry magazine CRN, system builders and value-added resellers have taken to “ripping the much-ballyhooed operating system off desktops and notebooks at a breakneck pace because of the problems that come with moving clients to Vista”. Worse still, CRN discovered in comprehensive laboratory testing that Vista and XP are equally at risk to viruses and exploits and that, overall, Vista brings only marginal security advantages over XP.
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What testing methodology did they use?

Anybody got a link to an online article?
 
I share your sentiments completely Sapphiron, I've been saying the exact same thing for months ;) Lazy devolopers= an OS that sucks.

If you think about it, people cried their little heads off when the pre release Beta came out and stories were floating that Antivirus and Firewall packages won't work in Vista. What a load of rubbish. Then, when the RTM was released, everyone kindly forgot about those rubbish articles, which were posted by reputable companies nonetheless.

I don't care much for PC World or any Computer magazine for that matter, their information is diluted at best, they think they know it all, because they own a brand, but they know JACK! :p
 
Vista rocks on my PC

teraside said:
I share your sentiments completely Sapphiron, I've been saying the exact same thing for months ;) Lazy devolopers= an OS that sucks.
If you think about it, people cried their little heads off when the pre release Beta came out and stories were floating that Antivirus and Firewall packages won't work in Vista. What a load of rubbish. Then, when the RTM was released, everyone kindly forgot about those rubbish articles, which were posted by reputable companies nonetheless.

I don't care much for PC World or any Computer magazine for that matter, their information is diluted at best, they think they know it all, because they own a brand, but they know JACK! :p
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Totally aggree lazy 3rd Party developers :mad::mad:
Things are looking much better on Vista since getting beter Nvidia drivers and new soundcard drivers..
So far all my hardware works nice and the only game I had problems running properly was Half Life 2 that was fixed somewhere between Nvidia driver updates and the new updates for the game..

Another thing....
If you don't have at least a Dual Core CPU and at least 1.5GB Ram.. :D:D
Time 4 a upgrade buddy :D:D

I will allways be glad to run XP at the office, but come on times are a chinging
 
I had vista installed and the only problem with it was that my 3200+ AMD64 wasn't enough :p It worked fine though! Didn't have any problems with it. I'll install it again once I get my C2D E6750 (or E6540, depending on price) :D
 
I've had 2 ppl who purchase brand spanking new laptops with vista pre-installed.

One, hasnt installed anything, out of the box, main system loads then freezez. Had to take it back, havnt heard the conclusion yet.

Second, Has the usual installs, mail, browser, a game or two, but they not so technically oriantated, so the apps they use are minor. I have never had such an UN-enjoyable experiance in my life. Dog slow, unresponsive, chuck it at a wall anyday.

As for the rest, i'm still to hear positive results from the rest of the ppl i know who use (have to) it.

The one dude sums Vista up nicely.

"Vista is the best OS by far, you just have to try and get all your drivers sorted"

I recon for your avarage user, who uses your average software & hardare, it may be "ok", but for a developer like me, So many things stopped working when i dipped a hair in that direction.

Vista is Beutifull, no denying that, but i'd rather get a eye candy screen saver, thn use Vista in development...

Storm
 
I started to work on Vista Business from february 2007 and there is little bugs that really annoys me for example the taskbar clock stops and some other bugs.

As far as 3rd party manufactures not supporting their products on Vista I think one must ask how hard is it to develop vista programs and drivers also remember drivers must get signed by Microsoft and what is the cost involved in doing it.

Regards,
 
I had to install a Vodacom HSDPA device on a users home laptop with Vista Pre-installed. WHAT A BLOODY NIGHTMARE...It must have taken me close to an hour. On XP it's a simple plug and play :p

Anyway other than that I haven't really played around with Vista that much...looking at the users Vista as mentioned above I was totally unimpressed by what everyone calls eye-candy :/ nothing caught my fancy.

Well IMO Microsoft have completely gone right off the ball with the main objectives of an OS. It must be fast, widely supported, be very unintrusive, require as little resources as possible and have the functionality only you as the user requires. I hate clicking on security measures for each step I take!! and 2Gig RAM???!! OMW what the f*** for!! It's not a bloody server for pete's sake
 
For those who are happy with their vista experience, what would you say the main advantages it has over XP are?
 
