Visual Studio 2017 RC

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etienne_marais

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Official launch is Tuesday, has anybody worked on the pre-releases/betas or whatever they are called ?

Of immediate benefit to me would be the 50% faster solution load, Redgate SQL completion, run to click and improved auto-completion.
 
The smaller (installed) footprint will be welcome as well, have a relatively small partition on SSD for OS and programs.
 
I've mucked about with the new language features (C# 7.0 & F# 4.1) -- as for the VS 2017; not at all, but that's probably because I'm really pinning my hopes on the VS macOS beta.
 
[)roi(];19280780 said:
Your alternative?
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DA-LION-619 said:
Have a better IDE?
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I must be honest, there isn't really a decent alternative to VS if you're *serious* about .NET dev, I've had limited experience with Sharp Develop (on Windows) and have used MonoDevelop on Linux. But they aren't really as powerful as VS, particularly the debugger. I just don't like how bloated it is, very heavy on resources, can be slow at times (even on decent machines with SSDs) etc. I think if you're in the industry going with .NET and related technologies (i.e. .NET full stack) then VS is the way to go. Otherwise, smaller, lightweight alternatives could be adequate. Just my opinion :) Hopefully VS 17 can address some of these issues.

EDIT: aside from this, I haven't tried out .NET Core using Visual Studio Code... any experience with this?
 
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DrJohnZoidberg said:
VS is great, I spent a while using XCode on Mac which tortured me every day.
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Xcode's biggest bug bears are code completion, refactoring and documentation, parts that VS really does well.
Still Xcode's Instrumentation tools are IMO far superior to VS.
 
bridgeburner said:
I must be honest, there isn't really a decent alternative to VS if you're *serious* about .NET dev, I've had limited experience with Sharp Develop (on Windows) and have used MonoDevelop on Linux. But they aren't really as powerful as VS, particularly the debugger. I just don't like how bloated it is, very heavy on resources, can be slow at times (even on decent machines with SSDs) etc. I think if you're in the industry going with .NET and related technologies (i.e. .NET full stack) then VS is the way to go. Otherwise, smaller, lightweight alternatives could be adequate. Just my opinion :) Hopefully VS 17 can address some of these issues.
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Uh huh... that the problem with most IDEs, good reason to use a lightweight editors; my favorite is sublime, with a fallback on Vim.
 
_kabal_ said:
Anyone looked at Jetbrain's Rider?
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Nope, is this something new?

As for their IDEs, I've tried to use them countless times; end up stopping because of reliability / performance issues; still their Refactoring, Code completion parts are really amazing.
 
bridgeburner said:
Yeah I use Sublime, and occasionally Atom
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Complains about slow IDE, uses Atom. :crylaugh: Not entirely sure what you're doing but VS runs perfectly fine and fast on my laptop, and the solution has over 200 projects.
 
[)roi(];19281196 said:
Nope, is this something new?

As for their IDEs, I've tried to use them countless times; end up stopping because of reliability / performance issues; still their Refactoring, Code completion parts are really amazing.
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It's just another repackaged Idea app to support Core and Mono.
 
semaphore said:
It's just another repackaged Idea app to support Core and Mono.
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Guess I'll skip then... Really wish they'd just focus on 1, and fix the issues. I certainly convert if it was stable & fast.
 
[)roi(];19281132 said:
Xcode's biggest bug bears are code completion, refactoring and documentation, parts that VS really does well.
Still Xcode's Instrumentation tools are IMO far superior to VS.
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For me it was debugging, trying to step through code it would crash multiple times a day, drove me crazy.
 
[)roi(];19281196 said:
Nope, is this something new?

As for their IDEs, I've tried to use them countless times; end up stopping because of reliability / performance issues; still their Refactoring, Code completion parts are really amazing.
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Interesting. Having originally moved from eclipse Luna to IntelliJ, it was a huge step forward in reliability and performance, and have never found it wanting

Rider seems to be a mix of IntelliJ and resharper. I personally don't have a problem using different VS2015/2017 (maybe reshaper makes my life easier in that regard), but I could see why it might have appeal for new .net developers coming from their ecosystem
 
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