Direct X 10 :(:(:( why!!!? Why did it have to be implemented on such a k*k OS!!! :p

Nah well I will w8 and see...maybe Im being too rash:)
 
TheBossMan said:
Beter
1) Faster Searching
2) Direct X 10
3) Better support for Dual Core
4) Parental Controls.
5) a built in chess game :D :D :D
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1) How does it compare to Google Desktop?
2) Marketing trick people is busy with a hack and DirectX 9.L will allow one to play DirectX 10 games on XP.
3) How does it have better Dual Core support?
4) *laugh* I first need kids ;)
5) GNU Chess or Free Network Chess Games
 
Vista works for me... but I do have a laptop with HP specific enhancements. Never had a single problem with it in the time I've had my laptop
 
Beter:
1) Faster Searching
2) DirectX 10
3) Better support for Dual Core
4) Support for more than 2GB of RAM (XP detects it, but cant allocate to to standard apps). Me hates pagefiles! (I have 4GB ram) - Combined with above, it gives me more performance than XP.
5) Parental Controls
6) Document preview in explorer
7) Sidebar with apps
8) Microsoft mail (Outlook Express) now has Calenders and RSS
9) Better multidisplay detection (for laptops)
10) more control over battery profiles
11) thumbnail preview of ALT-TAB (Flip 3D is rubbish)
12) better defragging (now scheduled by default)
13) Better Cleartype and Fonts
14) Better organization of User documents (c:/users rather than documents and settings)
15) more resistant to OS degradation (I would break my XP in 3 months, My vista lasts about 6 months)
16) It pisses Mac users off to hear you did not buy a Mac :D
 
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d-_-b said:
1) How does it compare to Google Desktop?
2) Marketing trick people is busy with a hack and DirectX 9.L will allow one to play DirectX 10 games on XP.
3) How does it have better Dual Core support?
4) *laugh* I first need kids ;)
5) GNU Chess or Free Network Chess Games
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1) Google desktop is slow (when you have 1TB of stuff)
2) wait 3 months and we'll talk again.
3) task balancing between cores is far better.
4) never mind kids, what about employees!!!
5) I'm more of the risk player than chess.
 
also, let me remind you all

The same thing happened when XP came out. Nothing worked on it, until it did, end of story
 
I think a lot of the 'antivistas' are missing the point a little along with the 'provistas' (pro-vitas?) not mentioning some of the obvious strengths.

For the antis: Vista IS power hungry because it DOES so much more ...you would expect something that is a lot better to require better hardware - this doesnt seem odd to me at all, its like this with many things (take motor cars and fuel economy for example)- I cant understand why people moan that their XP rated system cant run Vista properly, umm ...duh.
Aero does look good and its fun to work with - I have been using XP for years now and Aero is refreshing and swishy lookin' - its nice, it costs money, umm ...duh.

One of the biggest advances in Vista taht no one has covered completely is the way that you navigate the system, I barely use the mouse to open applications anymore. Hit Winkey (I love saying winkey) start typing and slam return ..its almost like DOS on steroids! Oh and the startmenu no longer cascades clean accross the entire real estate or scrolls to infinity, the icons recycle in the programs list, nice touch. Add to that the breadcrumb in explorer which gives you access not only to the linear directory path going straight back to root but to each subordinate folder tree along said path and its obvious that the way that you navigate in explorer is revolutionised with two powerful features: indexed search and breadcrumb. XP feels prehistoric once youre used to those two features.

Many people moaned and groaned when XP came out 'cos it was power hungry compared to Win98 but apart from freakin luna.msstyle what did you gain back then?
Vista is a far more comprehensive upgrade.
 
Just for funnies sake:

Defnition of operating system:
Operating systems provide a software platform on top of which other programs, called application programs, can run. The application programs must be written to run on top of a particular operating system. Your choice of operating system, therefore, determines to a great extent the applications you can run. For PCs, the most popular operating systems are DOS, OS/2, and Windows, but others are available, such as Linux.
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http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/o/operating_system.html

Now that that's cleared out of the way, we all can agree that there is supposed to be some lean and mean applications on the horizon, why we haven't heard of them yet is strange, but Vista is ready for it, I'm sure ;)
 
Parental control? I can use Dansguardian (free) on Smoothwall (also free) to provide parental control to a whole network of XP PC's... :D


And there's an Ubuntu Christian distribution with Dansguardian preinstalled :D
 
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